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New Reactions To Dairy


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samcarter Contributor

So, I've been gluten free for about nine months, barring some slip ups here and there. Now it seems that dairy gives me the following reactions:

--instant nausea

--brain fog

--headache

--digestive issues the next day (C or D, depending)

I'm not surprised; as a kid I was a huge cheese addict and was constipated all the time and threw up a lot. But dairy hadn't bothered me as an adult here until now. I am dismayed. Now besides gluten, I have to cut out dairy. Huh.

Anybody else "develop" new reactions to foods after being gluten free for a while?


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Yes. And some allergies lessened. And an extremely mild allergy to peaches became extreme.

Bodies are weird.

samcarter Contributor
Yes. And some allergies lessened. And an extremely mild allergy to peaches became extreme.

Bodies are weird.

Uh oh. That makes me leery that my mild allergies to bananas, apples and green beans will flare up. I did notice last summer, when I was gardening, that I'd get hives just brushing against the green bean plants. Eating the cooked beans was no problem. But I started sending my 8 year old out to harvest the green beans. :D

OptimisticMom42 Apprentice

Hello Samcarter,

Yep, I think the allergy was always there we just don't recognise themt until we got all the other ones out of our system. Like the wheat was making me so miserable I didn't notice I was having a lesser reaction to corn.

Also after getting an allergen out of my system if I go back I over-react. After getting dairy out of my system the smallest dose of lactic acid would send me running. I'll never do that again on purpose! The same with soy and grains. I just don't go there.

Take care,

OptimisticMom42

ang1e0251 Contributor

I was already lactose intolerant but could still eat a select few items. That has narrowed down to aged cheese only now. Also cannot tolerate nitrates/ites and some teas give me severe muscle pain. The first one I just don't know about, I changed to Earl Gray and am just getting over the affects. Apparantly the bergamot can block potassium to your muscles. And I was drinking it all day! I don't do well with guar gum or artificial sweeteners.

So it is not uncommon just annoying.

ksymonds84 Enthusiast
So, I've been gluten free for about nine months, barring some slip ups here and there. Now it seems that dairy gives me the following reactions:

--instant nausea

--brain fog

--headache

--digestive issues the next day (C or D, depending)

I'm not surprised; as a kid I was a huge cheese addict and was constipated all the time and threw up a lot. But dairy hadn't bothered me as an adult here until now. I am dismayed. Now besides gluten, I have to cut out dairy. Huh.

Anybody else "develop" new reactions to foods after being gluten free for a while?

I am in the same boat. It took me 4 months of gluten free to start reacting to dairy products. Just like you, I didn't have D until the next morning so it made it hard to think about what all I ate the day before , so I kept a food diary. It didn't take long to see that whenever I had a gluten free pizza or Alfredo the night before, I had D the next morning. I've also had to go soy lite and now low fructose to finally feel 99% (there's always accident now and then cc etc.) I always miss cheese but have found that feeling better is worth it and don't think about it so much anymore. I have seen posters who are able to add back in dairy after healing so maybe that will be us someday?

fripp017 Apprentice

That just happened to me too! I just put up a post for dairy-free advice! I have only been on the gluten-free diet for 2 months, and I have seen many people on this site gluten-free, dairy-free, soy-free, etc. and wondered if I would be next. Needless to say I am now gluten-free and dairy-free. Agian, like the other posts you have already recieved, I have had small issues with dairy to begin with, but I still ate it. If I eat it now, my body reacts as if I had eaten gluten.


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samcarter Contributor

Probably not the smartest thing I've done, but I tested myself twice this week with a dairy challenge. The first was with some regular cheese (melted) on homemade corn tortilla chips. I definitely felt nauseated almost immediately after eating; the next morning woke up with a sinus headache, nasal discharge plus post-nasal drip, and I've noticed more muscle aches than I usually have.

I then gave myself a couple of days of no dairy, to clear out my system a bit.

Last night I made my husband's favorite casserole, which is gluten free but does have 1/2 cup sour cream and 1/4 cup half and half in it...and had a little queasiness, nothing horrible, this morning had a runny nose. Plus gas and D.

When I get glutened, I get much more brain fog. And I have an overwhelming urge to sleep. And the hot flashes, which didn't seem to happen with dairy.

So...intolerance to casein, or lactose, or a plain old dairy allergy? The nasal stuff did get better after I took my daily Claritin (for other allergies).

*sigh* Probably the celiac was masking the problems with dairy all these years. Time to go back to my dairy-free cookbooks. It stinks because a lot of gluten-free mixes for breads and cakes have dairy in them. My Bette Hagman book, which I was looking through last night, has lots of lovely bread recipes...which all call for dried milk powder. I love how she says soy baby formula can be a substitute for the milk powder! I used that with all three of my kids, it's naaaasty!

samcarter Contributor
I was already lactose intolerant but could still eat a select few items. That has narrowed down to aged cheese only now. Also cannot tolerate nitrates/ites and some teas give me severe muscle pain. The first one I just don't know about, I changed to Earl Gray and am just getting over the affects. Apparantly the bergamot can block potassium to your muscles. And I was drinking it all day! I don't do well with guar gum or artificial sweeteners.

So it is not uncommon just annoying.

ang, which teas were causing you muscle problems? I drink Morning Thunder (Celestial Seasonings), Sleepytime, sometimes Peppermint and Green Tea. I have been having back and shoulder pain, but that is most likely from picking up my huge 2 year old!

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