Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Ladies...monthly Pain Gone Being Gluten & Dairy Free?


Cottage-Soul

Recommended Posts

Cottage-Soul Apprentice

I found this thread from last year discussing endo, cramps and gluten.

Open Original Shared Link

It seems going just gluten-free didn't help most of the ladies with the monthly pain. I am wondering if cutting out dairy as well has a better outcome?

I have between a week and two of cramping every month starting at ovulation (not the little sharp pain which has a German word for a name either), this is a twisting gnawing pain that lasts up to 4 days. The pain used to stop once my period started, but now I get a extra 4 or 5 days to suffer with cramps during my period as well. My gyn is pushing for a total hysterectomy and I've got her to hold off until mid-summer to give me a chance to try this gluten/wheat/dairy free diet (starting later this week). I've been on pain pills for 3 years and she wants me to do something. I don't know that I have endometriotsis, but I do have a large fibroid. I also have a very tilted uterus (like a lot of women in the linked post). I'm 47 and done having children (I'm the mother of 1 beautiful teen daughter!) so that isn't really an issue, I'd just like to avoid the hysterectomy if I can.

So...anyone here found that eliminating dairy (or something else) had a positive impact on their pain?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



jerseyangel Proficient

Hi,

I can really relate to what you're asking!

I was in the same situation as you are when I was diagnosed in June of 05. Same symptoms, fibroid, etc. I was 49 at the time.

I have been gluten-free for a year and a half now, and dairy free for about 2 years. In my case, during that time, my largest fibroid grew from 2cm to 8cm. My symptoms actually got worse--I had hoped that the diet would have made a difference--but for me it did not. That is not to say that this is the case for everyone.

I opted to have a hysterectomy 6 weeks ago--during the surgery, they also found endometriosis and adendomyosis. For the latter, surgery is the only treatment, so I'm glad I did it.

My doctor said I should be feeling much better overall in the next month or two--and I already am! A bit sore, still, but I am feeling a positive difference.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do--it's never an easy decision. :)

Cottage-Soul Apprentice

Thanks for the reply jerseyangel. Not what I wanted to hear :( but a good honest answer.

My main fibroid hasn't changed in size for the past 2 years, they say it is the size of a 3 month pregnancy. I realize they won't know what else is going on in there until they do the surgery, but I'm sure it's more than just a fibroid or two. I've really been trying to avoid the hysterectomy although almost all the women I know who have had one are happy they did it.

Hope you get to feeling better soon and thanks again!

Michi8 Contributor
Thanks for the reply jerseyangel. Not what I wanted to hear :( but a good honest answer.

My main fibroid hasn't changed in size for the past 2 years, they say it is the size of a 3 month pregnancy. I realize they won't know what else is going on in there until they do the surgery, but I'm sure it's more than just a fibroid or two. I've really been trying to avoid the hysterectomy although almost all the women I know who have had one are happy they did it.

Hope you get to feeling better soon and thanks again!

Hi Cottage_Soul,

I think you're wise to try all of your options before hysterectomy. Hysterectomy can have a profound effect on your health and emotional well-being, and comes with a whole host of potential side-effects (one of which is pelvic pain), so should never be done "lightly." Unfortunately, it's a surgery that is performed more often than it should be.

For myself, I intend on doing everything I can to avoid this surgery. My grandmother and mother had it done, and they had difficult emotional challenges afterward, plus the issue of weight gain. Excessive bleeding (months long periods that became a health hazard) was the reason for my mother's hysterectomy...I wonder if endometrial ablasion would have been a better option for her?

BTW have you been given the option of fibroid removal? Can you have exloratory surgery without hysterectomy? I'm sure you've done already done some reading and searching about this...if you haven't seen it already, I have found an interesting book & link on the topic: Open Original Shared Link

I hope that you have good response with going gluten and dairy free...it's certainly can't hurt, and you may find added health benefits that go along with it!

Michelle :)

Cottage-Soul Apprentice

Hi Michelle,

Thanks for your reply and the link. I read part of it, but need to go back and read the other sections.

I had thought of just having the fibroids removed, but most of my pain is from the ovary area..so I don't think that would solve my problem.

My Mother is the only person I know well that is unhappy with her hysterectomy. She's had bladder problems ever since (it may not be related to the surgery, but you won't convince her otherwise). So a bad outcome for me with a hysterectomy will lead to a lifetime of "I told you so!" from my Mother which puts another con on the list. :rolleyes:

Thanks again and now to get back to reading the informative link you posted!

Michi8 Contributor
Hi Michelle,

Thanks for your reply and the link. I read part of it, but need to go back and read the other sections.

I had thought of just having the fibroids removed, but most of my pain is from the ovary area..so I don't think that would solve my problem.

My Mother is the only person I know well that is unhappy with her hysterectomy. She's had bladder problems ever since (it may not be related to the surgery, but you won't convince her otherwise). So a bad outcome for me with a hysterectomy will lead to a lifetime of "I told you so!" from my Mother which puts another con on the list. :rolleyes:

Thanks again and now to get back to reading the informative link you posted!

The uterus is an important part of the female anatomy, so to have it removed can certainly affect the positioning of the surrounding organs and tissues. As I understand it, it could affect the bladder due to organ prolapse (somewhat common after hysterectomy.) I would expect there could also be some complications with the bladder if it is adhered to the uterus (due to prior surgeries such as cesarean section).

If the ovaries are the problem, and need to be removed, you may be able to choose to remove them without removing the entire uterus. Might be something worth looking into if you need to choose surgical correction.

Michelle

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,900
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    tessycork47
    Newest Member
    tessycork47
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Welcome to the forum, @Judy M! Yes, he definitely needs to continue eating gluten until the day of the endoscopy. Not sure why the GI doc advised otherwise but it was a bum steer.  Celiac disease has a genetic component but also an "epigenetic" component. Let me explain. There are two main genes that have been identified as providing the "potential" to develop "active" celiac disease. We know them as HLA-DQ 2.5 (aka, HLA-DQ 2) and HLA-DQ8. Without one or both of these genes it is highly unlikely that a person will develop celiac disease at some point in their life. About 40% of the general population carry one or both of these two genes but only about 1% of the population develops active celiac disease. Thus, possessing the genetic potential for celiac disease is far less than deterministic. Most who have the potential never develop the disease. In order for the potential to develop celiac disease to turn into active celiac disease, some triggering stress event or events must "turn on" the latent genes. This triggering stress event can be a viral infection, some other medical event, or even prolonged psychological/emotional trauma. This part of the equation is difficult to quantify but this is the epigenetic dimension of the disease. Epigenetics has to do with the influence that environmental factors and things not coded into the DNA itself have to do in "turning on" susceptible genes. And this is why celiac disease can develop at any stage of life. Celiac disease is an autoimmune condition (not a food allergy) that causes inflammation in the lining of the small bowel. The ingestion of gluten causes the body to attack the cells of this lining which, over time, damages and destroys them, impairing the body's ability to absorb nutrients since this is the part of the intestinal track responsible for nutrient absorption and also causing numerous other food sensitivities such as dairy/lactose intolerance. There is another gluten-related disorder known as NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity or just, "gluten sensitivity") that is not autoimmune in nature and which does not damage the small bowel lining. However, NCGS shares many of the same symptoms with celiac disease such as gas, bloating, and diarrhea. It is also much more common than celiac disease. There is no test for NCGS so, because they share common symptoms, celiac disease must first be ruled out through formal testing for celiac disease. This is where your husband is right now. It should also be said that some experts believe NCGS can transition into celiac disease. I hope this helps.
    • Judy M
      My husband has had lactose intolerance for his entire life (he's 68 yo).  So, he's used to gastro issues. But for the past year he's been experiencing bouts of diarrhea that last for hours.  He finally went to his gastroenterologist ... several blood tests ruled out other maladies, but his celiac results are suspect.  He is scheduled for an endoscopy and colonoscopy in 2 weeks.  He was told to eat "gluten free" until the tests!!!  I, and he know nothing about this "diet" much less how to navigate his in daily life!! The more I read, the more my head is spinning.  So I guess I have 2 questions.  First, I read on this website that prior to testing, eat gluten so as not to compromise the testing!  Is that true? His primary care doctor told him to eat gluten free prior to testing!  I'm so confused.  Second, I read that celiac disease is genetic or caused by other ways such as surgery.  No family history but Gall bladder removal 7 years ago, maybe?  But how in God's name does something like this crop up and now is so awful he can't go a day without worrying.  He still works in Manhattan and considers himself lucky if he gets there without incident!  Advice from those who know would be appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • Scott Adams
      You've done an excellent job of meticulously tracking the rash's unpredictable behavior, from its symmetrical spread and stubborn scabbing to the potential triggers you've identified, like the asthma medication and dietary changes. It's particularly telling that the rash seems to flare with wheat consumption, even though your initial blood test was negative—as you've noted, being off wheat before a test can sometimes lead to a false negative, and your description of the other symptoms—joint pain, brain fog, stomach issues—is very compelling. The symmetry of the rash is a crucial detail that often points toward an internal cause, such as an autoimmune response or a systemic reaction, rather than just an external irritant like a plant or mites. I hope your doctor tomorrow takes the time to listen carefully to all of this evidence you've gathered and works with you to find some real answers and effective relief. Don't be discouraged if the rash fluctuates; your detailed history is the most valuable tool you have for getting an accurate diagnosis.
    • Scott Adams
      In this case the beer is excellent, but for those who are super sensitive it is likely better to go the full gluten-free beer route. Lakefront Brewery (another sponsor!) has good gluten-free beer made without any gluten ingredients.
    • trents
      Welcome to the forum, @catsrlife! Celiac disease can be diagnosed without committing to a full-blown "gluten challenge" if you get a skin biopsy done during an active outbreak of dermatitis herpetiformis, assuming that is what is causing the rash. There is no other known cause for dermatitis herpetiformis so it is definitive for celiac disease. You would need to find a dermatologist who is familiar with doing the biopsy correctly, however. The samples need to be taken next to the pustules, not on them . . . a mistake many dermatologists make when biopsying for dermatitis herpetiformis. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.