Rat Poison Verses Gluten

[debmidge]

I was end stage when I was diagnosed and a had a very long and difficult recovery. I now have horrible high pressure and I currently take diovan and toprol for it. The toprol is new and it's not agreeing with me. It make me moody weepy and sad.Last night even with my meds it spiked to 160 over 118. It's very uncomfortable for me. My neck feels like it could explode when it's this high. It kinda scares me.

neesee

Neesee

Please if you have a moment, let me know about your "end-stage", I am very interested in this so as to know more about this condition. You may email me thru forum email.

Debbie

Note to all.....I have read that ingesting rat poison in small amounts doesn't necessarily kill you all at once....so hence the comparison of gluten to rat poison, I suppose.

[larry mac]

.....I have read that ingesting rat poison in small amounts doesn't necessarily kill you all at once.....

Hi Deb,

Your so right. Long ago I use to be a Pest Control Operator (that's the fancy name for Mr. Bug Man). Common rat poisons contain anticoagulants such as Warfarin in small enough concentrations that the victim doesn't immediately get sick, thus being tricked will continue feeding, eventually dying a painless death (or so they say).

In olden days (when I was a boy), people sometimes dipped apple slices in arsenic and put them under the house. Not a good idea environmentally, but they also used DDT back then.

I wonder how many movies/shows have been made with the wife (or husband) slowly poisoning their spouse with rat poison?

best regards, lm

[elye]

I wonder how many movies/shows have been made with the wife (or husband) slowly poisoning their spouse with rat poison?

Perhaps she could have simply been using slices of rye toast....

[UCDSurvivor]

Neesee,

UCDSurvivor here. I went pretty far down before I found out how bad gluten and protein are. And because I found out I do not metabolize protein because my liver fails to make a certain amino acid -- gluten and more basic protein is a poison to me.

But guess what -- the darn little buggers affect my personality too. I don't know about the rest of you reading this link, but I can be very terse, combative, argumentative online and not be aware I am doing it. When I found out that eating too much breads or meats caused these personality disorders I was devistated. Totally.

Nessee I take the toporol. But I wonder if more is at the root cause. Have you had all the genetic testing for the celiac? Those little proteins can cause mood swings and such that you are not aware of. So I will send you mental hugs. I have done much of the same myself.

I however had to go further than just celiac gluten free. Now am on low protein diet along with amino supplements and other things.

Am curious, Neesee has anyone ever checked your ammonia levels when blood pressure is spiking? Are there any other strange problems you are having? Hang in there sweetie.

UCD Survivor.

[larry mac]

.....I'll admit it I'm stumped, expressing myself through my writing has never been one of my strengths......I'm sorry. I'm crying. I know you don't want me here......

Dh fed me those lines yesterday because I was crying then too.

sorry

neesee

neesee please don't cry, there's no crying on Celiac Forum . How can we have an argument (I mean a discussion) if somebody's crying? It just takes all the fun out of subtly insulting the other person for their obviously wrong viewpont (ha ha). Especially since it was your husband that got you into this mess in the first place!

BTW, thanks for fighting the good fight. It just drives me crazy when someone makes ridiculous exagerations and laughable generalizations. I try to post a response, and the results are usually not too pretty. I'm really a nice guy, really! I just sometimes lack tact and finesse.

best regards, lm