Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Are Masseur Oils gluten-free Safe ?


georgie

Recommended Posts

georgie Enthusiast

I had an appt this week for a chiropractor and masseur. Oil was used and now - 3 days later - I feel ill as though I have been glutened. I was struggling to find a reason and then thought of this oil that was used. Could that be the cause ??


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



nomadog Newbie
I had an appt this week for a chiropractor and masseur. Oil was used and now - 3 days later - I feel ill as though I have been glutened. I was struggling to find a reason and then thought of this oil that was used. Could that be the cause ??

Hi Georgie,

I am a licensed massage therapist (masseuse) in the United States. To my knowledge, the lotions, creams, oils used in professional massage therapy do not contain gluten. However, those with nut allergies must be aware that some of the creams, etc. do contain various nut oils. I am not familiar with what is commonly used in Australia.

I doubt you were "glutened" in that sense; the sense that new gluten was introduced to your system. What is important to be aware of is that massage stimulates the lymphatic system, which is part of your immune defense, as well as stimulating the general blood circulation. It also initiates toxins out of your muscles and possibly your organs through the general cleansing nature of the body when things get stirred up, as in during a massage. It is quite likely that your feeling of being "glutened" is due to the upsurge of old, stagnant toxins that had been lodged in your system. Furthermore, it is not an unusual event for someone, with a food intolerance/allergy or not, to feel ill after a massage or chiro treatment. This happens sometimes and is part of the reason behind the suggestion to drink plenty of water after being massaged. I have personally known some people to experience diarrhea and flu-like symptoms after a massage. This is merely due to the toxin-removal nature of every form of massage therapy, no matter how mild the massage may have seemed (if, in fact, it was light). In fact, a form of massage known as lymphatic drainage uses a very, very light degree of pressure to activate the lymphatic system. Personally, I have had this type of massage performed on me and, while receiving it, thought it was probably doing very little, due to the light pressure, but I was so sick I could not work that evening! A kind of cleansing/healing had been initiated!

And, this is important, I suggest you contact the practitioners who worked with you with your concerns, as they will be able to more succintly advise you. They will know what products they have used (to know the true answer regarding product info) and, will probably confirm some of the natural reactions to massage I have mentioned. Feeling unwell after a massage can be a 'normal' reaction. It certainly does not mean it will always happen. Like everything else, it depends on many factors, like the condition of the client at the time of the massage, etc.

I hope I have eased your mind and I hope you are feeling well.

Again, contact your masseuse! Yours is a totally reasonable question to ask him.

Take care,

Heidi

Jestgar Rising Star

Georgie,

I questioned this as well. After a massage I had a full on gluten reaction. I went so far as to write the company from which my massage practitioner buys her oils, but I never got a response. I've gotten massages from her many times and only once did I have that reaction and she always uses the same oil.

Her explanation was that maybe the massage released some trapped toxins. I wonder if she had gluten on her hands and accidentally worked it into my body. I guess there's no way of knowing for sure. But I'm not going to dwell on it.

Moustique77 Newbie

Im also a Licensed Massage Therapist in Florida for 5 years. I was using Biotone NutriNaturals lotion for my sessions. I never even bothered to look at the ingredients until I was diagnosed a few months ago. Sure enough it contains wheat germ oil. Obviously I stopped using it immediately.

My wife retails skin care products and tells me that wheat is a common ingredient used. It is high in vitamins and has antiaging properties, so its great for non-celiacs.

I know you need to ingest gluten to get a reaction. But some of these oils are so sticky, they seem to stay on my hands after several washes. Then I touch my food, or my face, etc... I think its best to avoid skin/body care products for this reason. Always ask your therapist what they are using or take your own lotion with you to a session.

And yes its true that massage stimulates many systems in the body. It can release toxins to be eliminated and therefore sometimes people feel sore or 'down' afterwards. We were taught to encourage clients to drink plenty of fluid before/after a massage to help with this effect. Overall it depends on the person how the body will react, but ultimately massage has many positive effects for the body and mind.

nomadog Newbie
Im also a Licensed Massage Therapist in Florida for 5 years. I was using Biotone NutriNaturals lotion for my sessions. I never even bothered to look at the ingredients until I was diagnosed a few months ago. Sure enough it contains wheat germ oil. Obviously I stopped using it immediately.

My wife retails skin care products and tells me that wheat is a common ingredient used. It is high in vitamins and has antiaging properties, so its great for non-celiacs.

I know you need to ingest gluten to get a reaction. But some of these oils are so sticky, they seem to stay on my hands after several washes. Then I touch my food, or my face, etc... I think its best to avoid skin/body care products for this reason. Always ask your therapist what they are using or take your own lotion with you to a session.

And yes its true that massage stimulates many systems in the body. It can release toxins to be eliminated and therefore sometimes people feel sore or 'down' afterwards. We were taught to encourage clients to drink plenty of fluid before/after a massage to help with this effect. Overall it depends on the person how the body will react, but ultimately massage has many positive effects for the body and mind.

Wow! Wheat germ oil! Thanks for finding this. At my spa we use Amber products. Do you know if they are gluten-free? I wrote to the company but have had no response yet. I think Jojoba oil is a good rec. for anyone concerned; it is thought to be the least allergenic.

Take care,

Heidi

Moustique77 Newbie
Wow! Wheat germ oil! Thanks for finding this. At my spa we use Amber products. Do you know if they are gluten-free? I wrote to the company but have had no response yet. I think Jojoba oil is a good rec. for anyone concerned; it is thought to be the least allergenic.

Take care,

Heidi

I think Amber products are ok. Im sure they confirmed them. Amber usually lists the all the ingredients on their product container in any case. I also agree that using strait oils is also a good way to avoid allergens for clients. Both Amber, Biotone and several other companies sell unscented hypoallergenic lotion/oil/cream bases to be customized with essential oils to create a signature line for clients.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - AlwaysLearning replied to Colleen H's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      3

      Gluten related ??

    2. - Colleen H replied to Colleen H's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      3

      Gluten related ??

    3. - Jmartes71 replied to Jmartes71's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      4

      My only proof

    4. - AlwaysLearning replied to Jmartes71's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      4

      My only proof

    5. - AlwaysLearning replied to Colleen H's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      3

      Gluten related ??


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,084
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    bigwave
    Newest Member
    bigwave
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • AlwaysLearning
      Get tested for vitamin deficiencies.  Though neuropathy can be a symptom of celiac, it can also be caused by deficiencies due to poor digestion caused by celiac and could be easier to treat.
    • Colleen H
      Thank you so much for your response  Yes it seems as though things get very painful as time goes on.  I'm not eating gluten as far as I know.  However, I'm not sure of cross contamination.  My system seems to weaken to hidden spices and other possibilities. ???  if cross contamination is possible...I am in a super sensitive mode of celiac disease.. Neuropathy from head to toes
    • Jmartes71
      EXACTLY! I was asked yesterday on my LAST video call with Standford and I stated exactly yes absolutely this is why I need the name! One, get proper care, two, not get worse.Im falling apart, stressed out, in pain and just opened email from Stanford stating I was rude ect.I want that video reviewed by higher ups and see if that women still has a job or not.Im saying this because I've been medically screwed and asking for help because bills don't pay itself. This could be malpratice siit but im not good at finding lawyers
    • AlwaysLearning
      We feel your pain. It took me 20+ years of regularly going to doctors desperate for answers only to be told there was nothing wrong with me … when I was 20 pounds underweight, suffering from severe nutritional deficiencies, and in a great deal of pain. I had to figure it out for myself. If you're in the U.S., not having an official diagnosis does mean you can't claim a tax deduction for the extra expense of gluten-free foods. But it can also be a good thing. Pre-existing conditions might be a reason why a health insurance company might reject your application or charge you more money. No official diagnosis means you don't have a pre-existing condition. I really hope you don't live in the U.S. and don't have these challenges. Do you need an official diagnosis for a specific reason? Else, I wouldn't worry about it. As long as you're diligent in remaining gluten free, your body should be healing as much as possible so there isn't much else you could do anyway. And there are plenty of us out here who never got that official diagnosis because we couldn't eat enough gluten to get tested. Now that the IL-2 test is available, I suppose I could take it, but I don't feel the need. Someone else not believing me really isn't my problem as long as I can stay in control of my own food.
    • AlwaysLearning
      If you're just starting out in being gluten free, I would expect it to take months before you learned enough about hidden sources of gluten before you stopped making major mistakes. Ice cream? Not safe unless they say it is gluten free. Spaghetti sauce? Not safe unless is says gluten-free. Natural ingredients? Who knows what's in there. You pretty much need to cook with whole ingredients yourself to avoid it completely. Most gluten-free products should be safe, but while you're in the hypersensitive phase right after going gluten free, you may notice that when something like a microwave meal seems to not be gluten-free … then you find out that it is produced in a shared facility where it can become contaminated. My reactions were much-more severe after going gluten free. The analogy that I use is that you had a whole army of soldiers waiting for some gluten to attack, and now that you took away their target, when the stragglers from the gluten army accidentally wander onto the battlefield, you still have your entire army going out and attacking them. Expect it to take two years before all of the training facilities that were producing your soldiers have fallen into disrepair and are no longer producing soldiers. But that is two years after you stop accidentally glutening yourself. Every time you do eat gluten, another training facility can be built and more soldiers will be waiting to attack. Good luck figuring things out.   
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.