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Diabetes And Celiac


MrsMH

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DH was just diagnosed Pre-diabetic, what on earth do I feed him ?

Which flours are low glycemic index ? Are rice cakes really high glycemic ?

Are there any books or other resourses for diabetic celiacs ?

His blood test came back negative for celiac, by the way, but he was on a gluten-free diet when tested. He is ill whenever he eats it (starts as horrible stomach pains for a few days, then is depressed for a few more days).

Also diagnosed negative to rheumatoid arthritis despite terrible pain is his wrists (causes him to drop things all the time) Mystery joint pain I guess, any of you have that problem or does it usually show up as arthritis ?

Confused in many ways...


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missy'smom Collaborator

If you do an internet search for diabetes and gluten-free diet, there is a resource. It is a PDF and my computer can't open PDF files or I would provide a link for you.

veggienft Rookie

"Pre-diabetic" is an intentional misnomer. Hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) is the correct term, and there's only theoretical linkage to future diabetes. Most type 2 diabetics go through a phase of hypoglycemia. That does not mean all hypoglycemics become diabetic.

They don't. I'm an example.

As the evidence indicates, hypoglycemia is different diseases in different people. Past that, the causes are all theoretical. I'm convinced that my hypoglycemia is tied to my battle with candida albicans yeast.

The gut converts stomach starch into blood sugar. In my case, the problem is not sugar in the blood. It's sugar in the gut.

Candida albicans thrives on intestinal mucous membranes in the presence of sugar, not in the presence of starch. Candida spores grow on spikes. The spikes are capable of exploiting the tight junction channels into the bloodstream. The resulting leaky gut walls empty the gut's sugar and starch into the bloodstream.

Chlorine and dyes (salicylates) kill off competing good bacteria. Candida has a dormant state which allows it to survive chlorine and dyes.

If your child's hypoglycemia is actually a prelude to diabetes, then an anti-candida diet probably is not the correct diet. The solution would be to stop eating glutenous grain and cut back on starches and sugars.

If his hypoglycemia is candida related, your child should:

stop eating glutenous grain

stop eating sugar and fruit

stop ingesting chlorine and dyes

start ingesting a probiotic, like plain live yogurt

start taking vitamin B complex and vitamin C

It works for me.

Which way should you go? Try each in turn and find that out.

..

Juliebove Rising Star

Prediabetes and hypoglycemia are two different things. Hypoglycemica or reactive hypoglycemica are low blood sugar. The reactive type being a response to eating too many carbs. The excess carbs cause a quick spike followed by a low.

Prediabetes can mean different things. In most people it is slightly elevated blood sugar. My SIL had it and in her case she had high blood sugar in the mornings only. She seems to no longer have it, having lost over half of her body weight. But if she were to regain that weight, it could well come back. That does not mean prediabetics can not have hypoglycemia or even reactive hypoglycemia. Anyone with diabetes can also have these things.

Now... What to eat? I presume he has a meter and can test before meals and two hours after eating? This is the best way to know what he can eat. If he doesn't, he should speak to his Dr. and get one prescribed for him. Most insurance will cover this. If he does not have insurance, I've been told the Walmart brand meter and strips are the least expensive.

As for the glycemic index, I place very little stock in it. Potatoes are supposed to be one of the worse foods to eat and yet they work very well for me. I have full blown diabetes. But just because I can eat them doesn't mean he can. Beans also work very well for me. I try not to eat a lot of rice. If I do, I mix it with chopped vegetables such as carrots, celery, peppers and onions. Lets me eat more and lowers the carb count per cup.

I generally eat 2-3 servings of carbs per meal. 1 serving being 15g of carbs. That includes things like sauces, but does not include low carb vegetables like tomatoes and green beans. Men can sometimes eat a serving or more of carbs than women can.

Nancym Enthusiast

The gluten free substitutes are worse for diabetes than the originals! They're extremely high in carbs and starch (which is rapidly converted to sugar). I know a lot of people, myself included, who are controlling their blood sugar by adopting a controlled carb diet. I eat lots of meats, veggies, nuts, a little fruit. I don't eat grains at all.

Here's a web site that might help you get started: Open Original Shared Link

MyMississippi Enthusiast

Prediabetes means just what it says---- you're on the road to diabetes unless changes are made. Prediabetics have fasting blood sugars above 100---- but still in the range of "normal" ---- not enough to be considered diabetic--yet-- but headed that way.

What to eat ???? simple--- you gotta go LOW CARB---- Read the Book "Diabetes Revolutin" by Atkins.

What else to do??? Move about- walk, ride a bike, yard work, "exercise" - Can't be a couch potatoe. :)

It's simple--- but NOT EASY------ WE ALL LOVE THOSE CARBS ! ! ! ! But simple carbs in large amounts are killing us. Leads to obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, etc.

Eat well--- live better. :)

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