Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

May I Ask...why No Dairy?


skyyblues

Recommended Posts

skyyblues Newbie

I am new to this and I am doing my best to go gluten free - still need to de-gluten kitchen - and I notice that many of you have also removed dairy. I am still broke out severly on hands but stomach feels better than it has in 20+ years!! It has been 2 weeks and only made 1 big mistake while eating out, which I paid for the next 2 days. I know the skin issues will take some time but wondering if milk and cheese could be doing something I am not aware of. I appreciate all the great info you folks have provided me so far and you seem to have a lot of patience when it comes to answering ?s so thought I would ask. Thanks......


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



rinne Apprentice

Hi. :)

Depending on whether or not the villi are damaged it may be more or less easy to digest dairy, for some this changes over time for others not. You may or may not be affected and of course the easiest way to figure it out is to cut it out.

My understanding is that if you cannot tolerate cow dairy and continue to eat it you will continue to feel badly and it will delay the healing process, perhaps someone who knows more can say more.

I have been dairy free for three and some years and every two months or so I try to reintroduce cheese, so far no success. I am able to digest home made goat yogurt though and many who are intolerant to cow milk can handle goat milk.

Here's hoping that gluten free alone will remedy your problems, it does take time. :)

psawyer Proficient

There are two reasons.

First, celiacs with intestinal damage usually have lactose intolerance. This is because lactase, the enzyme needed to digest lactose, is produced in the villi. Until the villi have recovered, an intolerance to lactose (milk sugar) is common. In most cases, it is temporary and goes away when the villi regenerate.

Second, a large number of celiacs are also intolerant to casein (milk protein). This situation is usually permanent.

While there are some dairy products that are lactose-free or very low in lactose, all dairy products contain casein. Hard cheeses are generally lactose-free, as all the lactose is consume in the cheese-making process.

So a common recommendation is to avoid dairy at first. Once you have been gluten-free for some time, try reintroducing dairy.

Welcome to the board.

mimommy Contributor

Many newly diagnosed celiacs are also dairy intolerant, at least in the beginning stages of the gluten free diet/healing process because the villi in the small intestine are damaged. The villi are the finger like projections in the bowel wall that digest and absorb nutrients and become flattened/damaged by the auto-immune response the body creates to fight the toxin (grain proteins). The villi are also responsible for processing the proteins and sugars in dairy--casein, lactose and lactase. Some celiac patients find they can go back to eating dairy later on, after the bowel has healed. It is even a good idea to avoid all dairy products during and after a bout of the "flu" or any intestinal symptom--at least, that's what my doc told me.

Nancym Enthusiast

A lot of people intolerant of gluten also have issues with dairy. It's probably a good idea to at some point eliminate dairy for a couple of weeks and see if it makes a difference in your health.

skyyblues Newbie

Thank you all for the information. I went to the endo doc yesterday. I am scheduled for a endoscopy and colonoscopy on May 12. I cried when I agreed to go back to eating "it". :( I went to dinner last night and started to break out Been in the bathroom twice already this morn and pains are horrible. I am not sure I will make it 4 weeks. I am taking pics so I can show the doc in case it gets to where I can't stand it anymore. I will keep the appt. even if I can't stay on the regular diet just to rule out any other complications. Holding stomach and itching but wish you all a great day!! Thanks again.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,191
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    teresa1955
    Newest Member
    teresa1955
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Ginger38
      So I recently had allergy testing for IGE antibodies in response to foods. My test results came back positive to corn, white potatoes, egg whites. Tomatoes, almonds and peanuts to name a few.  I have had obvious reactions to a few of these - particularly tomatoes and corn- both GI issues. I don’t really understand all this allergy versus celiac stuff. If the food allergies are mild do I have to avoid these foods entirely? I don’t know what I will eat if I can’t  have corn based gluten free products 
    • Kris2093u4
      Geography makes a difference.  I'm in the West and Trader Joe's gluten-free bread tastes great and is a better price than most gluten-free breads sold elsewhere in my area.  
    • JForman
      We have four children (7-14 yo), and our 7 year old was diagnosed with NCGS (though all Celiac labs were positive, her scope at 4 years old was negative so docs in the US won't call it celiac). We have started her on a Gluten Free diet after 3 years of major digestive issues and ruling out just about everything under the sun. Our home and kitchen and myself are all gluten-free. But I have not asked my husband/her dad or her other siblings to go completely gluten-free with us. They are at home, but not out of the home. This has led to situations when we are eating out where she has to consistently see others eating things she can't have and she has begun to say "Well, I can't have <fill in the blank>...stupid gluten."  How have you supported your gluten-free kiddos in the mental health space of this journey, especially young ones like her. I know it's hard for me as an adult sometimes to miss out, so I can't imagine being 7 and dealing with it! Any tips or ideas to help with this? 
    • Jane878
      By the time I was 5 I had my first auto0immune disorder, Migraine headaches, with auras to blind me, and vomiting, sensitivity to light and sound. I was 5 years old, and my stepfather would have pizza night, milling his own flour, making thick cheesy gluten pizza, that I would eat and the next day, I would have serious migraines, and my mother & stepfather did nothing about my medical problems. When I was 17 in my first year at college, I was diagnosed with my 2nd known auto-immune disorder, Meniere's disease. I was a elite athlete, a swimmer, and soccer player. And once again my parents didn't think anything of understanding why I had a disorder only older people get. Now after my mother passed from Alzheimer's disease she also suffered with living with gluten. She had a rash for 30 years that nobody could diagnose. She was itchy for 45 years total. My brother had a encapsulated virus explodes in his spleen and when this happened his entire intestines were covered with adhesions, scar tissue and he almost lost his life. He has 5 daughters, and when I finally was diagnosed after being pregnant and my body went into a cytokine storm, I lost my chance to have children, I ended up having Hashimoto's disease, Degenerative Disc disease, and my body started to shut down during my first trimester. I am 6ft tall and got down to 119lbs. My husband and I went to a special immunologist in Terrace, California. They took 17 vials of blood as we flew there for a day and returned home that evening. In 3 weeks, we had the answer, I have Celiac disease. Once this was known, only my father and husband made efforts to change their way of feeding me. At the family cabin, my stepfather & mother were more worried that I would ruin Thanksgiving Dinner. It wasn't until one of my cousins was diagnosed with Celiac disease. They finally looked into getting Gluten Free flour and taking measures to limit "gluten" in meals. He did nothing but ask for me to pay for my own food and wi-fi when I came to the cabin to stay after our house burned down. When he informed my mother, they proceeding to get into a physical fight and she ended up with a black eye. The is just more trauma for me. Sam had no interest in telling the truth about what he wanted. He lied to my mother that he had asked my husband if I could pay for "food" when he asked Geoffrey if I had money to pay for my wi-fi. My mother hates when he spends so much time on the computer so he lied and said I could pay for my own food. I will remind you I weighed 119lbs at this time. (At 6ft) that is a very sick looking person. Neither parent was worried about my weight, they just fought about how cheap my stepfather was. As my mother was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease in 2014. He had her sign over the will to a trust and added his children. He had no testimonial capacity at the time, so she signed without proper papers. Making this Trust null and void. When I gave my brother my childhood home, my mother stated I would be getting an equal part of inheritance to the house on Race. It currently worth 2.0 million $. I got nothing, and my stepfather has since disowned me b/c of my claim and he knows that my mother would never have left it uneven between my biological brother and myself. She sat me and my husband down, as we lived at the Race Street house and treated and took care of it as our own. My brother took over b/c he was going through a horrific divorce and needed a home so he could get a better custody deal with his soon to be ex-wife who was a Assist DA for Denver. She used the girls against him, and he & I were the primary caregivers. We, Judd and I spent the most time with them pre the divorce. Once Judd moved into the house, he threw all of my mother, grandmother and my family heirlooms out to the Goodwill. Nobody told my mother about this as she was going through cancer treatment and had Alzheimer's disease in her mother and her sister. My stepfather and biological brother took advantage of this matter, as I called a "family council" that my brother just never could make it to at the last moment. All of the furnishing, kitchen ware, everything was in the house my brother just moved into. He had had 2 weddings, I chose to elope b/c my stepfather ruined my brother's first wedding by talking about his relationship with my brother in front of my dad and his entire family, insulting him and having my grandfather leave the ceremony. It was a disaster. My stepfather just plays dumb and blames my father for the slight. I was the only child not to have a wedding. So, my mother and stepfather never had to pay for a thing. My mother had had an agreement with my father he'd pay for college and all medical issues with their kids, myself and Judd. So truly my mother never had to pay for anything big for me in her entire life. I am looking for anyone that has had a similar story, where they grew up in a household that had a baker that regularly milled flour and ate gluten. What happened to you? DId you suffer from different auto-immune diseases b/c of living with a baker using "gluten" Please let me know. I have been looking into legal ways to get my stepfather to give me what my mother had promised, and he erased. Thank you for listening to my story. Jane Donnelly  
    • trents
      Possibly gluten withdrawal. Lot's of info on the internet about it. Somewhat controversial but apparently gluten plugs into the same neuro sensors as opiates do and some people get a similar type withdrawal as they do when quitting opiates. Another issue is that gluten-free facsimile flours are not fortified with vitamins and minerals as is wheat flour (in the U.S. at least) so when the switch is made to gluten-free facsimile foods, especially if a lot of processed gluten-free foods are being used as substitutes, vitamin and mineral deficiencies can result. There is also the possibility that she has picked up a virus or some but that is totally unrelated to going gluten-free.
×
×
  • Create New...