Jump to content

  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):

    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Doctor Doesn't Think I Have It...

Chelle15

Recommended Posts

Chelle15 Apprentice
Chelle15
Posted

Ugh! It was not that I wanted to have a disease, but I wanted to have the ability to control my symptoms instead of it being IBS.

I went to see the GI doctor, he was a very nice man and listened intently to me. He went over the blood tests that my primary doctor did. He said they did a panel of 4, I think. He said, yes two did come back positive, but they are the least two significant positives on the panel. The other two more significant came back negative.

He is going to do the endoscope and colonoscopy. But he believes it is IBS, which I was diagnosed with before.

I felt like crying, I just want an answer to all of my problems and IBS is not a good enough answer for me. Based on what a lot of you have said in my prior posts, I may try a gluten free diet even if the endoscope comes back negative.

Any opinions would be appreciated. Thank you

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


Guest nini
Guest nini
Posted

personal opinion is to stop messing with Dr.s and just try the diet. If it works then viola! you have your answer. As much as the Dr.s like to rely on quantifiable tests, the truth is that the most valid diagnostic tool is how do you respond to the diet. Not, do you have sufficient damage YET to show up on tests... The blood tests and biopsy's are archaic and are only looking for the digestive symptom damage, not looking at any of the neurological symptoms or anything else for that matter. Based on my research even ONE positive in the panel is enough to suspect Celiac and then that can be CONFIRMED with positive dietary response. I was dx'ed with IBS 12 YEARS before I was dx'ed with Celiac. Had I been properly dx'ed back then how different would my life had been? First came the IBS dx, then came the Fibromyalgia dx, then the Infertility and Miscarriage issues, Depression/Anxiety disorder and on and on...

If YOU need a quantifiable test result, then Enterolab has a much better track record than any of the more conventional testing methods.

plantime Contributor
plantime
Posted

Even one positive result is still a positive result. Why do you need a doctor to do more tests? Try the gluten-free diet for 6 weeks, then evaluate how you feel.

ravenwoodglass Mentor
ravenwoodglass
Posted

I am going to strongly agree with the other posters. Get on the diet and see what happens. Relying on the doctors I relied on delayed my diagnosis by many painfull years and resulted in complications both neurological and physical that would never have happened if they had told me to try the diet instead of relying on their imperfect tests. The diet has given me my life, health and sanity back. Trust yourself and how you feel on the diet. IMHO doctors are very reluctant to diagnose us because then we would know how long we had been misdiagnosed for. Do the diet and see how you feel that is the truest test.

Chelle15 Apprentice
Chelle15
Posted
  • Author

Again, thank you for all of your support and time. Your posts have been very helpful. I guess I just want a dx because I feel like everyone will think it is some weird thing I am doing and that it is all in my head. I know I should not care about that, but I just so sick of everyone telling me it's IBS or nothing is wrong. I do believe I will try the gluten free diet. I want to feel better, so much! My family has history and crohns and stuff so I will go forward with the other tests, just in case there is anything else in there.

rinne Apprentice
rinne
Posted

I agree with everyone above, try the diet as a diagnostic tool. See for yourself how you feel.

I am proceeding with tests to rule out other problems but I went gluten free the day I learned about Celiac and that my sister has it too. That was in early May and I am still not okay but I am doing better. I have also had to cut out dairy and nightshades and coffee and sugar....and what I have realized is that to get to the point where I lost 40 pounds, over 5 months, means that I am ill and that it will take time to recover.

My sister was diagnosed with IBS prior to the Celiac diagnosis, she was told that her primary problem was the IBS and that she had a wheat allergy and should avoid it. :angry: Not one word about gluten from the Doctor, she continued for five years to eat gluten and has gotten sicker and sicker. Do I trust Doctors? No.

bklynceliac Apprentice
bklynceliac
Posted

I'm surprised he was so discouraging even with some positive bloods. I had negative blood work and negative biopsies, but have responded extremely well to the diet. I have been told with certainty that I don't have the disease, and received a somewhat perfunctory "maybe it's ibs". I just saw a new doctor yesterday and he said "forgot the other doctors, do what's make you feel better". I was very happy to hear that. He told me I was crazy if I started eating gluten again if i knew it was making me sick. And he's a real doctor, not some hippy dippy herbalist or something. It's seems so obvious, but I really appreciated having a doctor say it.

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


wacky~jackie Rookie
wacky~jackie
Posted
Again, thank you for all of your support and time. Your posts have been very helpful. I guess I just want a dx because I feel like everyone will think it is some weird thing I am doing and that it is all in my head. I know I should not care about that, but I just so sick of everyone telling me it's IBS or nothing is wrong. I do believe I will try the gluten free diet. I want to feel better, so much! My family has history and crohns and stuff so I will go forward with the other tests, just in case there is anything else in there.

I can relate to your wanting a definite dx. I know we shouldn't worry about what others think but I know my family (not my husband & kids - but my in-laws and such) will think I'm just on another crazy diet like Atkins. I think I'll just tell them that I have been diagnosed. How will they know the difference. B)

Nancym Enthusiast
Nancym
Posted

IBS isn't a diagnosis. It's a catch-all for "we don't know".

I suggest, you just go on the gluten-free diet and see how it works. That's how I came by my diagnosis, and I had IBS for years and years. If you want something official looking, get tested by Enterolab.com. It's the only decent test out there (IMHO).

Deb O (UK) Apprentice
Deb O (UK)
Posted
personal opinion is to stop messing with Dr.s and just try the diet. If it works then viola! you have your answer. As much as the Dr.s like to rely on quantifiable tests, the truth is that the most valid diagnostic tool is how do you respond to the diet. Not, do you have sufficient damage YET to show up on tests... The blood tests and biopsy's are archaic and are only looking for the digestive symptom damage, not looking at any of the neurological symptoms or anything else for that matter. Based on my research even ONE positive in the panel is enough to suspect Celiac and then that can be CONFIRMED with positive dietary response. I was dx'ed with IBS 12 YEARS before I was dx'ed with Celiac. Had I been properly dx'ed back then how different would my life had been? First came the IBS dx, then came the Fibromyalgia dx, then the Infertility and Miscarriage issues, Depression/Anxiety disorder and on and on...

If YOU need a quantifiable test result, then Enterolab has a much better track record than any of the more conventional testing methods.

I agree!! I have recently tested positive on 1 antibody and like so many others I've spent time wondering what that means and if I ought to have a biopsy etc. I was dx with IBS about 12 years ago and it was about 20 years ago that my stomach started bloating. I've now got a new doctor who, when I described my symptoms, said straight away that he'd check my blood for celiac (and many other things). On getting the result he referred me to a dietician. I saw him again yesterday to talk with him about a biopsy. He was brilliant - he discussed it WITH me and said it was an option, but like Nini he asked what is the point? He encouraged me to get started on the diet and said that feeling better on a gluten-free diet would be my diagnosis. What with the support I've recieved from this board, and a sensible doctor, I feel I'm on my way to recovery, without yet going gluten-free :D

I'm getting things in place and hope to start gluten-free in a couple of weeks and I can't wait :lol:

Chelle15 Apprentice
Chelle15
Posted
  • Author

Thank you so much for your responses. It really helps. I guess I just always feel like a hypocondriac(sp?), and I feel like everyone else thinks that too. That is the reason for a dx, for my own peace of mind. I LOVE this board.

Thank you , thank you...

jcc Rookie
jcc
Posted
Ugh! It was not that I wanted to have a disease, but I wanted to have the ability to control my symptoms instead of it being IBS.

I went to see the GI doctor, he was a very nice man and listened intently to me. He went over the blood tests that my primary doctor did. He said they did a panel of 4, I think. He said, yes two did come back positive, but they are the least two significant positives on the panel. The other two more significant came back negative.

He is going to do the endoscope and colonoscopy. But he believes it is IBS, which I was diagnosed with before.

I felt like crying, I just want an answer to all of my problems and IBS is not a good enough answer for me. Based on what a lot of you have said in my prior posts, I may try a gluten free diet even if the endoscope comes back negative.

Any opinions would be appreciated. Thank you

Check out the pages on Diagnostic Testing (including Delay of Diagnosis) and Fibromyalgia (there is more "IBS" in there). I agree with others who say that a dietary trial is a wise move. My daughter had only an isolated antigliadin IgG of 30, the weakest of the markers. She had chronic diarrhea for two years and neurological symptoms...and some rashes...everything resolved gluten free.

Open Original Shared Link

Be sure to request copies of your blood results and your biopsy report!

jcc

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):



    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):



  • Recent Activity

    1. xxnonamexx
      - xxnonamexx replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      32

      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

      I made it through the holiday w/o being glutened. I had my brother cook with gluten-free breadcrumbs and I didn't get sick. I baked cookies with gluten-free flour and had dry ingredients for cookies in ziplock bag. I also made gluten cookies as well and guess I did good washing to avoid CC. My wife also went to a french bakery and bought a gluten-free flourless...
    2. xxnonamexx
      - xxnonamexx replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      32

      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

      What do you mean it would not allow any celiac to eat gluten again. I think if this helps cross contamination when eating out at a non dedicated gluten-free restaurant this would be nice not to encounter the pains. But is their a daily enzyme to take to help strengthen the digestive system?
    3. SamAlvi
      - SamAlvi replied to SamAlvi's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      2

      High TTG-IgG and Normal TTG-IgA

      Hi, thank you for the reply. Unfortunately, no other antibody tests were ordered. I am a 32-year-old male. About two months ago, I ate pancakes and then developed severe diarrhea that lasted the entire day. At night, I became unconscious due to fluid loss and was admitted to the ER, where I received IV fluids. Two days later, I ate bread again and once...
    4. trents
      - trents replied to SamAlvi's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      2

      High TTG-IgG and Normal TTG-IgA

      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @SamAlvi! Were there any other antibody tests ordered? Particularly, was there a "total IGA" test ordered to check for IGA deficiency. When people are IGA deficient, celiac panel IGA test scores, such as the TTG-IGA, are likely not valid. If a total IGA test was not ordered, I would request such to be done. Note:...
    5. Scott Adams
      0

      Homemade Gluten-Free Egg Drop Soup

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,844
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748
    donnawebb265
    Newest Member
    donnawebb265
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • xxnonamexx
      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

      By xxnonamexx · Posted

      I made it through the holiday w/o being glutened. I had my brother cook with gluten-free breadcrumbs and I didn't get sick. I baked cookies with gluten-free flour and had dry ingredients for cookies in ziplock bag. I also made gluten cookies as well and guess I did good washing to avoid CC. My wife also went to a french bakery and bought a gluten-free flourless chocolate cake dedicated gluten-free it was out of this world. 
    • xxnonamexx
      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

      By xxnonamexx · Posted

      What do you mean it would not allow any celiac to eat gluten again. I think if this helps cross contamination when eating out at a non dedicated gluten-free restaurant this would be nice not to encounter the pains. But is their a daily enzyme to take to help strengthen the digestive system? 
    • SamAlvi
      High TTG-IgG and Normal TTG-IgA

      By SamAlvi · Posted

      Hi, thank you for the reply. Unfortunately, no other antibody tests were ordered. I am a 32-year-old male. About two months ago, I ate pancakes and then developed severe diarrhea that lasted the entire day. At night, I became unconscious due to fluid loss and was admitted to the ER, where I received IV fluids. Two days later, I ate bread again and once more developed severe diarrhea. I ended up in the ER again and received IV fluids. In my country, Pakistan, doctors are unfortunately not very thorough, so they treated me for a stomach infection. I visited three or four doctors, including a gastroenterologist, but it seemed like they just wanted to keep me on medications and IV fluids. Eventually, I did some digging myself and started connecting the dots. For years, I’ve had excessive gas buildup and frequent loose stools, but I never paid much attention to it. I also cannot easily digest dairy products. Two years ago, I had a CBC test that showed iron deficiency. My doctor told me to eat more meat and said it was nothing serious. However, for the past five years, I’ve also had severe motion sickness, which I never experienced before. Whenever I get on a bus or in a car, I sometimes lose consciousness for 10–20 seconds and wake up sweaty, and occasionally I feel the need to vomit. After more research on the internet, I came across gluten and celiac disease, so I got two related tests (TTG-IgA & TTG IgG) done along with a stool test and another CBC. The stool test showed weakly positive blood. Ever since eating those pancakes and bread, I’ve had a burning sensation in my gut. My doctor reviewed my tests, he told me to completely stop eating gluten and started me on IV fluids for 20 days, saying that I had severe inflammation in my gut. It has now been two months since I quit gluten, and I’m still not sure whether this is celiac disease or gluten intolerance. I don’t really trust doctors in Pakistan, so I thought I might get some help here.
    • trents
      High TTG-IgG and Normal TTG-IgA

      By trents · Posted

      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @SamAlvi! Were there any other antibody tests ordered? Particularly, was there a "total IGA" test ordered to check for IGA deficiency. When people are IGA deficient, celiac panel IGA test scores, such as the TTG-IGA, are likely not valid. If a total IGA test was not ordered, I would request such to be done. Note: "Total IGA" goes by other names as well. I will include a primer on celiac disease antibody testing which does a good job in covering the nomenclature variations connected with the various tests. Elevated IGG scores can certainly indicate celiac disease but they are more likely than elevated IGA tests to be caused by something else.  
    • GlorietaKaro
      Am I nuts?

      By GlorietaKaro · Posted

      Thank you— yes, valid and essential— The issue either doctors is that every one I have tried to talk to about this has essentially rolled their eyes and dismissed me as a hypochondriac, which gets discouraging. I believe a diagnosis would help me to be taken seriously by doctors as well as being validating, but can carry on without it.    There are many, probably most people in my area of my age and gender, who avoid gluten, but many just avoid it casually— eating the occasional plate of wheat pasta or a delicious-looking dessert, or baking cookies with wheat flour for gatherings.  That is not an option for me. I don’t eat other people’s cooking or go to restaurants that do not have strict cross- contamination procedures. It can be boring and lonely, and people do look at me as if I am being a bit dramatic but weeks of symptoms after a single small exposure has taught me to respect my experience.    Thank you very much for your response— sometimes I just need to hear that I am not crazy—
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.