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"fell Off The Wagon"


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KaitiUSA Enthusiast

3 Muskateers are gluten free Sally :D


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Rikki Tikki Explorer

Thanks Kaiti. I don't know why I have always thought they had gluten

Nadtorious Rookie

To reiterate and add my 2 cents to this argument, I can't really relate to people who don't have time to be gluten free. Granted, I don't have children, but I work full time, go to school, train for and race mountain bikes, sew, and maintain a fairly active social life. If and when I am ever glutened, everything stops. I might be able to crawl around at work, but seriously, life comes to a standstill til it's out of my system. Since going gluten free 3 years ago, I have become so much more productive and actually interested in life. I can't imagine giving up my wonderful health these days for convenience.

I can empathize with folks who experience very mild to no symptoms, but only to a point. If you're showing signs of osteoporosis or anemia, damage is being done. But we all know that.

I don't live off convenience foods. I make everything from scratch, and yes, sometimes it is a pain in the butt, but what are my other options? I feel so much better now. We could be much worse off, and for those who are not sticking to their diet, you're just asking for trouble. Life tastes a whole lot better than pizza.

Sorry if I offended anyone. We're all in the same boat.

Peace-Nadia

ianm Apprentice

Well said Nadia. We just can't afford to sacrifice our health for the sake of convenience. It really doesn't take as much effort as some like to believe to maintain a healthy diet. Time management skills are something you are just going to have to discipline yourself to have. The few minutes you save eating glutenized processed crap is not worth it. The two minutes you save now is going to drastically reduce the quantity and quality of the years remaining in your life. The gluten-free lifestyle takes some work but it is worth it to not just you but your loved ones as well. So quit talking about it and just do it!

tarnalberry Community Regular

For everyone who says that some people just don't have the will power that other people do, please remember that will power is not some inate gift - it's a skill learned by practice. You CAN have strong will power, just by saying no one temptation at a time. Missing one doesn't put you back at the starting gate, it's just a little ground to recover.

Nadtorious Rookie

Well said Tiffany :rolleyes:

lovegrov Collaborator

I'm walking proof that willpower can be learned. I'm not a very disciplined person and I thought I had very little willpower, but in the past three years I've quit eating gluten, quit smoking, quit drinking, and lost 25 pounds. If I can do it...

richard


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ianm Apprentice

It just depends on how badly you want to be healthy. The few moments of pleasure you get from cheating is not worth the long term health problems you most certainly will suffer. Eating gluten when you are angry or upset to get at somebody else does them no harm but it does harm you.

Rikki Tikki Explorer

I think that has been well said by all of you. I wanted to let all of you know I will be off the boards for awhile. I have been very sick the last few weeks. It's not celiac disease but I am going to my mom's for awhile until I see a doctor at UCSF. I will miss all your posts and the support each of you have given me.

:D

ianm Apprentice

I wish you well. I've enjoyed your posts and let us know how you are doing as soon as you can.

cmom Contributor

I wish you well Sally and hope you are feeling better soon. Mom's are great when we're ill, even at my age (45)!

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Sally.

No, they don't sell the meat. What I do is bring my own bread. I don't see why anyone in Subway wouldn't make a sandwich for you if you bring in your own bread and explain why.

Ed

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