Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Mcdonalds Fries Or The Choco Milk, Or Yesterdays Lunch?


dally099

Recommended Posts

dally099 Contributor

hey just a question, yesterday for lunch my hubby took me out and i ordered the beef taco salad with salsa and sour cream in the hopes that this wouldnt bother me to bad, will my shoulders got sore and i was dopey feeling for the rest of the day so my guess is something was in there with gluten, and my left knee was aching when i went to bed, so today i had to go to mcdonalds as one of my kids had a doc appt and we had to eat somewhere. i ordered fries and a choco milk, well within 1/2 hour of eathing it it felt like some one with cleats on was walkiing through my tummy and i had the familiar feeling that i was going to poop my drawers, nothing happened of course but i had gas for a while. now i cant see it being from the luch i had yesterday but i was told that mcdonalds fries are okay to eat? anyone have any ideas, my dinner last night was made at home and gluten-free and my breakfast this mornign was made at home as well. any thoughts would be great.

THANKS!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



pnltbox27 Contributor

i too thought fries at micky d was ok until i checked thier web site and they no longer list them as gluten free. ive had them a couple of times this month without any problems . sorry to hear your feeling bad i hope it passes fast

pnltbox27 Contributor

by the way, where in alberta are you from?? i used to live in sherwood park outside of edmonton when i was a kid im in chicago now, but i would love to bring my kids up . i always remember how beautiful it was up there

dally099 Contributor
by the way, where in alberta are you from?? i used to live in sherwood park outside of edmonton when i was a kid im in chicago now, but i would love to bring my kids up . i always remember how beautiful it was up there

hi there, i live in a little village called Edgerton we are between lloydminster and wainwright. its great hree we have a school and some resteraunts and parks. we are lucky we live on 11 acres in town awome place for the kids to be raised. you live in a huge city obvoiously! some things of the city i miss, not so much now thought that i cant eat out any more.

thanks nadine

VegasCeliacBuckeye Collaborator

I guess it would depend on how throughly you investigated the taco salad. What seasonig was used? How did the cook it? Clean ladles? What else was on the salad? Sour Cream ok?

Fries are ok unless there is cross-contamination (easily happens)

gfp Enthusiast
Fries are ok unless there is cross-contamination (easily happens)

People keep saying this regardless to the oil testing positive to gluten.

If you read the actual testing report McDo's actually publish it says, buried into the middle somewhere that after they tested negative on an EILSA test the RAST test was positive for gluten.

Open Original Shared Link

QUOTE("Cynthia Kupper @ RD, celiac disease

Executive Directo, Gluten Intolerance Group of NA")

Why the Confusion:

The confusion comes in that very few ingredients, that do not have allergic proteins in them have not filed for or been approved by the FDA as exempt from the law. Until they are exempt, the law requires that the label bear the starting ingredients if they are a top 8 allergen. This confuses and frightens consumers, who are depending

on this law to provide a measure of assurance to safety. We knew this would happen in the beginning and hope that the reaction of consumers to the McDonald's incident will cause the FDA to fast-pace the exemption process and stop the confusion. Remember that proteins cause allergic reactions. Companies must show no allergenic proteins are in the ingredient to be exempt from the law.

However McDo's say....

All these factors serve to greatly reduce the initial level of gluten from the original

wheat ingredient. The calculated level of any residual gluten in the final French fries

and hash browns is below the limits of detection (BLD) of the most sensitive

commercial gluten test.

Which is simply playing with words..... I underlined the one that is relevant....

VydorScope Proficient

Even if the fries were gluten-free (I did not believe there were before the news came out, and see no reason to believe they are now) , the x-contimation factor at those places is about as high as you can get, so I would blame the fries AND the taco salad.

Next time, try and pack a snack :)


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



gfp Enthusiast
Even if the fries were gluten-free (I did not believe there were before the news came out, and see no reason to believe they are now) , the x-contimation factor at those places is about as high as you can get, so I would blame the fries AND the taco salad.

Next time, try and pack a snack :)

VydorScope..... I really agree... but its like you said on the other thread.... people want to believe they are gluten-free....

Its obviously a tiny amount of gluten and I would worry more about CC..... but saying they are gluten-free isn't really helpful or accurate for people being able to determine their own risks ....

Indeed it actually detracts IMHO from the big issue that CC is a very high risk.... because the way our minds work as humans is we like to label stuff... so attaching a gluten-free label to it tends to make us overlook the real dangers or at least trivialise them....

dally099 Contributor
VydorScope..... I really agree... but its like you said on the other thread.... people want to believe they are gluten-free....

Its obviously a tiny amount of gluten and I would worry more about CC..... but saying they are gluten-free isn't really helpful or accurate for people being able to determine their own risks ....

Indeed it actually detracts IMHO from the big issue that CC is a very high risk.... because the way our minds work as humans is we like to label stuff... so attaching a gluten-free label to it tends to make us overlook the real dangers or at least trivialise them....

live and learn i guess, i packed a sandwich and thought that i would have some fries with it, i have had fries before with no problem but deffinitely this time their was oh well.

larry mac Enthusiast
..... i ordered the beef taco salad with salsa and sour cream in the hopes that this wouldnt bother me to bad, ......

d,

If by "beef" you mean "ground beef taco seasoned meat", and not fajita type beef "strips" (although they too have seasonings on them), then I'm sure you are well aware that wheat flour or corn flour are commonly used as thickeners.

When making taco meat, one is actually making a taco "gravy" with meat. Look at the directions on any package of taco seasonings. Brown ground beef, drain fat, add water, add taco seasoning (package of taco gravy mix), simmer for few minutes to thicken. and viola!

First thing I had to do 3 months ago was give my Taco Bell Seasoning packages away. Then I had to look at every package of taco seasoning in the stores. Most use wheat flour, I'd say around 30% use corn flour, maybe less. We actually got pretty lucky with that.

We totally got burned on almost all of the other packaged sauce mixes. White gravy, brown gravy, mushroom gravy, chicken gravy, turkey gravy, pork gravy, Au Jus gravy mix, morney sauce mix, Hollandaise sauce mix, alfredo, etc. I haven't found any gluten-free substitutes even in Whole Foods or Central Market. If anyone knows an online source, I'd be most thankful.

Now I know some are saying, packaged mixes are crap anyway, make your own. Yes, I agree. But, I sometimes like to add a little packaged mix to help increase the total volume of my sauce/ gravy, and to boost and round out the flavor. One doesn't always have sufficient quantities of meat drippings to start with, especially with a lean meat.

Also, lest anyone is about to inform me that said mixes may contain all kinds of chemical additives. Yumm! Just kidding. At the moment, small amounts of free glutamates are not a concern. Just my personal belief, if anyone wants to believe that the smallest amount is poison, it's a free world (well some of it is anyway). There are, of course, a few (percentage wise) people that really do have a sensitivity or allergy to MSG. Just as there are people who are sensitive or allergic to just about anything you can think of.

Anyway, as you didn't mention where you ate the taco salad, it's not possible for us to investigate it any further. If you've been following the taco bell thread, you may have noticed where I found out their taco meat is thickened with oat flour. Any wheat gluten in there? Maybe. But logic would point to an incredibly small amount. Perhaps less than McDonalds fries?

best results, lm

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. 0

      Penobscot Bay, Maine: Nurturing Gluten-Free Wellness Retreat with expert celiac dietitian, Melinda Dennis

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,332
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Nicolah
    Newest Member
    Nicolah
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
    • Scott Adams
      I do not know this, but since they are labelled gluten-free, and are not really a product that could easily be contaminated when making them (there would be not flour in the air of such a facility, for example), I don't really see contamination as something to be concerned about for this type of product. 
    • trents
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.