Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Newbie In Need Of Advice


wildcatboy

Recommended Posts

wildcatboy Newbie

Hello everyone. It seems I have now become a member of a community I consider a double edged sword. I am happy to have traced the origin of some of my issues, but un-happy to be giving up some of my favorite foods.

I have had digestive issues for roughly 7-8 years. My mom claims I have never had issues with going to the bathroom, since I was little...but the last 8 years have been harder than the previous 20. I am 28 and like I said have always seems to have a slight 'urgency' to get to a restroom. In high school/college this symptom seemed to magnify. <insert beer drinking> :( Now that I am am in the work world its a down right nuance. I have been to my family doctor and 2 years ago a digestive 'specialist' diagnosed me with IBS. Terrific, right?...well no matter how bland of food I ate, I was still running to the restroom. He had me try a dairy free diet, he prescribed me all kinds of expensive drugs...no dice.

Which brings me to 2011. With the turn of the new year I decided enough was enough. I had my suspicions related to Gluten, but the doctor assured me that was not it. Well, I took matter into my own hands and as of January 2nd I have been as Gluten Free as possible. I will say it has not been perfect, but I have had leaps and bounds, more good days than bad. Where as before I was in a bathroom routine, of just dealing with loose stool and occasional migraines.

My question...its been 23 days now. I would say I have had 18 good days and 5 bad. Does this mean I am gluten intolerant? or is the change due to a diet change and nothing more? Are the 5 bad days due to my uneducated diet? I try but i'm sure, not perfect as I learn more every day.

Also, I have have noticed that milk may be cause some of these 'bad days'. Am I allergic to milk too? or is this just a sensitivity in the intestine as it heals?

Thanks in advance. This forum really is a wealth of knowledge.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Dixiebell Contributor

Hi wildcatboy, welcome to the forum.

Have you had any celiac testing?

A good test, though a Dr. might not diagnose you based on this, would be for you to be strictly gluten-free for three months and then do a gluten challenge by eating a normal gluten filled diet for several days and see if you have any reactions. Taking milk products out in the begining and adding them later is a good idea.

Also replacing your toaster, collander, wooden kitchen utensils, cutting boards, scratched teflon pans and re-seasoning cast iron pans would a good idea. Make sure to check your meds and supplements for gluten too.

It is a major learning curve but definately do-able.

GFinDC Veteran

Milk is a problem for lots of celiacs at the beginning of the gluten-free diet. You may be able to eat it successfully after you have healed for a few months. Ups and downs and GI issues are not rare at the start either. There are lots of ways to slip up and eat gluten or get a little cc (cross-contamination) by accident. Eating mostly whole foods instead of processed foods will make it simpler to avoid gluten. Be careful of spice blends and vitamins and meds that may have gluten or dairy in them. You might want to try taking out soy also if your symptoms don't resolve after a few months on a whole foods diet.

wildcatboy Newbie

I always read people on this forum referring to 'healing'.

Is there a time period it takes for your to heal or it does it vary widely depending on the person and the severity of the G-intolerance?

Also, if I suspect milk, does that mean I need to remove all dairy from my diet? I.E. cheeses, and dairy?

GFinDC Veteran

Healing time does vary by the person. How well you manage your gluten-free diet has a huge impact on the healing time.

I suggest removing all dairy for a few weeks and see if it makes any difference. If you don't find any difference then it is probably not an issue for you.

mushroom Proficient

Well, I would disagree with gluten-free to the extent that lactose intolerance and casein intolerance are different issues and involve different enzymes. Lactose is most concentrated in milk, cream and ice cream. If you remove those and improve, but not entirely, you can try removing cheese and yogurt too, but most of us don't have to go the whole nine yards with all dairy, just the lactose because the enzyme to digest that is made in the small intestine.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - trents replied to SilkieFairy's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      IBS-D vs Celiac

    2. - SilkieFairy replied to SilkieFairy's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      IBS-D vs Celiac

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,338
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Erica Johnson
    Newest Member
    Erica Johnson
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      No coincidence. Recent revisions to gluten challenge guidelines call for the daily consumption of at least 10g of gluten (about the amount in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for a minimum of 3 weeks. If possible, I would extend that two weeks to ensure valid testing.
    • SilkieFairy
      Thank you both for the replies. I decided to bring back gluten so I can do the blood test. Today is Day #2 of the Challenge. Yesterday I had about 3 slices of whole wheat bread and I woke up with urgent diarrhea this morning. It was orange, sandy and had the distinctive smell that I did not have when I was briefly gluten free. I don't know if it's a coincidence, but the brain fog is back and I feel very tired.   
    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.