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Vinegar Mystery Solved!

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Well, after putting a question out there about problems with vinegar (in my case, EXTREME itching), I went out on the Internet and did some research. I ran across an article on WebMD about Airborne Allergies (see page 4 on the topic) that mentioned that some people show signs of a mold allergy reaction when they eat foods with vinegar in them. Who'da thunk it? There have also been reports of the same reaction in some people when they eat mushrooms, dried fruits, and foods containing yeast and soy sauce, as well.

It's nice to know that the vinegar wasn't causing a gluten reaction in me, as I originally thought. It turns out to be a different food allergy. I haven't experienced this reaction with food products that contain smaller amounts of vinegar; I have noticed it in items where it is one of the first 2-4 ingredients. I don't know if I have this reaction to all of the vinegars - I guess I will have to put that one to the test.

I was found to be allergic to mold when I was 9 years old, but I figured it was to airborne mold. I have always had the same itching reaction to Penicillin, as well as the painkillers that I was given after my C-Sections - morphine, codeine, and hydrocodone. I don't know if there is a connection between these reactions or not.

I just thought I would put this out for anyone who might be looking for an answer to the same question. I hope this helps someone!

Teresa Koch

Fort Worth, Texas

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Well, after putting a question out there about problems with vinegar (in my case, EXTREME itching), I went out on the Internet and did some research. I ran across an article on WebMD about Airborne Allergies (see page 4 on the topic) that mentioned that some people show signs of a mold allergy reaction when they eat foods with vinegar in them. Who'da thunk it? There have also been reports of the same reaction in some people when they eat mushrooms, dried fruits, and foods containing yeast and soy sauce, as well.

It's nice to know that the vinegar wasn't causing a gluten reaction in me, as I originally thought. It turns out to be a different food allergy. I haven't experienced this reaction with food products that contain smaller amounts of vinegar; I have noticed it in items where it is one of the first 2-4 ingredients. I don't know if I have this reaction to all of the vinegars - I guess I will have to put that one to the test.

I was found to be allergic to mold when I was 9 years old, but I figured it was to airborne mold. I have always had the same itching reaction to Penicillin, as well as the painkillers that I was given after my C-Sections - morphine, codeine, and hydrocodone. I don't know if there is a connection between these reactions or not.

I just thought I would put this out for anyone who might be looking for an answer to the same question. I hope this helps someone!

Teresa Koch

Fort Worth, Texas

Just off the top of my head, as penicillin is grown on mold and yeast and mushrooms are actually molds (or at least all in the family), that all ties together quite neatly. I think yeasts are used in part of the vinegar making process. I have no idea where those opiates and other foods fit into the picture, but I'm sure someone else will! :)

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Well, after putting a question out there about problems with vinegar There have also been reports of the same reaction in some people when they eat mushrooms, dried fruits, and foods containing yeast and soy sauce, as well.

A very common cause for this is a yeast overgrowth. People with an overgrowth of candida (or other yeast/fungi) tend to become sensitive to airborne molds and food borne molds.

The foods you listed...including vinegar...can all cause problems for a person with a yeast overgrowth.

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lol, what does it say if I love vinegar, and it sits *well* with me? like "yum, I'll drink some of that red wine vinegar, it makes me feel even better. apple cider vinegar, sure! balsamic? yes please!" :P am I the anti-yeast? :D

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lol, what does it say if I love vinegar, and it sits *well* with me? like "yum, I'll drink some of that red wine vinegar, it makes me feel even better. apple cider vinegar, sure! balsamic? yes please!" :P am I the anti-yeast? :D

OMG, I'm glad you said that, I'm the same way... I sometimes drink the juice from a pickle jar. :ph34r: Very good for your sinuses! (If not intolerant to it... :P )

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lol, what does it say if I love vinegar, and it sits *well* with me? like "yum, I'll drink some of that red wine vinegar, it makes me feel even better. apple cider vinegar, sure! balsamic? yes please!" :P am I the anti-yeast? :D

I think it says that you dont have a sensitivity to the molds. :P

Apple Cider Vinegar is actually used as treatment for Candida.....as well as many other things. Lots of people feel better after taking apple cider vinegar for their yeast problem.

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lol, what does it say if I love vinegar, and it sits *well* with me? like "yum, I'll drink some of that red wine vinegar, it makes me feel even better. apple cider vinegar, sure! balsamic? yes please!" :P am I the anti-yeast? :D

When I was a child i used to drink red wine vinegar from a spoon, in little sips, i LOVED it. However, I ended up with chronic yeast infections most of my adult life, and now I'm off vinegar as it seemed to be causing serious stomach problems for me.

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