Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

How Long Could It Take To See A Reaction?


livingchronically

Recommended Posts

livingchronically Newbie

I'm completely new here. My daughter was diagnosed with Celiac last year from a biopsy. There are questions from the doctor as to whether or not this diagnosis was correct. So, my daughter was told to begin eating gluten again to see what happens. If there is no reaction, they will retest again in one month.

Here's my question: I know that you can feel the effects of gluten almost immediately, but how long CAN it take? Google is no help here. My daughter had half a bagel yesterday and the other half today along with two small pieces of pizza for lunch. We've seen no side effects up to this point. I'm wondering if there can be a delay in seeing the symptoms?

If you could fill me in, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



ravenwoodglass Mentor

Gluten reactions can be delayed. For some it takes 3 to 7 days for a reaction and in addition there are celiacs that are asymptomatic. Why is this doctor questioning the biopsy? Is he a new doctor? Is she still having issues? How has she done on the diet? Did issues she had resolve at all? If she has been off gluten she needs to be back on it for about 3 months for any chance of testing to come back positive. False negatives abound but false positives are really rare. Has this doctor said what benefit there is to making her sick again? I would understand the doctor wanting to test if she hadn't had the biopsy but why is he questioning what is considered the 'gold standard'?

rinne Apprentice

:o

I agree with the above poster, why is the doctor questioning the results of the biopsy?

I have had problems with wheat for over thirty years, in my younger years if I didn't eat wheat for a while I could eat it without any apparent problems for a brief time and then the problems would return. I wonder if this is the case for your daughter?

The reality is the biopsy looks for damage, from the past biopsy you were told she had damage, damage heals, now they are asking for her to damage herself again so they can look again!

livingchronically Newbie

Thanks for your reply and the great questions. This is our second doctor because we moved to another state. I think initially her symptoms were not as typical. She received the news (she was 15 at the time) about an upcoming move (stress trigger) and that week developed a fever, stomach cramps and vomiting 2-3 times daily. The other symptoms went away but the stomach grumbling and vomiting continued non-stop, usually happening at night. We went through all of the non-invasive testing and the ped. GI never considered celiac. After a couple of months we did the endoscopy and the pathology report came back consistant for celiac. They immediately put her on the gluten free diet and it took 3-5 months for the daily vomiting to end.

The first thing everyone considered was that it was stress and her body was reacting. I also know that stress can trigger celiac disease.

Here's another clincher, she tried Chick-fil-A chicken nuggets this past October and had absolutely no reaction. She remained gluten-free except for having the chicken nuggets maybe twice a month or so with no side effects. We just couldn't understand why she could eat something that clearly contains gluten without a reaction. The only time she has possibly been "glutened" (other than the chicken nuggets) was about a month ago and it would have had to be cross contamination. I bought a store-brand plain basmati rice and she got stomach cramps both times I prepared that brand of rice. That was her only symptom. She's not vomited since last year when we originally went gluten-free.

The doctor advised that if she does get sick, she should just quit eating the gluten and give him a call. He didn't encourage her to continue eating if she got sick. He did say that he felt that from the biopsy, it was celiac. But with a life-long diagnosis, it wouldn't hurt to be 100% sure since there were questions.

I appreciate any and all advise/opinions I can get. Thanks!

Gluten reactions can be delayed. For some it takes 3 to 7 days for a reaction and in addition there are celiacs that are asymptomatic. Why is this doctor questioning the biopsy? Is he a new doctor? Is she still having issues? How has she done on the diet? Did issues she had resolve at all? If she has been off gluten she needs to be back on it for about 3 months for any chance of testing to come back positive. False negatives abound but false positives are really rare. Has this doctor said what benefit there is to making her sick again? I would understand the doctor wanting to test if she hadn't had the biopsy but why is he questioning what is considered the 'gold standard'?
livingchronically Newbie

I forgot to add that the likelihood of this being in her system is pretty good because she was diagnosed with CFIDS/ME in 2006 and Neurally Mediated Hypotension this year - all in the autoimmune category.

Thanks for your reply and the great questions. This is our second doctor because we moved to another state. I think initially her symptoms were not as typical. She received the news (she was 15 at the time) about an upcoming move (stress trigger) and that week developed a fever, stomach cramps and vomiting 2-3 times daily. The other symptoms went away but the stomach grumbling and vomiting continued non-stop, usually happening at night. We went through all of the non-invasive testing and the ped. GI never considered celiac. After a couple of months we did the endoscopy and the pathology report came back consistant for celiac. They immediately put her on the gluten free diet and it took 3-5 months for the daily vomiting to end.

The first thing everyone considered was that it was stress and her body was reacting. I also know that stress can trigger celiac disease.

Here's another clincher, she tried Chick-fil-A chicken nuggets this past October and had absolutely no reaction. She remained gluten-free except for having the chicken nuggets maybe twice a month or so with no side effects. We just couldn't understand why she could eat something that clearly contains gluten without a reaction. The only time she has possibly been "glutened" (other than the chicken nuggets) was about a month ago and it would have had to be cross contamination. I bought a store-brand plain basmati rice and she got stomach cramps both times I prepared that brand of rice. That was her only symptom. She's not vomited since last year when we originally went gluten-free.

The doctor advised that if she does get sick, she should just quit eating the gluten and give him a call. He didn't encourage her to continue eating if she got sick. He did say that he felt that from the biopsy, it was celiac. But with a life-long diagnosis, it wouldn't hurt to be 100% sure since there were questions.

I appreciate any and all advise/opinions I can get. Thanks!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,948
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Stephanie94
    Newest Member
    Stephanie94
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Jacki Espo
      This happened to me as well. What’s weirder is that within a couple hours of taking paxlovid it subsided. I thought maybe I got glutened but after reading your post not so sure. 
    • Mari
      Hi Tiffany. Thank you for writing your dituation and  circumstancesin such detail and so well writte, too. I particularly noticed what you wrote about brain for and feeling like your brain is swelling and I know from my own experiences that's how it feel and your brain really does swell and you get migraines.    Way back when I was in my 20s I read a book by 2 MD allergist and they described their patient who came in complaining that her brain, inside her cranium, was swelling  and it happened when she smelled a certain chemical she used in her home. She kept coming back and insisting her brain actually swelled in her head. The Drs couldn't explain this problem so they, with her permission, performed an operation where they made a small opening through her cranium, exposed her to the chemical then watched as she brain did swell into the opening. The DRs were amazed but then were able to advise her to avoid chemicals that made her brain swell. I remember that because I occasionally had brain fog then but it was not a serious problem. I also realized that I was becoming more sensitive to chemicals I used in my work in medical laboratories. By my mid forties the brain fog and chemicals forced me to leave my  profession and move to a rural area with little pollution. I did not have migraines. I was told a little later that I had a more porous blood brain barrier than other people. Chemicals in the air would go up into my sinused and leak through the blood brain barrier into my brain. We have 2 arteries  in our neck that carry blood with the nutrients and oxygen into the brain. To remove the fluids and used blood from the brain there are only capillaries and no large veins to carry it away so all those fluids ooze out much more slowly than they came in and since the small capillaries can't take care of extra fluid it results in swelling in the face, especially around the eyes. My blood flow into my brain is different from most other people as I have an arterial ischema, adefectiveartery on one side.   I have to go forward about 20 or more years when I learned that I had glaucoma, an eye problem that causes blindness and more years until I learned I had celiac disease.  The eye Dr described my glaucoma as a very slow loss of vision that I wouldn't  notice until had noticeable loss of sight.  I could have my eye pressure checked regularly or it would be best to have the cataracts removed from both eyes. I kept putting off the surgery then just overnight lost most of the vision in my left eye. I thought at the I had been exposed to some chemical and found out a little later the person who livedbehind me was using some chemicals to build kayaks in a shed behind my house. I did not realize the signifance  of this until I started having appointments with a Dr. in a new building. New buildings give me brain fog, loss of balance and other problems I know about this time I experienced visual disturbances very similar to those experienced by people with migraines. I looked further online and read that people with glaucoma can suffer rapid loss of sight if they have silent migraines (no headache). The remedy for migraines is to identify and avoid the triggers. I already know most of my triggers - aromatic chemicals, some cleaning materials, gasoline and exhaust and mold toxins. I am very careful about using cleaning agents using mostly borax and baking powder. Anything that has any fragrance or smell I avoid. There is one brand of dishwashing detergent that I can use and several brands of  scouring powder. I hope you find some of this helpful and useful. I have not seen any evidence that Celiac Disease is involved with migraines or glaucoma. Please come back if you have questions or if what I wrote doesn't make senseto you. We sometimes haveto learn by experience and finding out why we have some problems. Take care.       The report did not mention migraines. 
    • Mari
      Hi Jmartes71 That is so much like my story! You probably know where Laytonville is and that's where I was living just before my 60th birthday when the new Dr. suggested I could have Celiacs. I didn't go on a gluten challange diet before having the Celiac panel blood test drawn. The results came back as equivical as one antibody level was very high but another, tissue transaminasewas normal. Itdid show I was  allergic to cows milk and I think hot peppers. I immediately went gluten free but did not go in for an endoscopy. I found an online lab online that would do the test to show if I had a main celiac gene (enterolab.com). The report came back that I had inherited a main celiac gene, DQ8, from one parent and a D!6 from the other parent. That combination is knows to sym[tons of celiac worse than just inheriting one main celiac gene. With my version of celiac disease I was mostly constipated but after going gluten-free I would have diarrhea the few times I was glutened either by cross contamination or eating some food containing gluten. I have stayed gluten-free for almost 20 years now and knew within a few days that it was right for me although my recovery has been slow.   When I go to see a  medical provide and tell them I have celiacs they don't believe me. The same when I tell them that I carry a main celiac gene, the DQ8. It is only when I tell them that I get diarrhea after eating gluten that they realize that I might have celiac disease. Then they will order th Vitamin B12 and D3 that I need to monitor as my B12 levels can go down very fast if I'm not taking enough of it. Medical providers haven't been much help in my recovery. They are not well trained in this problem. I really hope this helps ypu. Take care.      
    • knitty kitty
    • DebJ14
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.