Jail Food

[little d]

Jay Leno I think that it was him that said they dont have to worry about the bill for Paris's food because she does not eat anyway

What about the military?

Do they have gluten free meals in the mess hall? What about MREs?

Sorry the military does not thing that celiac disease exist my sister is a Vet and was seeking a diagnoses last year about the same time as I was with my civilian GI Doc and they told her that it was in her head and she had quite a curvy colon WHAT I said ? Military Doc are really crazy arnt they. When my sister was in the hostpital on base a few years back for knee surgery and she was dismissed from the hospital I was waiting for the transport to wheel her down in the wheel chair and she started hobbling out the room on her crutches, I said no you have to wait for the chair to come or let me get you a chair and she said no that they want her to walk out on her own, 2 weeks later she was back with a staff infection. Military docs are crazy people. Oh I sorry I went off into a tangent did mean too. I have eaten MRE's from the ARMY/NAVY store and they all have wheat in them I belieave, I guess I will have to go to the army store while I'm out today and see. The mess hall I would not think that they would be very accomidating with gluten free meals that I'm sure is the SOILDERS duty on his or her own.

donna

[Karen B.]

What about the military?

Do they have gluten free meals in the mess hall? What about MREs?

One of the recent visitors to our local Celiac group was a young man that was diagnosed while in the military. They allowed him to move to a land based post so he could obtain his own food sources until his enlistment perod was completed and he could be honorably discharged. He said they do not have provisions for gluten-free meals or MREs in the military.

[kbtoyssni]

So I guess in summary I should try to stay away from jail! I figured it wouldn't be easy to get gluten-free in jail, but if they are unable to accommodate gluten-free, then they're killing you. And that just doesn't seem right even for people who have committed crimes. Jail messes people up enough so they have trouble when they get out and if they end up with cancer because of the non-gluten-free food in jail, too, well, that's no good. Forget lethal injection - let's do death by gluten!

[little d]

So I guess in summary I should try to stay away from jail! I figured it wouldn't be easy to get gluten-free in jail, but if they are unable to accommodate gluten-free, then they're killing you. And that just doesn't seem right even for people who have committed crimes. Jail messes people up enough so they have trouble when they get out and if they end up with cancer because of the non-gluten-free food in jail, too, well, that's no good. Forget lethal injection - let's do death by gluten!

So I guess no one here can't rob their local healthfood store and claim temporary insanity (brain fog) and such telling the judge I had a wheat bread sandwiche, with wheat pasta salad I was out of my mind from it, I had to buy some t paper and I just walked out of the store without thinking about it.

donna

[Karen B.]

So I guess in summary I should try to stay away from jail! I figured it wouldn't be easy to get gluten-free in jail, but if they are unable to accommodate gluten-free, then they're killing you. And that just doesn't seem right even for people who have committed crimes. Jail messes people up enough so they have trouble when they get out and if they end up with cancer because of the non-gluten-free food in jail, too, well, that's no good. Forget lethal injection - let's do death by gluten!

Been there, done that - took too long. :-)

Seriously, I know a woman that had a diabetic hubby in jail (don't know what he did) and she said they eat breakfast at 3 AM and dinner at 3 PM and he had to buy cheese crackers or something like that to keep from having problems with the 12 hour gap at night. IMO, breakfast at 3 AM is cruel and unusual punishment.

I wouldn't count on much help. Heck, we can't get family to understand it's not optional. You want to try to convince a jailor? :-)

[StrongerToday]

I work with people getting out of prison on parole. There is a huge difference between prison and jail for starters. Some of these guys I work with don't get their prescribed medicines or decent health care. I've got one guy who just got out and he went blind six months ago because they stopped giving him his medicine. I've got a woman diagnosed with cervical cancer two years ago (as she was going into prison) and hasn't seen a dr. yet. So, no I don't think there's a hope of getting safe food. The state is now putting people with health conditions out on early parole so that we can take care of them... how? I don't know.

And I have no sympathy for Paris whatsoever, I turn the chanel when she comes up on the news - she needs to go away. OH,, and one of my guys had pnenomia - they took him to the hospital, drained his lung and put him on an IV antibiotic for a few hours and then they took him back to jail to serve the rest of his 90 day sentance. So explain to me how Paris got special treatment to go home because she wasn't eating or whatever the excuse was.

Sorry.... didn't mean to rant!

[kbtoyssni]

I totally get what you're saying, StrongerToday. Had the woman with cervical cancer gotten proper medical treatment right away, she probably would have recovered. Now, after two years, I wonder if she can get better. And I can't imagine it's easy to get health insurance coming out of jail. I know that jail is punishment, that it shouldn't be fun or easy, but (especially for those who are not in for life) proper medical treatment should be given to at least give a chance at being a contributing member of society when they get out. Of course, now that I say that, I realize that there's a good chunk of people not in jail who can't get good medical treatment just because the way the system is set up in the USA, but seriously, if jail is supposed to be for rehab, then you have to at least try to give people what they need to be successful when they get out.

[ptkds]

I happened to catch part of The Night Show w/ Jay Leno last night, and he had that guy that does all those controversial shows like 9/11 and stuff (I can't remember his name right now). They were talking about a new movie he has out called Sicko or something. It is about the poor health care system in America. He said that the accused terrorist down at Guantanamo (sp?) in prison have EXCELLENT health care. They have done numerous dental procedures and colonoscopies and all kinds of stuff to these terrorists! It really ticks me off that I have to debate on whether I should take my sick child to the dr or get her asthma meds refilled, or buy food. I shouldn't have to choose, and no one in the world should.

Speaking of prisons, like I said earlier, my dh is a correctional officer. He is disgusted by the poor healthcare the inmates get. He once saw an inmate with (WAY too much info ahead!) one testicle about the size of a soft ball. But the nurses didn't do anything for him. He's got tons of stories, but that one is the one that I remember the most because it was just unbelievable to me that they would ignore such a symptom.

They could care less if they are slowly poisening the celiac inmates. It's sad, but it is the truth.

ptkds

[Karen B.]

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Speaking of prisons, like I said earlier, my dh is a correctional officer. He is disgusted by the poor healthcare the inmates get. He once saw an inmate with (WAY too much info ahead!) one testicle about the size of a soft ball. But the nurses didn't do anything for him. He's got tons of stories, but that one is the one that I remember the most because it was just unbelievable to me that they would ignore such a symptom.

They could care less if they are slowly poisening the celiac inmates. It's sad, but it is the truth.

ptkds

The crazy part is that for the cost of housing one prisoner, you could fund a heck of a rehab program.

[kbtoyssni]

I happened to catch part of The Night Show w/ Jay Leno last night, and he had that guy that does all those controversial shows like 9/11 and stuff (I can't remember his name right now). They were talking about a new movie he has out called Sicko or something. It is about the poor health care system in America. He said that the accused terrorist down at Guantanamo (sp?) in prison have EXCELLENT health care. They have done numerous dental procedures and colonoscopies and all kinds of stuff to these terrorists! It really ticks me off that I have to debate on whether I should take my sick child to the dr or get her asthma meds refilled, or buy food. I shouldn't have to choose, and no one in the world should.

Oh yeah, that's Michael Moore. I started watching Sicko a few weeks ago and couldn't watch anymore after 10minutes. It's still sitting there and I haven't gone back to it. The movie is about people who have health insurance. He doesn't even deal with people who aren't insured.

[StrongerToday]

The crazy part is that for the cost of housing one prisoner, you could fund a heck of a rehab program.

And most of these people who are getting out have substance abuse problems, but I've run out of money in my program (funded by the Dept. of Corrections) to get them treatment, but if they aren't in a treatment program it's a violation of parole and they could go back to prison for it. What the heck?