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Question About Nausea And Sensitivity

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Howdy! I am borderline with celiacs... IgA low, suggestive of celiacs, and variety of health ailments suggest gluten sensitivity. However, allergy test (IgG, I think) showed negative wheat allergy and positive egg allergy.

OK. So I had some (i think) foccacia cheese rolls this week-- no problem. Had a hamburger bun with BBQ yesterday afternoon for lunch-- no problem. For dinner, had a slice of Nature's Own Honeywheat bread and instantaneously became nauseous. I remember that when I used to occasionally eat bagels for breakfast, would almost always become nauseous, but assumed that was IBS since I was diagnosed with that (before I met a friend who's a doctor with gluten sensitivity).

What are your thoughts... Why would the roll and bun not make me sick, but the bread did? Particular ingrediant you think? Do you think this seems to indicate a gluten sensitivity??

Best, Jennifer

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Howdy! I am borderline with celiacs... IgA low, suggestive of celiacs, and variety of health ailments suggest gluten sensitivity. However, allergy test (IgG, I think) showed negative wheat allergy and positive egg allergy.

OK. So I had some (i think) foccacia cheese rolls this week-- no problem. Had a hamburger bun with BBQ yesterday afternoon for lunch-- no problem. For dinner, had a slice of Nature's Own Honeywheat bread and instantaneously became nauseous. I remember that when I used to occasionally eat bagels for breakfast, would almost always become nauseous, but assumed that was IBS since I was diagnosed with that (before I met a friend who's a doctor with gluten sensitivity).

What are your thoughts... Why would the roll and bun not make me sick, but the bread did? Particular ingrediant you think? Do you think this seems to indicate a gluten sensitivity??

Best, Jennifer

All I can tell you is there's no egg in Nature's Own honey wheat bread Open Original Shared Link and none in bagels unless it was an egg bagel. Was the bagel maybe whole wheat? It sounds like you might benefit from trying the gluten-free diet. You don't have to have celiac disease for it to do you good.

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All I can tell you is there's no egg in Nature's Own honey wheat bread Open Original Shared Link and none in bagels unless it was an egg bagel. Was the bagel maybe whole wheat? It sounds like you might benefit from trying the gluten-free diet. You don't have to have celiac disease for it to do you good.

Thanks for replying... egg was the first thing I thought to check too... The bagel was a plain bagel by Sara Lee, white.... so was the hambuger bun. I just can't really see that much of a difference between the items to see. I suppose the bagel might have had egg in it, but I can't find a list of ingredients. The burger bun just doesn't seem that much different from the bread, but it just really fit the typical reaction to a food sensitivity. It's just weird... I've had several items today containing wheat, gluten, soy, and dairy without any problems.

I dislike the idea of putting my family through a gluten-free diet IF there's no need to... but obviously there was something in that bread. :(

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Thanks for replying... egg was the first thing I thought to check too... The bagel was a plain bagel by Sara Lee, white.... so was the hambuger bun. I just can't really see that much of a difference between the items to see. I suppose the bagel might have had egg in it, but I can't find a list of ingredients. The burger bun just doesn't seem that much different from the bread, but it just really fit the typical reaction to a food sensitivity. It's just weird... I've had several items today containing wheat, gluten, soy, and dairy without any problems.

I dislike the idea of putting my family through a gluten-free diet IF there's no need to... but obviously there was something in that bread. :(

Another thing to think about is that a gluten reaction can happen any time up to 3 or 4 days after ingesting the gluten. So it may very well be that when it appeared that you were reacting to the bagel or to the wheat bread that you were in fact reacting to something you had eaten days earlier. If you want to investigate further, there are certainly other tests to try, including genetic tests and stool tests available on the Internet. Google, or look around on this discussion board for further info.

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Hmm... i didn't know that... makes you wonder tho. I haven't had anything "bad" for me all day, but just had a scoop of slim fast shake in a smoothie and instantly have severe, painful gas. So it was like a holy sh** moment of what the hell am I allergic to now... or was there secretly eggs in it... and there's not, but it does say it may contain wheat. It's the only "wheat" i've had all day... related? i don't know... but I know i've been having less and less as I cut out carbs for dieting, so if there is a sensitivity, i'm certainly reducing my tolerance just by dieting.

thoughts?

thank you, since i haven't said it already, for helping and the insight!

best, jennifer

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Hmm... i didn't know that... makes you wonder tho. I haven't had anything "bad" for me all day, but just had a scoop of slim fast shake in a smoothie and instantly have severe, painful gas. So it was like a holy sh** moment of what the hell am I allergic to now... or was there secretly eggs in it... and there's not, but it does say it may contain wheat. It's the only "wheat" i've had all day... related? i don't know... but I know i've been having less and less as I cut out carbs for dieting, so if there is a sensitivity, i'm certainly reducing my tolerance just by dieting.

thoughts?

thank you, since i haven't said it already, for helping and the insight!

best, jennifer

Did the allergist test you for dairy allergies? And you're quite welcome.

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Another thing to think about is that a gluten reaction can happen any time up to 3 or 4 days after ingesting the gluten. So it may very well be that when it appeared that you were reacting to the bagel or to the wheat bread that you were in fact reacting to something you had eaten days earlier. If you want to investigate further, there are certainly other tests to try, including genetic tests and stool tests available on the Internet. Google, or look around on this discussion board for further info.

Gluten reaction can happen 3 or 4 days after ingesting? This is interesting. I'm they type that really doesnt react right away like some. I'm more of a 2-3 days later. Ugh....Good to know. Thanks

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Nausea is one of my symptoms when I accidentally ingest gluten. In fact, it was my worst symptom. You could try taking it out of your diet for 2 weeks and see how you feel.

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