Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Anyone Had Negative Results From Dr Fine's Panel?


trying4faith

Anyone had negative results from Dr Fine's panel?  

You do not have permission to vote in this poll, or see the poll results. Please sign in or register to vote in this poll.

Recommended Posts

trying4faith Apprentice

Just trying to find out if everyone who gets tested gets back a positive finding...


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



minivanmama0300 Newbie

Well, my dd came in under 10 on all gluten sensitivity panels, so yes we have had a negative.

trying4faith Apprentice

Hm. I'm guessing though, that despite your test results, you still get sick if you consume gluten? (or why would you still be on the boards when you can be out eating everything in sight :)

That's disconcerting... I would hope that the tests are accurate...

nikki-uk Enthusiast

Hi, my husband had negative blood results,but 'positive' biopsy showing villous atrophy.

I'm not sure I understand why,and it makes my husband think the docs have got it wrong-especially as he's seen no improvement in health on the gluten-free diet.

It's all so confusing!...

skbird Contributor

My results came back under 10 on all counts but I had been eating gluten-free for 5 months and reduced gluten for two years before that. I do have a gluten-sensitive genotype, but not Celiac.

Stephanie

jools Newbie

my test results came back negative as well, but i had been on a gluten free diet already for at least 6 months. i get sick whenever i encounter gluten so the doc said that it was safe to just stay on the gluten-free diet.

Lesliean Apprentice

Yep, I was gluten-free for 2 and 1/2 months and high normal on Enterolab's tests. I e-mailed Dr. Fine the day I received his report (saying that while my report was within normal I could try a gluten-free trial if I was having symptoms) to get his recommendation. He wrote back that day advising me to go gluten-free because I had such a resolution of symptoms gluten-free and two copies of DQ1. I have the neurologically presenting genes (DQ1) that can reek havic with the entire body while showing negative on blood work (sometimes) and biopsy (almost always) and I was gluten-free at the time of testing.

Because of this conservative yet professional and completely up to date response I think Dr. Fine is exceptional. He does report negative results and yet doesn't miss the up to 50% of Celiacs that serology and biopsy does. I know this is controversial and blood work has its place but so many of us are missed by current testing methods (says Dr. Alessio Fasano with the Center for Celiac Research in his May 6th meeting) and some genes that predispose towards gluten sensitivity aren't even recognized by GI's even though they account for 2% of documented Celiac disease and 20% of gluten ataxia.(Open Original Shared Link).

Leslie


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



gf4life Enthusiast

People do test negative with Enterolab (while on a regular gluten diet), but you won't find many on this board. The only ones who will still be around are probably parents of kids who have tested positive, and they would most likely have at least one gene...

I have heard people say that when they had their whole family tested at least one member tested negative. But there is also that most of the people getting tested are symptomatic, which increases the amount of positives. If you didn't have symptoms, and didn't have family members who had it, why would you spend the money on the testing. Both the symtoms and the family propensity towards the disease increase the likelyhood of the results being positive.

God bless,

Mariann

snoopylian Apprentice

Leslie,

Does that mean you have two genes predisposing you to gluten sensitivity - like say 0501 and 1301 for example?

two copies of DQ1.

and

I have the neurologically presenting genes (DQ1) that can reek havic with the entire body while showing negative on blood work (sometimes) and biopsy (almost always) and I was gluten-free at the time of testing.
what does that exactly mean? Talk to me like I'm stupid :)

Thank you very much.

cindyann50 Newbie

My husband's tTg came back 6.5 and his endomysial ABY came back negative; he has no symptoms at age 71 with the exception of osteoporosis which was diagnosed 8 years ago. What does a low tTg indicate? I am ready to have Dr. Fine's testing done; we have a 21 year old daughter blood and biopsy diagnosed 1/05 and an autistic grandson age 12. I have 2 genes, DQ2 and DQ1, blood tests negative in 2000, all symptoms of DH. Any ideas?

kvogt Rookie

cindyann50,

From your description, the osteoporosis clinches it for me. I'd bet he has celiac disease. I believe gluten sensitivity will be the cause of nearly all osteoporosis problems. How's his iron?

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Borky posted a topic in Dermatitis Herpetiformis
      0

      Gluten food test strips

    2. - Wheatwacked replied to Midwesteaglesfan's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      1

      Going for upper endoscopy today

    3. - Midwesteaglesfan posted a topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      1

      Going for upper endoscopy today


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,268
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Cookie Monster13
    Newest Member
    Cookie Monster13
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Borky
      I just recently saw something on this.  Has anyone tried test strips?  Which brand is better?  Not sure how they really work and if they really do work.  Thank you, Nancy (aka Borky)
    • Wheatwacked
    • Wheatwacked
      Hello @Midwesteaglesfan and welcome. A result greater than 10 U/mL is considered positive. Some labs use 15 as the cutoff, but 34 is in the positive.  The endoscopy and biopsy is looking for damage to your small intestine.  I don't don't think 5 days is enough to repair the damage. This comment is effectly your answer, regardless of your biopsy results.  The endoscopy has been the Gold Standard diagnostic, and most healthcare providers won't diagnose celiac disease until your intestinal lining Marsh Score reaches stage 3. You don't really want to wait for the damage to get worse, especially since only five days mostly gluten free gave you relief.  Yes, migranes is one of the 200 symptoms that may be caused by Celiac Disease. Malabsorption Syndrome is often comorbid with celiac disease.  The western diet is deficient in many vitamins and minerals.  That's why gluten processed foods are fortified.  Gluten free processed foods are not; Vitamin D deficiency is a virtual given.  40 to 60% of the industrial population is deficient in vitamin D, Damage to the intestinal lining from celiac disease can decrease the number of vitamin D receptors.  So now you get no vitamin D from the sun (skin cancer scare) the major source of vitamin D, plus absorbtion from food is poor because of intestinal damage.   Low iodine intake is getting more of a concern because the major source of iodine used to be bread (dough conditioner with iodine was stopped in the US in the 1970s), dairy (lactose intolerance from eating quick pickles with vinegar instead of fermented pickles which supply lactase excreting lactobacillus to improve Lactose intolerance. Commercial Dairies have wheat, barley and rye added to the cow feed. Some say they are sensitive to milk protein, but it is the gluten added to supplement the cow feed to increase milk production that becomes part of the milk protein causing the problem.  And people use less iodized salt.  In the US intake of iodine dropped 50% from 1970 to 1984. Switch to Grass fed only milk and consider supplementing Liquid Iodine drops to your diet.  The omega 6 to omega 3 ratio of commercial milk is 5:1; Organic milk is 3:1 and grass fed milk is 1:1. The typical western diet is around 14:1, optimum for humans is 1:1.  Wheat flour is 22:1 omega 6:3.  Choose vegetables lower in omega 6, it is inflammatory. Eat fermented foods and switch to Grass fed only milk.  Some say they are sensitive to milk protein, but it is the gluten added to supplement the cow feed to increase milk production that becomes part of the milk protein.   
    • Midwesteaglesfan
      At 41 years old I have been fighting fatigue and joint pain for a couple months.  My family doctor kept saying nothing was wrong but I was insistent that I just didn’t feel right.  Finally after running several blood labs, one came back showing inflammation in my body and I was referred to a rheumatologist.  He was extremely thorough and sat with me and my family for a good hour asking questions and listening. He ordered X-rays of all my joints and more bloodwork.  He suspected some sort of reactive inflammatory arthritis.  My TTG (Tissue Transglutaminase) came back at 34. he told me to try going gluten free and out me on Salfasalzin to help the join inflammation.  Over the next couple days going gluten free and doing a lot of research and talking to people with celiacs,  we found that I should have an upper endoscopy for insurance purposes in the future.  I reached back out to my rheumatologist and expressed this concern and he got back to me stating I was correct and resume regular gluten diet and stop the medication until after that scope.     They were able to schedule me in for 2 days later.  I had been gluten free, or as close to it as I could be for about 5 days.  I know I ate some brats with it but wanted to use them up.  My symptoms had gotten slightly better in those 5 days.  I felt less fatigue and joint pain was slightly better(it had gotten really bad) so for these last 2 days I’ve gone crazy with wheat bread, pasta and such.  I’m hoping those 5 days didn’t screw this endoscopy up.  I can’t imagine after a life of gluten, my intestines healed in 5 days and after eating gluten again for these couple days,  my stomach hurts, joint pain is coming back up so I know the inflammation is there.   Hinesight after this diagnosis, I have had chronic migraines since my late teens.  Has that been a lingering symptom of celiacs all these years?  I’ve never really had the stomach issues, for me it came in heavy these last couple months as the fatigue, just always feeling tired and exhausted.  And the joint pain.     So getting in the car for the 2 hour drive to the hospital for this scope now.     Wish me luck!
    • marlene333
      To play it safe, use Vasoline Lip Therapy. No questions as to it containing gluten.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.