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Gluten-free Gourmet Recipe Help

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mmaccartney Explorer
mmaccartney
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Book: The Gluten-Free Gourmet - Revised

Author: Betty Hagman

p. 292 - Creamed Soup Base

1 cup dry milk powder or nondairy substitute

Recommends using powdered baby formula (Isomil)...?

Has anyone used Isomil for this? Are there other alternatives for non-dairy that anyone has tried with success?

3 tablespoons gluten-free Powdered soup base (chicken or vegetable)

Any recommendations on products to use as a powdered soup base? I have never heard nor seen a powdered soup base, let alone a gluten-free and dairy free one!!!

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I have no idea about the non-dairy issue, but maybe powdered soup base is a confusing way to say powdered chicken or veg boullion. You know, like McCormicks cubes for soup stock? That would be my guess. Of course we can have dairy, so I don't know if those are dairy free.

Does she have suggestions for substitutions in the back of the book, or where to buy these ingredients?

AmyTopolski Apprentice
AmyTopolski
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Has anyone used Isomil for this? Are there other alternatives for non-dairy that anyone has tried with success?

Hi,

I am not sure on the soup base, but when are dairy free here. We usually use Coffee Mate non-dairy creamer to replace milk powder. Hope I've been some help.

Amy

Katydid Apprentice
Katydid
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:rolleyes:

I use Watkins Products chicken and beef flavored soup/broth powders for this. Watkins responded to my inquiry email stating that these products are definitely gluten free. I really like them and my very, very sensitive celiac husband gets along fine when I use them.

As for baby formula, I once was out of powdered milk, but had a grandbaby's formula in the cupboard and used it instead. It worked just fine; and if I remember correctly it was Isomil.

Hope this helps.

Kay

mmaccartney Explorer
mmaccartney
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Thank you for the suggestions. I'll try the Isomil, and I think I know where to find powdered soymilk....

The chicken/vegetable powdered soup base still eludes me though. The Watkins brand beef base is OK, but the chicken has milk in it so that's out... <_<

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Bethrenee Newbie
Bethrenee
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I don't know if this helps any, but I'm trying to make the same recipe, and wondering what to use for the powdered soup base... I did a search online and your question came up! I also found the following paragraph...

"Soup base

This is a product that has been used for years by professional chefs, and only recently available at regular grocery stores in small enough quantities to be practical for the average home cook. This isn

Jestgar Rising Star
Jestgar
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Bethrenee,

If you find this please pass on a brand name and what it costs. It sounds so much tastier than powdered stuff.

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mmaccartney Explorer
mmaccartney
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Check that coffee creamer again. Most of the "non-dairy" coffee creamers have sodium caseinate in them. This is a milk derived ingredient...the FDA allows them to label as non-dairy as they claim it has been processed enough that it is considered safe in terms of being an allergen...

jerseyangel Proficient
jerseyangel
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When a recipe calls for powdered milk, I use Vance's Dari Free. It comes powdered, and you mix it with water as you need it.

Bethrenee Newbie
Bethrenee
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Bethrenee,

If you find this please pass on a brand name and what it costs. It sounds so much tastier than powdered stuff.

No luck - Althought I only looked quickly at a couple of mainstream stores, and haven't checked yet the health food store. I ended up using powdered chicken bullion, and my casserole turned out fine. Not sure if it is strong enough for making cream soup.

Luvs to Scrap Apprentice
Luvs to Scrap
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I don't know if this is what you mean but I saw this at the healthfood store in IA near my parent's house and bought it and was going to try in that recipe. It is made by Glutino and has the website glutino.com listed on it. The product is called Chicken Flavored Soup base. My son just got diagnosed as soy and casein intollerant in addition to gluten and I think it looks safe. Ingredients are: corn syrup solids, sea salt, corn flour, corn starch, dextrose, autolyzed yeast extract, spices, guar gum, parsley, tumeric extract, celery extract, sugar flavour, onion extract. I used it once as a shortcut for cream of chicken soup for a recipe and it worked pretty well. (except for I accidently but too much cornstarch in to thicken it :) ) Hope this helps. :) Kendra

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Luvs to Scrap
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I don't know if this is what you mean but I saw this at the healthfood store in IA near my parent's house and bought it and was going to try in that recipe. It is made by Glutino and has the website glutino.com listed on it. The product is called Chicken Flavored Soup base. My son just got diagnosed as soy and casein intollerant in addition to gluten and I think it looks safe. Ingredients are: corn syrup solids, sea salt, corn flour, corn starch, dextrose, autolyzed yeast extract, spices, guar gum, parsley, tumeric extract, celery extract, sugar flavour, onion extract. I used it once as a shortcut for cream of chicken soup for a recipe and it worked pretty well. (except for I accidently but too much cornstarch in to thicken it :) ) Hope this helps. :) Kendra

oh, it cost $3.99

Bethrenee Newbie
Bethrenee
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Success! And in a regular store! If you have Jewel Stores (and maybe Albertsons?) check there. I found two different brands of soup base, in chicken, beef, and vegetable.

I think one of them was called "Better than Bullion". But I found it near the regular bullion.

(and it was gluten free, as far as I could tell - I'm still new at reading labels. But the chicken may have milk products (I can't remember)..

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