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whats up everyone,

My name is Danny from Fort Lauderdale, Fl. just got DX with celiac approx. 2 months ago. After my DX, i started shopping at a place called Whole Foods, which is nothing but organic foods and some gluten free items. As far as i know, i've been strict with my diet but it seems like i still have minor symptoms. i know i should be asking my doctor but sometimes is better asking someone with the same issue. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

By the way, is there anyone that knows of any celiac groups/ meetings in south florida that i could attend to???

Sincerely,

Danny


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Hi!

Welcome to the forum! I love whole foods. I am there almost every day. I would be careful about some of their prepared food. I have gotten sick on more than one occasion from the prepared foods. One time they swore up and down that their eggplant did not have bread crumbs and after three people went to find out and they had already packaged my food they came back and told me that they had mixed up the signs and the eggplant did have breadcrumbs. They gave me a different eggplant dish which they swore up and down was fine and I still got sick. Most of their stuff is fine but don't count on the staff for help.

Lisa Mentor

Danny, welcome.

You need to remember that it took some time to do some damage to your intestines and like-wise, it will take some time to heal. You may continue to have symptoms because the gluten free diet is not an immediate fix.

Make sure that you check you toiletries, shampoos, lotions, lip balm or ANYTHING that can get into your mouth. Gluten can hide everywhere.

I would recommend that you be diary light, if not off all dairy in the beginning. If you have villi damage dairy can cause the same symptoms as gluten, without the intestinal damage.

I have found that the best source of gluten free and related issues answers are here on this site. This is where the experts are. Always feel free to ask away.

dannynyc22 Newbie

Ok cool. It is nice to know all this. My doctor only told me stay off bread and pasta, but i come to find out theres alot more to that.

I appreciate all the information given to me and will make sure to keep that in mind.

Thanks a million

Danny

PS: If feels very nice to know that im not alone, and that theres people willing to give out a hand.

Guest lorlyn

Hey Danny just wanted to hi and welcome :rolleyes: our doc told us to read on this site because he could not tell us how to live a gluten free diet. If you have any questions this is the place for answers. I have learned so much here. Whole Foods is a good place to get special gluten-free food that you cant find at other stores. Just make sure to read labels always because companies can change at any time. Good luck and let us know if you need any help.

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