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ya know the wax that's on fruit to make it shiny? Is that gluten free? :unsure:


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To my knowledge, it's gluten free, yet contains corn.

gfp Enthusiast
ya know the wax that's on fruit to make it shiny? Is that gluten free? :unsure:

Depends on the fruit .... as to what's used.

Apples don't usually use wax but insect protein...

Lots of very soft fruits are sprayed with a candida culture which prevents other yeast based infections....but is worth considering if candida/yeast is a problem for you.

For instance Penicillium expansum and Botrytis cinerea (blue and gray mold) are variously controlled by introducing candida onto the fruit. The waxy coating is then to seal this in...

dlp252 Apprentice
Depends on the fruit .... as to what's used.

Apples don't usually use wax but insect protein...

Lots of very soft fruits are sprayed with a candida culture which prevents other yeast based infections....but is worth considering if candida/yeast is a problem for you.

For instance Penicillium expansum and Botrytis cinerea (blue and gray mold) are variously controlled by introducing candida onto the fruit. The waxy coating is then to seal this in...

:o Yikes! No wonder I react to some fresh fruits! Candida is definitely a problem for me. :(

gfp Enthusiast
:o Yikes! No wonder I react to some fresh fruits! Candida is definitely a problem for me. :(

Now here's the scoop

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Europeans buying year-old apples

By Leah Vyse

13/12/2005 - The apple market has suffered another bruising following revelations in the UK press that apples sold throughout Europe may be up to a year old.

Amazingly noone seems worried about them doing this for years until it became "news" ...

You might however prefer this

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Biological control, especially using microbial antagonists against fungal plant pathogens, has gained considerable attention and appears to be promising as a viable supplement or alternative to chemical control (Woodhead et al. 1990). The development of microbial antagonists effective against fungal pathogens of pome (Janisiewicz 1987; Janisiewicz and Marchi 1992; Usall et al., 2001; Nunes et al. 2001), stone (Pusey and Wilson 1984), citrus (Chalutz et al. 1988; Teixid
gfp Enthusiast

Oh, just in case we have any jews or muslims as well Chitosan (poly-β-1,4-glucosamine) is not kosher or halal in its usual form since it is commercially extracted from marine crustaceans however it is possible to have a kosher halal one by extracting chitin from land insects which are.

Pretty much all beetles, flies and cockroaches use chitin as an exoskeleton so you may prefer finding a roach based one than a shrimp based one... personally, I'd prefer an apple to be an apple.

dlp252 Apprentice
:o:o My doctor put me on an anti-candida diet about 2-3 weeks ago, so I hadn't had any fruit until last week when I had half an apple. I definitely reacted to something and that was the only different thing I had had, and it COULD be just the sugar alone, but who knows. At first I thought this was mainly a European thing, but when I did the google search you suggested, it seems like it's hit the US too. :( I'm with you, I'd rather eat just the apple!

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:o:o My doctor put me on an anti-candida diet about 2-3 weeks ago, so I hadn't had any fruit until last week when I had half an apple. I definitely reacted to something and that was the only different thing I had had, and it COULD be just the sugar alone, but who knows. At first I thought this was mainly a European thing, but when I did the google search you suggested, it seems like it's hit the US too. :( I'm with you, I'd rather eat just the apple!

Last time I looked into this I compiled a list of al the trade names.... like Decco I-182 .... and just keep following links then usually you find more tradenames ... keep writing them down but also write down words that the 'trade uses' these come up with the most shocking stuff because its talked about so casually by simple farm-folk... just like sheep shearing etc. one you use the right word google finds a lot more... (imagine searching on sheep shaving - you wouldn't get many hits compared to sheep shearing practice .

A lot of stuff I posted was just on Apples because that was the first link I found...same with the Europe bias...

however if you keep at this and spend a few hours you suddenly find its pretty much every fruit and every country.

You can't get much more american than

National Center for Utilization Research, Agricultural Research Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture, Peoria, Illinois 61604

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Finally last time I found the manufacturers websites..... these are truly scary!

When you read their literature you start thinking its irresponsible to ship fruit that hasn't been irradiated, UV'd kept in carbon monoxide and sprayed with fungus and insect protein....it really makes it sound like a public service.

The erm problem is this is SO WIDESPREAD... and such normal practice that you can't really avoid it... and most of the farmers treating crops with say Decco I-182 probably have no idea its a candida yeast ... they just follow the instructions on the bottle.

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NoGluGirl Contributor
:o Yikes! No wonder I react to some fresh fruits! Candida is definitely a problem for me. :(

Dear Donna,

That must be why my nose runs so much! I am terribly allergic to molds! Candida is also an issue with me! Who would have thought? This is scary.

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

sparkybear Rookie

Hi, I'm pretty new to this food intolerance thing, so forgive me if i'm talking rubbish, but would peeling the apples help at all?

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