Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Celiac And Depression


mac0521

Recommended Posts

mac0521 Newbie

Hello - I am 39years old and I was diagnosed with celiac about two weeks ago.

Probably the biggest struggle in my life up until now has been with depression. I have been through talk therapy for years and have been on zoloft for years. From what have been reading there seems to be some connection between celiac and depression.

Has anyone followed the gulten free diet for a period of time found some relief from depression?

Thanks!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



KristaleeJane Contributor

Yes

I have also been diagnosed with depression at a very young age and put on anti-depressants alot through my early 20's, I didn't find that they worked and eventually I got myself off of them and tried a more natural approach, but nothing seemed to work. I have only been gluten free for about 2.5 mths and I feel a big change in my levels of depression and anxiety. It truly does effect your mood and overall strive for life.

I am hoping to continue on this path

Krista, 28

veggienft Rookie

Here's how I understand it. Wheat gluten's active ingredient is the gliadin protein. The autoimmune reaction to gliadin in the gut causes the gut to produce a protein called zonulin. Zonulin makes membranes permeable. Gliadin makes the gut-blood barrier permeable. So the permeable gut walls empty gliadin and zonulin into the bloodstream. In the bloodstream zonulin makes the blood-brain barrier permeable, and allows gliadin where it does not belong, surrounding nerve tissue.

Humans have cell receptors in the central nervous system for a protein called endorphin. Endorphin is mother nature's own tranquilizer. It keeps our moods positive. Gliadin is an "exorphin", so called because it mimics endorphin, and plugs into the endorphin receptors in the central nervous system. But instead of helping mood like endorphin, gliadin harms mood.

Gliadin also attacks nerve tissue, damaging and killing it.

Gliadin also attacks the liver, slowing the production of an enzyme called cholinesterase. In nerve tissue, cholinesterase is the base chemical needed for shutting off electrical nerve impulses. With lowered cholinesterase levels, nerves tend to fire more often, and randomly.

Wheat gluten is extremely harmful to the nervous systems of celiacs.

..

Lizz7711 Apprentice
Hello - I am 39years old and I was diagnosed with celiac about two weeks ago.

Probably the biggest struggle in my life up until now has been with depression. I have been through talk therapy for years and have been on zoloft for years. From what have been reading there seems to be some connection between celiac and depression.

Has anyone followed the gulten free diet for a period of time found some relief from depression?

Thanks!

I have suffered from depression since childhood and just 6 months ago found out I am celiac. But more importantly for the depression issue, found out that I had adrenal fatigue about 9 months ago (likely due in part from the celiac). When I began taking low-dose hydrocortisone for adrenal fatigue, much of my depression was lifted (along with irritability, rage attacks--disappeared in a few days!). In January 08 also diagnosed hypothyroid and began taking ARmour --there is a high link of hypothyroid with depression as well (also caused from the celiac disease).

I also think other factors play in here to increase depression/nervous system issues and those are: exposure to heavy metals esp. mercury and lead; leaky gut issues; intake of things like food dyes, aspartame, MSG; and Candida.

So, you may get great improvement just by going gluten-free, but if not, i'd look into some of those other links. Hope you feel better soon :)

  • 1 month later...
geokozmo Rookie

I used to be treated for depression in the past. My fatigue lifted since I am on a glutenfree diet. The connection is evident.

gfp Enthusiast
Here's how I understand it. Wheat gluten's active ingredient is the gliadin protein. The autoimmune reaction to gliadin in the gut causes the gut to produce a protein called zonulin. Zonulin makes membranes permeable. Gliadin makes the gut-blood barrier permeable. So the permeable gut walls empty gliadin and zonulin into the bloodstream. In the bloodstream zonulin makes the blood-brain barrier permeable, and allows gliadin where it does not belong, surrounding nerve tissue.

Technically zonulin is supposed to control the permeability of the cell walls. However its less simple (permeability doesn't exist as a quantity because its always relative to the liquid ... i.e. A substance will have different permeabilities for water and oil a seive coated in wax but with lots of holes will allow water through but will repel oil so its permeability for water will be higher than water for instance but without the wax its permeability for water will be higher than oil because the oil is 'thicker'...)

If you add a detergent to the oil then the permeability for oil in the sieve changes ... this is analogous to the addition of zonulin

veggienft Rookie
Technically zonulin is supposed to control the permeability of the cell walls. However its less simple (permeability doesn't exist as a quantity because its always relative to the liquid ... i.e. A substance will have different permeabilities for water and oil a seive coated in wax but with lots of holes will allow water through but will repel oil so its permeability for water will be higher than water for instance but without the wax its permeability for water will be higher than oil because the oil is 'thicker'...)

If you add a detergent to the oil then the permeability for oil in the sieve changes ... this is analogous to the addition of zonulin

That reads like a lipid function. Funny you should dredge up this thread in this way. I just started researching lipids on the internet. Lipids are simply cholesterol.

Lipids seem to be the body's vehicles for proteins and their effects on membranes all the way down to cell walls. Lipids are used this way because they have the capacity to be fluid, have the capacity to form coatings, and have the capacity to form vessels for transporting chemicals. Lipids seem to morph in and out of these states via chemical actions which simply change the adhesion and fluidity properties of the opposing ends of the lipid molecules.

I started down this road by investigating the connection between celiac disease and miscarriage ......an autoimmune disease called "anti-phospholipid syndrome". Apparently the body creates antibodies against phospholipids.

Lipids receive their remarkable qualities because the opposing ends of their molecules have opposing qualities. One end is hydrophobic, while the other is hydrophilic ......opposing vs attracting water. I found references to the body making lipids release from membranes simply by changing the hydrophobic qualities of the "head" ends of lipids.

Sometimes contaminated lipids fail to release, apparently in saturated form. Phosphates are detergents. I could find no link which said so, but I'm gonna hazard a guess, and say that some phospholipids exist because they have been scrubbed from membranes.

The point to the subject post is that lipids play a pivotal roll in sealing and protecting membranes. The membrane permeability action of a cytokine like zonulin would have to at least include the removal or parting of the lipids protecting a membrane.

Anything past that would be speculation on my part. But it's becoming apparent that an abundant intake of high density lipids is essential to maintaining the body's membrane integrity.

Eat your Omega 3s people.

..


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - trents replied to Paulaannefthimiou's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      1

      Bob red mill gluten free oats

    2. - trents replied to jenniber's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      10

      Disaccharide deficient, confusing biopsy results, no blood test

    3. - Paulaannefthimiou posted a topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      1

      Bob red mill gluten free oats

    4. - jenniber replied to jenniber's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      10

      Disaccharide deficient, confusing biopsy results, no blood test

    5. - trents replied to SamAlvi's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      High TTG-IgG and Normal TTG-IgA

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,846
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Fultonn
    Newest Member
    Fultonn
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Not necessarily. The "Gluten Free" label means not more than 20ppm of gluten in the product which is often not enough for super sensitive celiacs. You would need to be looking for "Certified Gluten Free" (GFCO endorsed) which means no more than 10ppm of gluten. Having said that, "Gluten Free" doesn't mean that there will necessarily be more gluten than "Certified Gluten" in any given batch run. It just means there could be. 
    • trents
      I think it is wise to seek a second opinion from a GI doc and to go on a gluten free diet in the meantime. The GI doc may look at all the evidence, including the biopsy report, and conclude you don't need anything else to reach a dx of celiac disease and so, there would be no need for a gluten challenge. But if the GI doc does want to do more testing, you can worry about the gluten challenge at that time. But between now and the time of the appointment, if your symptoms improve on a gluten free diet, that is more evidence. Just keep in mind that if a gluten challenge is called for, the bare minimum challenge length is two weeks of the daily consumption of at least 10g of gluten, which is about the amount found in 4-6 slices of wheat bread. But, I would count on giving it four weeks to be sure.
    • Paulaannefthimiou
      Are Bobresmill gluten free oats ok for sensitive celiacs?
    • jenniber
      thank you both for the insights. i agree, im going to back off on dairy and try sucraid. thanks for the tip about protein powder, i will look for whey protein powder/drinks!   i don’t understand why my doctor refused to order it either. so i’ve decided i’m not going to her again, and i’m going to get a second opinion with a GI recommended to me by someone with celiac. unfortunately my first appointment isn’t until February 17th. do you think i should go gluten free now or wait until after i meet with the new doctor? i’m torn about what i should do, i dont know if she is going to want to repeat the endoscopy, and i know ill have to be eating gluten to have a positive biopsy. i could always do the gluten challenge on the other hand if she does want to repeat the biopsy.    thanks again, i appreciate the support here. i’ve learned a lot from these boards. i dont know anyone in real life with celiac.
    • trents
      Let me suggest an adjustment to your terminology. "Celiac disease" and "gluten intolerance" are the same. The other gluten disorder you refer to is NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity) which is often referred to as being "gluten sensitive". Having said that, the reality is there is still much inconsistency in how people use these terms. Since celiac disease does damage to the small bowel lining it often results in nutritional deficiencies such as anemia. NCGS does not damage the small bowel lining so your history of anemia may suggest you have celiac disease as opposed to NCGS. But either way, a gluten-free diet is in order. NCGS can cause bodily damage in other ways, particularly to neurological systems.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.