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Dr. W/celiac disease But Only Acknowledges Classical Symptm


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marilyn Apprentice

I have spent the last two days saying "Now, I do not want to play doctor BUT if your Dr. will not order a celiac disease blood screening insist or go to a different Dr."

There is an MD in the community (small) that has had celiac disease for 7 years. Unless there is abdominal distress, diarrhea...just like he/she has...will not screen for this even after it is suggested. A lady joined our support group having been doctored by this MD for the last 5 years before it was screened and then dx. Sent 3 people back yesterday. A 16 year old with what I am suspecting is DH (liver enzymes are off, rash on face since he was 2, thin tooth enamel - mom actually came to me because of his autism and looking for help for other food issues) and later in the day a phone conversation with a mom. 3 kids - 8, 10, and 14. 1 and 2 under 5th percentile for ht/wt and the oldest lost 60 pounds in one year....). Will be interest in hearing back from them to see what happens.

This is very frustrating but I guess all we can do is keep talking and insisting....guess I am ranting too.

These people are contacting me or referred by the M.D. (the later kids for underweight status) because I am a Registered Dietitian. Not all RDs can counsel for this, granted, however, I must say that it is being paid attention to in the literature and continueing education arenas. That said, I also have a

strong family history of celiac disease - my mom's twin sister had celiac disease for 41 years but was diagnosed pretty quickly by Mayo Clinic, my niece at age 13, and I strongly suspect my sister who died had it and probably her daughter who says she has been tested but I am going to continue to ask her about this is she is still having symptoms. I was screened when I suspected DH but all 4 came back -. I had my son genetically tested to due to his inattentiveness, and did the home blood test on my daughter (-). Spouse is having a lot of flatulance lately that we cannot figure out and I am about to send him....

If anyone has any good ideas for working with or around this dr. I would appreciate hearing.

Marilyn


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debmidge Rising Star

The only way around this type of personality (Dr) is to lie and say you have abdominal distress and some diarrhea....then AFTER the postive diagnosis you tell her you felt you had to lie to be tested....Maybe this will make the Dr. understand better....

ravenwoodglass Mentor

I would suggest to those with suspected DH that they see a derma and ask specifically for a biopsy for it. I would also gather some documents that are fairly recent from publications like Lancet, NIH, and PubMed and give them to him. Doctors don't get much education about celiac. I found it incredible that my GI doctor had no clue that celiac can cause neurological problems. He does now. Try to educate him a bit, would he agree to go to a support group meeting perhaps? If you could talk him in to talking to the group that would make a good reason to give him the info. :ph34r:

marilyn Apprentice

I told the mom about getting a biopsy but since he has other symptoms (enamal, liver enzymes) thought a blood test could be a first start. We have ask this doctor to speak with us and refused (he went into medicine not public speaking).

Understood that Dr. are undereducated but for a dr. with confirmed celiac disease for 7 years that also has children and certainly understands the longterm consquences I guess I will use the suggestion to my clients to lie ...or get another dr. Sad statement. THanks for the replies. marilyn

Nancym Enthusiast

I'd be tempted to lodge a complaint against him with whatever organization he works for or that licenses him. Maybe try sending him a package of materials on celiac disease that will get him up to date.

melmak5 Contributor

I think the suggestion for attempting to educate this person is a sold one.

This doctor knows what it feels like to be sick and unwell and (I am assuming here) that by nature of being a doctor s/he doesn't want others to suffer.

I think it could be a great opportunity to include information about the new correlation between Type 1 diabetes, the NEJM article about inhaled gluten causing damage and an expanded list of symptoms.

(I was very atypical. My biggest problem was regurgitation and rectal bleeding... they thought I had stomach/colon cancer way before they tested for celiac disease)

Some people just really need to see things in print, from studies. (It doesn't make sense... things exist that haven't been studied, but hopefully some knowledge will push your doc towards a more greater awareness)

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