Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Positive Biopsy And Negative Blood Work


Acersma

Recommended Posts

Acersma Rookie

My name is Jody. I have had an unidentified Autoimmune disease diagnosed since about 2002. Joint pain, muscle weakness. I have suffered w/ Depression and anxiety for years. After 2 1/2 years of testing and the only thing showing up was that I had an autoimmune disease, sorry not sure what it is, maybe something will surface later. A few months ago I started gettting nauseous even vomiting after meals. I then started bloating everytime I ate or drank anything. I went in and had ultrasound on gall bladder then hida scan after polpys were seen. Surgeon said nothing wrong w/ me. I went back to my PCP and she ordered a Colonoscopy and Endoscopy. the GI said i had esophogitis, gerd, reflux and a hiatal hernia. Said to call PCP. I called there and tehy said wait till biopsies are in. I got call last week from GI nurse, she said biopsy showed Celiac have to get blood test. Did that and she called today said, nope no Celiac call and make appt for a month from now. I said no. I need to see him ASAP. Well I have appt for tomorrow a.m. Any thoughts or ideas? Wehn I did the blood test I was eating mashed potatoes (bland for the stomach issues w/ Gerd and Hernia)I wasn't eating bread or pretzels or anything real "gluteny". I am freaking out as my life is on hold due to my stomach.

Thanks for any thoughts,

Jody


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



gfgypsyqueen Enthusiast

Hi Jody,

Did they do a biopsy and that is what came back positive for celiacs? If so, you have Celiacs. The biopsy is the gold standard test. If the biopsy is poistive, you have celiacs. The blood work is frequently false positive and false negative. Blood work is usually the first test done too.

My blood work was negative but the biopsy was positive. I have celiacs and feel much better on the diet.

Hope that helped some.

BTW: Geta copy of the results of the blood work - what was ordered and what the results were. exact names and numbers. People on this site can interpret the results if needed.

Acersma Rookie
Hi Jody,

Did they do a biopsy and that is what came back positive for celiacs? If so, you have Celiacs. The biopsy is the gold standard test. If the biopsy is poistive, you have celiacs. The blood work is frequently false positive and false negative. Blood work is usually the first test done too.

My blood work was negative but the biopsy was positive. I have celiacs and feel much better on the diet.

Hope that helped some.

BTW: Geta copy of the results of the blood work - what was ordered and what the results were. exact names and numbers. People on this site can interpret the results if needed.

Acersma Rookie

Didn't mean to post blank before. Still getting used to this forum. I will write everything down. I will make sure of it. I just feel like so much of what everyone is saying is what I am going through. When i went through the joint/weakness and all of those problems it took a while to find a Dr to say hey this is a problem I am sorry we will keep looking but w/ autoimmune problems they sometimes take a while to diagnose. And when this started I didn't even think that is what is was. I was thinking oh great more dr's to tell me it is in my head....nope not in my head. I am just physically and emotionally drained. I see that some people have spent over half of their lives going through all of this and still sometimes w/out answers. I am anxious to hear what he has to say tomorrow. Thanks for the very quick response.

Jody

Ursa Major Collaborator
Hi Jody,

The blood work is frequently false positive and false negative.

Actually, that is not accurate. There are no false positives with the blood work. But there are plenty of false negatives. The same goes for the biopsy.

Jody, since you already had the biopsy, you obviously have celiac disease. The next step is to start the gluten-free diet, which you should do immediately. Trying the diet is the best test anyway. If you feel better without gluten, then it is the problem.

Sorry this is short, I need to go somewhere in five minutes. I hope you feel better quickly after starting the diet.

Nancym Enthusiast

Blood tests for celiac disease are often negative if you don't have full villious atrophy, you can be in the early stages and thus have a positive biopsy and a negative blood test.

loraleena Contributor

If the biopsy was positive you have celiacs. These damn doctors don't know a thing!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Acersma Rookie
If the biopsy was positive you have celiacs. These damn doctors don't know a thing!!

I went today and the GI said that I have IBS, Hiatal Hernia and Esophogitis. he said the Celiac biopsy showed only one of three positive tests for Celiac and the Blood work was negative and I should re-test in a couple years and for now take medicine for my allergies which I have been suffereing w/ for two years straight and to take an anti-depressants. He also said no dairy for 2 weeks, only yogart. and to eat enough fiber to get rid of constipation...which I DO NOT have. Confused, stressed, and just want to say screw it all. Thanks for all the input.

Jody.

natalie Apprentice
I went today and the GI said that I have IBS, Hiatal Hernia and Esophogitis. he said the Celiac biopsy showed only one of three positive tests for Celiac and the Blood work was negative and I should re-test in a couple years and for now take medicine for my allergies which I have been suffereing w/ for two years straight and to take an anti-depressants. He also said no dairy for 2 weeks, only yogart. and to eat enough fiber to get rid of constipation...which I DO NOT have. Confused, stressed, and just want to say screw it all. Thanks for all the input.

Jody.

IBS is usually what the doctor diagnosis when he has no clue. If the biopsy showed Celiac...then you have Celiac. I didn't have positive blood work, but I had a positive biopsy.

I'd get a second opinion if you can.

kbtoyssni Contributor

If you have a positive biopsy, that's all you need to diagnose celiac. I don't see a reason why you should continue getting testing - just go gluten-free! It's going to be a huge challenge at first, but things get much easier as you figure out safe brands. It's scary at first, but you're lucky that you've got a very treatable disease here. BTW - I also had joint/muscle pain and depression which completely disappeared after going gluten-free.

happygirl Collaborator

get a copy of the pathology report that discusses your biopsies.

from Open Original Shared Link :

"The features in a duodenal biopsy suggesting celiac disease include an intraepithelial lymphocytosis, villous atrophy, crypt hypertrophy, abnormal epithelial cells and increased chronic inflammatory cells in the lamina propria."

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Wheatwacked replied to Scott Adams's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      50

      Supplements for those Diagnosed with Celiac Disease

    2. - knitty kitty replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Scott Adams's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      50

      Supplements for those Diagnosed with Celiac Disease

    4. - Florence Lillian replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      11

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    5. - catnapt replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,355
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Amy Immerman
    Newest Member
    Amy Immerman
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Wheatwacked
      Raising you vitamin D will increase absorption of calcium automatically without supplementation of calcium.  A high PTH can be caused by low D causing poor calcium absorption; not insuffient calcium intake.  With low D your body is not absorbing calcium from your food so it steals it from your bones.  Heart has priority over bone. I've been taking 10,000 IU D3 a day since 2015.  My doctor says to continue. To fix my lactose intolerance, lots of lactobacillus from yogurts, and brine fermented pickles and saurkraut and olives.  We lose much of our ability to make lactase endogenosly with maturity but a healthy colony of lactobacillus in our gut excretes lactase in exchange for room and board. The milk protein in grass fed milk does not bother me. It tastes like the milk I grew up on.  If I drink commercial milk I get heartburn at night. Some experts estimate that 90% of us do not eat Adequite Intake of choline.  Beef and eggs are the principle source. Iodine deficiency is a growing concern.  I take 600 mcg a day of Liquid Iodine.  It and NAC have accelerated my healing all over.  Virtually blind in my right eye after starting antihypertensive medication and vision is slowly coming back.  I had to cut out starches because they drove my glucose up into the 200+ range.  I replaced them with Red Bull for the glucose intake with the vitamins, minerals and Taurine needed to process through the mitochodria Krebs Cycle to create ATP.  Went from A1c 13 down to 7.9.  Work in progress. Also take B1,B2,B3,B5,B6. Liquid Iodine, Phosphatidyl Choline, Q10, Selenium, D and DHEA.     Choline supplemented as phosphatidylcholine decreases fasting and postmethionine-loading plasma homocysteine concentrations in healthy men +    
    • knitty kitty
      @catnapt, Wheat germ has very little gluten in it.  Gluten is  the carbohydrate storage protein, what the flour is made from, the fluffy part.  Just like with beans, there's the baby plant that will germinate  ("germ"-inate) if sprouted, and the bean part is the carbohydrate storage protein.   Wheat germ is the baby plant inside a kernel of wheat, and bran is the protective covering of the kernel.   Little to no gluten there.   Large amounts of lectins are in wheat germ and can cause digestive upsets, but not enough Gluten to provoke antibody production in the small intestines. Luckily you still have time to do a proper gluten challenge (10 grams of gluten per day for a minimum of two weeks) before your next appointment when you can be retested.    
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @asaT, I'm curious to know whether you are taking other B vitamins like Thiamine B1 and Niacin B3.  Malabsorption in Celiac disease affects all the water soluble B vitamins and Vitamin C.  Thiamine and Niacin are required to produce energy for all the homocysteine lowering reactions provided by Folate, Cobalamine and Pyridoxine.   Weight gain with a voracious appetite is something I experienced while malnourished.  It's symptomatic of Thiamine B1 deficiency.   Conversely, some people with thiamine deficiency lose their appetite altogether, and suffer from anorexia.  At different periods on my lifelong journey, I suffered this, too.   When the body doesn't have sufficient thiamine to turn food, especially carbohydrates, into energy (for growth and repair), the body rations what little thiamine it has available, and turns the carbs into fat, and stores it mostly in the abdomen.  Consuming a high carbohydrate diet requires additional thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  Simple carbohydrates (sugar, white rice, etc.) don't contain thiamine, so the body easily depletes its stores of Thiamine processing the carbs into fat.  The digestive system communicates with the brain to keep eating in order to consume more thiamine and other nutrients it's not absorbing.   One can have a subclinical thiamine insufficiency for years.  A twenty percent increase in dietary thiamine causes an eighty percent increase in brain function, so the symptoms can wax and wane mysteriously.  Symptoms of Thiamine insufficiency include stunted growth, chronic fatigue, and Gastrointestinal Beriberi (diarrhea, abdominal pain), heart attack, Alzheimer's, stroke, and cancer.   Thiamine improves bone turnover.  Thiamine insufficiency can also affect the thyroid.  The thyroid is important in bone metabolism.  The thyroid also influences hormones, like estrogen and progesterone, and menopause.  Vitamin D, at optimal levels, can act as a hormone and can influence the thyroid, as well as being important to bone health, and regulating the immune system.  Vitamin A is important to bone health, too, and is necessary for intestinal health, as well.   I don't do dairy because I react to Casein, the protein in dairy that resembles gluten and causes a reaction the same as if I'd been exposed to gluten, including high tTg IgA.  I found adding mineral water containing calcium and other minerals helpful in increasing my calcium intake.   Malabsorption of Celiac affects all the vitamins and minerals.  I do hope you'll talk to your doctor and dietician about supplementing all eight B vitamins and the four fat soluble vitamins because they all work together interconnectedly.  
    • Florence Lillian
      Hi Jane: You may want to try the D3 I now take. I have reactions to fillers and many additives. Sports Research, it is based in the USA and I have had no bad reactions with this brand. The D3 does have coconut oil but it is non GMO, it is Gluten free, Soy free, Soybean free and Safflower oil free.  I have a cupboard full of supplements that did not agree with me -  I just keep trying and have finally settled on Sports Research. I take NAKA Women's Multi full spectrum, and have not felt sick after taking 2 capsules per day -  it is a Canadian company. I buy both from Amazon. I wish you well in your searching, I know how discouraging it all is. Florence.  
    • catnapt
      highly unlikely  NOTHING and I mean NOTHING else has ever caused me these kinds of symptoms I have no problem with dates, they are a large part of my diet In fact, I eat a very high fiber, very high vegetable and bean diet and have for many years now. It's considered a whole foods plant based or plant forward diet (I do now eat some lean ground turkey but not much) I was off dairy for years but recently had to add back plain yogurt to meet calcium needs that I am not allowed to get from supplements (I have not had any problem with the yogurt)   I eat almost no processed foods. I don't eat out. almost everything I eat, I cook myself I am going to keep a food diary but to be honest, I already know that it's wheat products and also barley that are the problem, which is why I gradually stopped eating and buying them. When I was eating them, like back in early 2024, when I was in the middle of moving and ate out (always had bread or toast or rolls or a sub or pizza) I felt terrible but at that time was so busy and exhausted that I never stopped to think it was the food. Once I was in my new place, I continued to have bread from time to time and had such horrible joint pain that I was preparing for 2 total knee replacements as well as one hip! The surgery could not go forward as I was (and still am) actively losing calcium from my bones. That problem has yet to be properly diagnosed and treated   anyway over time I realized that I felt better when I stopped eating bread. Back at least 3 yrs ago I noticed that regular pasta made me sick so I switched to brown rice pasta and even though it costs a lot more, I really like it.   so gradually I just stopped buying and eating foods with gluten. I stopped getting raisin bran when I was constipated because it made me bloated and it didn't help the constipation any more (used to be a sure bet that it would in the past)   I made cookies and brownies using beans and rolled oats and dates and tahini and I LOVE them and have zero issues eating those I eat 1 or more cans of beans per day easily can eat a pound of broccoli - no problem! Brussels sprouts the same thing.   so yeh it's bread and related foods that are clearly the problem  there is zero doubt in my mind    
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.