Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Chicken Salad


ekdumas19

Recommended Posts

ekdumas19 Apprentice

Hi everyone

So I think I am on my second glutening of the week here, and it is sooo frustrating, because I know its my fault for not being extra careful but I am just tired of eating with fear.

So yesterday I was really craving chicken salad so got some from my local Coop. Now sometimes chicken salad has given me some problems in the past--but for some reason I decided to throw caution to the wind. Does anyone know if deli's or salad bars add anything to their chicken salads that would make me have such a reaction. This time it was practically immediate but sadly the damage was already done. I am pretty sure it was gluten cuz I had brain fog, stomach cramps and then the Big D this AM. But chicken salad?? I guess it could be cross contamination. Obviously I should have cut out deli's a long time ago--but its hard when sometimes that's your only option!!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



CarlaB Enthusiast

I don't buy prepared foods from delis, unless I know their procedures ... like at our local health food store that carries gluten-free items and even gluten-free sandwiches at their deli. Beyond that, I don't trust that crumbs aren't in my food.

I learned this the hard way, too. Right now I only eat what I prepare, and my gluten problems are gone! My body still needs to recover from the years of stress from eating gluten, but no more gluten reactions. When I feel better, I will take chances by eating out ocassionally, but while I'm still sick, I'm not eating anything I didn't make.

happygirl Collaborator

Did you read the ingredients?

If you don't know 100% what is in something AND how it was prepared, you have every reason to eat in fear....that is scary to me!

When in doubt, go without. I know it is tough and it gets tiring. And boring. And frustrating. And all those other conflicting emotions. But your fear WILL go away when you are truly eating 100% gluten-free all the time.

I'm sorry you are sick...I hope you feel better!

gfp Enthusiast
Did you read the ingredients?

If you don't know 100% what is in something AND how it was prepared, you have every reason to eat in fear....that is scary to me!

When in doubt, go without. I know it is tough and it gets tiring. And boring. And frustrating. And all those other conflicting emotions. But your fear WILL go away when you are truly eating 100% gluten-free all the time.

I'm sorry you are sick...I hope you feel better!

I gotta agree.....

its pretty sad it was a chicken sald you could have made yourself but we all make mistakes and we learn from them.

Hope you start picking up soon.... look on this as a learning experience not in a negative way

Guhlia Rising Star

Lots of "salads" have bread crumbs in them to enhance the flavor.

mythreesuns Contributor
Does anyone know if deli's or salad bars add anything to their chicken salads that would make me have such a reaction.

Salad bar!? I never trust food out in the open like that. Any spoon from any other food could have been put in there, and you'd have no way of knowing.

I stay FAAARRRR away from salad bars!

loraleena Contributor

The mayonaise probably had grain vinegar in it. This is common.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



CarlaB Enthusiast
The mayonaise probably had grain vinegar in it. This is common.

Distilled vinegar is okay, the distillation removes the gluten. If the label said just plain vingegar, then it was apple cider vinegar by law.

Vinegars that are not okay are flavored vinegars or malt vinegars.

IrishKelly Contributor

What kinds of vinegars are not okay? What are some examples of flavored vinegars or malt vinegars?

Distilled vinegar is okay, the distillation removes the gluten. If the label said just plain vingegar, then it was apple cider vinegar by law.

Vinegars that are not okay are flavored vinegars or malt vinegars.

cgilsing Enthusiast

I know they say distilled vinegar and alcohol are supposed to be gluten free, but I swear I get sick any time I eat/drink them. I'd stay away! But then I get sick from McDonald's fries too (which are supposed to be ok)...so maybe it's just me :rolleyes:

on the chicken salad - I don't know where they got their chicken, but I believe some brands of canned chicken (often used in chicken salad) are not gluten-free

TinkerbellSwt Collaborator

As was mentioned in another post.. my experiences with a salad bar is asking for trouble. I wouldnt trust anything on it. I have thrown caution into the wind and took some stuff from a Whole Foods salad/food bar. I got lucky and never have gotten sick. I only have done it twice and each time I know I am asking for trouble.

And again, the breadcrumbs subject. I know for a fact that a lot of places put breadcrumbs in their salads to make them taste better and to have them last longer. My mother asked in a supermarket if their tuna salad was ok.. the person behind the counter immediately said.. no way! That the salads at this particular market have breadcrumbs in them.

So, I hope you feel better. Just chalk it up as a learning experience. We all had them in the beginning, heck I still do!!

IrishKelly Contributor

Sometimes McDonalds fries can make us sick if they fried nuggets or fish in the same oil as the fries...and you also never know how well they cleaned the fryers before reusing them for the next day, so there can still be traces of gluten in them that way too. If i want fries i use my "fry daddy" at home with my own store bought frozen bag of shoestring fries and oil, and it literally only takes 5 minutes and tastes just as good :)

I know they say distilled vinegar and alcohol are supposed to be gluten free, but I swear I get sick any time I eat/drink them. I'd stay away! But then I get sick from McDonald's fries too (which are supposed to be ok)...so maybe it's just me :rolleyes:

on the chicken salad - I don't know where they got their chicken, but I believe some brands of canned chicken (often used in chicken salad) are not gluten-free

Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular

Most supermarkets make their chicken salads from leftover rotisserie chickens. Sam's Club ROtiesserie chickens (I believe) are gluten-free, but GIant Eagle (my local supermarket) uses soy sauce (with wheat) to marinate their rotisserie chickens before rotisserie-ing them.

That is a likely source of your glutening.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - catnapt replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      8

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

    2. - knitty kitty replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      8

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

    3. - knitty kitty replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      49

      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

    4. - catnapt replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      8

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

    5. - catnapt replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      8

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,368
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Klairep
    Newest Member
    Klairep
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • catnapt
      If lectins were my problem, I would react to wheat germ (the highest source of wheat lectins) and beans. I don't. I only react to bread and pasta, which are the highest sources of gluten. Therefore, my issue is wheat-specific (Gluten/ATIs), not a general lectin issue.   I have eaten a supposedly high lectin diet (I say supposedly because lectin content in these foods is greatly reduced by proper cooking and I eat very few of those foods raw, and even then, rarely!!) for years. My health has improved greatly on my whole foods plant forward diet. I have asked all my drs and a registered dietician about my diet, asked if eating such a high amnt of fiber might interfere with the digestion of any other nutrients and the answer has always been NO.     while doing the gluten challenge I did not eat ANY wheat germ (since it doesn't have hardly any gluten, and I was too sick from the bread and pasta to want to eat much anyway) I will NOT put that poison in my body again. That was a horrific experience and if this is what most celiac patients have to deal with, I am very sorry for them I don't care if I have celiac or NCGS I won't intentionally cause myself that much pain and suffering it's not worth it.  
    • knitty kitty
      @catnapt,  Wheat germ contains high amounts of lectins which are really hard to digest and can be irritating to the digestive tract.  They can stimulate IgG antibody production as your blood test shows.   Even beans have lectins.  You've simply eaten too many lectins and irritated your digestive tract.   You may want to allow your digestive tract to rest for a week, then start on gluten in "normal" food, not in concentrated vital wheat gluten. This explains it well: Lectins, agglutinins, and their roles in autoimmune reactivities https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25599185/
    • knitty kitty
      I take Now B-1 (100 mg) Thiamine Hydrochloride, and Amazing Formulas L-Tryptophan (1000 mg).   Both are gluten free and free of other allergens.  I've taken them for a long time and haven't had a problem with them. I take Vitamin A from BioTech called "A-25".  It's gluten and allergen free and made in the USA.  It's a powder form of Vitamin A.  I was having trouble digesting fats at one point, but found I tolerated the powder form much better and have stuck with it since.   Tryptophan and Vitamin A help heal the intestines as well as improves skin health.  I get Dermatitis Herpetiformis and eczema flairs when my stomach is upset.  So I'm healing the outside as well as the inside.   I take one 1000 mg Tryptophan before bedtime.   With the Thiamine HCl, take 100 mg to start.  If you don't notice anything, three hours later take another. You can keep increasing your dose in this manner until you do notice improvement.  Remember not to take it in the evening so it won't keep you too energized to sleep. When I first started Thiamine HCl, taking 500 mg to 1000 mg to start was recommended.  If you've been thiamine insufficient for a while, you do notice a big difference.  It's like the start of a NASCAR race: Zoom, Zoom, turn it up!   This scared or made some people uncomfortable, but it's just your body beginning to function properly, like putting new spark plugs in your engine.  I took 1000 mg all at once without food.  It kicked in beautifully, but I got a tummy ache, so take with food.  I added in Thiamine TTFD and Benfotiamine weeks later and felt like I was Formula One racing.  So cool.  You may feel worse for a couple days as your body adjusts to having sufficient thiamine.  Feels sort of like you haven't cranked your engine for a while and it backfires and sputters, but it will settle down and start purring soon enough.  Adjust your dose to what feels right for you, increasing your dose as long as you feel improvement.  You can reach a plateau, so stay there for several days, then try bumping it up again.  If no more improvements happen, you can stay at the plateau amount and experiment with increasing your Thiamine TTFD.  It's like being your own lab rat.  LoL Yes, take one Benfotiamine at breakfast and one at lunch.  Take the B Complex at breakfast. Take the TTFD at breakfast and lunch as well.  I like to take the vitamins at the beginning of meals and the NeuroMag at the end of meals.   You may want to add in some zinc.  I take Thorne Zinc 30 mg at breakfast at the beginning of the meal.   Are you getting sufficient Omega Threes?  Our brains are made up mostly of fat.  Flaxseed oil supplements, sunflower seed oil supplements (or eat the seeds themselves) can improve that.  Cooking with extra virgin olive oil, avocado oil, or coconut oil is also helpful.   @Wheatwacked likes phosphotidyl choline supplements for his Omega Threes.  He's also had dramatic health improvement by supplementing thiamine.  You're doing great!  Thank you for sharing your journey with us.  This path will smooth out.  Keep going!  
    • catnapt
      good luck! vital wheat gluten made me violently ill. I will touch the stuff ever again.  
    • catnapt
      I wouldn't consider this lucky. I can NOT tolerate the symptoms. And I googled it and I was not even getting 10 grams of gluten per day and I was extremely ill. They'd have to put me in the hospital. I'm not kidding.   I will have my first appt with a GI dr on March 4th   I will not eat gluten again - at least not on purpose   they are going to have to come up with a test that doesn't require it. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.