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Anyone try fasting for a couple of days to empty everything in the body after being glutened.

I messed up so badly, I cant figure out what I'm doing wrong, so I decided to fast for 3-4 days with liquids/vitamins. Clean out my body and start slowly with food...My husband thinks I've finally lost it!!!! I dont know what else to do...

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Anyone try fasting for a couple of days to empty everything in the body after being glutened.

I messed up so badly, I cant figure out what I'm doing wrong, so I decided to fast for 3-4 days with liquids/vitamins. Clean out my body and start slowly with food...My husband thinks I've finally lost it!!!! I dont know what else to do...

I do not fast. What I do is eliminate all food except what is on my known safe foods list.It may take a week or more before I feel ready to add other foods back.

Unfortunately I have had to rely on the list quite often .

kenlove Rising Star
kenlove
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I've done a green juice fast for up to a week and although hard the first time, I felt a zillion times better.

You really reboot your system and taste buds. Celery will taste salty by itself! simple plain food was much better than befor after a fast.

good luck

Anyone try fasting for a couple of days to empty everything in the body after being glutened.

I messed up so badly, I cant figure out what I'm doing wrong, so I decided to fast for 3-4 days with liquids/vitamins. Clean out my body and start slowly with food...My husband thinks I've finally lost it!!!! I dont know what else to do...

eatmeat4good Enthusiast
eatmeat4good
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I fast when glutened...only drink water until all symptoms have passed. Oh, and vitamins too.

I have tried eating safe foods but I don't feel well at all if I have been glutened, so for me fasting 2 or 3 days works best.

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cahill
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I fast when glutened...only drink water until all symptoms have passed. Oh, and vitamins too.

I have tried eating safe foods but I don't feel well at all if I have been glutened, so for me fasting 2 or 3 days works best.

are your symptoms more digestive or neurological??

I ask this because my reaction is mostly (about 85%)neurological so I am wondering if that is why not fasting but staying with my safe foods list works for me

dube Contributor
dube
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are your symptoms more digestive or neurological??

I ask this because my reaction is mostly (about 85%)neurological so I am wondering if that is why not fasting but staying with my safe foods list works for me

I have both...mostly the big D...but also anxiety, tremors, zaps, titches..I can go on....

I know I screwed up..Applebee's twice, chicken wings with a spice rub(not a good idea), cornmeal from quaker...as you can see, I'm alittle new at this...not to mention cc...never new it was such an issue. I use the same toaster and stuff with my kids.

I also think I'm having a problem with soda...so I'm alittle confused right now. I have never been officially diagnosed. My bloodtest came out negative and my doctor dropped the whole thing. Went on a gluten-free diet six months ago and I could tell I was doing better...guess I just got careless...big time!

Ive been fasting as of tonight for 72 hours, besides coffee, tea and water. I think I'm done going to the bathroom, but my stomach feels like a pinball machine.

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I know that pinball machine feeling! Had to give up coffee which was not fun since I grow it in Kona but cant drink it anymore. That was a big difference especially with the D> It is a laxative. If you go gluten-free you really need to do it all the way with no cross contamination from shared toasters and colanders etc. I guess from my perspective, if one is fully celiac, being a little bit gluten free is like being a little bit pregnant.

good luck

I have both...mostly the big D...but also anxiety, tremors, zaps, titches..I can go on....

I know I screwed up..Applebee's twice, chicken wings with a spice rub(not a good idea), cornmeal from quaker...as you can see, I'm alittle new at this...not to mention cc...never new it was such an issue. I use the same toaster and stuff with my kids.

I also think I'm having a problem with soda...so I'm alittle confused right now. I have never been officially diagnosed. My bloodtest came out negative and my doctor dropped the whole thing. Went on a gluten-free diet six months ago and I could tell I was doing better...guess I just got careless...big time!

Ive been fasting as of tonight for 72 hours, besides coffee, tea and water. I think I'm done going to the bathroom, but my stomach feels like a pinball machine.

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eatmeat4good Enthusiast
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are your symptoms more digestive or neurological??

I ask this because my reaction is mostly (about 85%)neurological so I am wondering if that is why not fasting but staying with my safe foods list works for me

I have it all when I am glutened. My DH sores hurt, I get despair, depression, anxiety, Diarrhea, nausea, migraines, fatigue and sleepiness beyond fatigue...I can't describe it.

I cannot possibly eat...so I fast...and try to sleep it off.

When I got really careful about CC it happened WAY less. I had a hard time believing CC could do all of that to me. But I am a solid believer now. And very careful because I so fear those bad reactions and wasted days.

dube Contributor
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Fasting for now 72 hours..nothing left in me but mucas. Stomach rumbling is starting to let up. So I will start adding foods one at a time too see. Frutose might be a problem. I've been drinking alot of coke/pepsi for the past two months, which I normally don't. I'm a coffee, tea, water girl myself!) I had mucas awhile back after I ate Bush Beans.....sauerkraut that kind of stuff. I think this stuff is high in frutose....

dube Contributor
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Morning going on 4th day of fasting and I just had alittle "D"...can you believe that. I cant believe I still have anything in me!

Jestgar Rising Star
Jestgar
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Would you consider consuming probiotics now and then? It seems like your gut flora might be really screwed up, and if you could re-establish the correct bacteria it might help things even out.

GFinDC Veteran
GFinDC
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I use milk of magnesia to clear core after a glutening. I don't want to wait days for my system to get the poison out of me.

sb2178 Enthusiast
sb2178
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So, long-term fasting is actually pretty awful for you if you have D. You can screw up your salts levels and have issues ranging from just passing out due to low blood pressure to more complex issues with your brain and organ failure. Heart and kidneys can fail in less than a week if you are susceptible although that is not typical in someone who is healthy. Kidney failure is often silent, though, so...

It's not a bad idea to go light for a few days, though. I do when I get sick. Maybe work on reintroducing some liquids first, then white rice or boiled potatoes, applesauce, mashed sweet potatoes, etc. Chicken broth is good. Apple juice is fine. Gartorade type things also work. Poached shredded chicken or turkey tends to be not too hard to digest. I think everyone has their staples they return to when feeling not so steady.

T.H. Community Regular
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Morning going on 4th day of fasting and I just had alittle "D"...can you believe that. I cant believe I still have anything in me!

It's bizarre when that happens, isn't it?

I ended up fasting a few times just because I felt so miserable and nauseated, but I ended up having water with a little fruit juice that I juiced myself, just to be sure. At first, I used to think I was having a stomach flu, LOL. Mine turned out to just be neuro for my gluten issues, and I had unknown food allergies for the nausea. Who knew? I don't get hives, just headaches and a miserable gut from the food allergies.

coffee gets me, some of the teas would make me sick (some had barley, some were made in facilities or on machines with other teas that had barley :-P), and coke and pepsi - oh man, just might as well shoot me, waaah.

Also, you might want to check out trying some whole foods rather than processed and see if that helps? Many (but not all) of the people here with neurological symptoms I have noticed seem a little more sensitive to gluten than the average. Sometimes the gluten free food has too much gluten (because it's not actually gluten 'free,' it's 'really, really, really low gluten.' And not low 'enough' gluten for a few of us).

Whole veggies, fruits, and meats at first, maybe? Dairy if you can tolerate it (many new gluten free folks are dairy intolerant), or eggs?

Whole grains, nuts, and beans have a higher gluten cc risk. They can say they are 'naturally' gluten free, which basically means that if you grew it in your yard, it would be gluten free. But they share harvesters, shipping trucks, mills, processing plants - so it can actually get contaminated lots of points along the way. If you react to one of these, I'd trust yourself and not the 'naturally gluten free' label, honestly.

There are places that do test their grain products, though, like Lundberg rice and Bob's red mill, so they might be a safer bet for a lower gluten content, at first. Nuts in the shell would probably be safer too, at first. Make sure to wash your produce with soap and water, because you never know who touched it before you in the store (or what they had on their hands, like gluten, potentially).

Also, some celiacs react to gluten free oats just as though they were wheat, rye, or barley, so that can be a problem, because it's not included in the 'gluten free' label usually, and is actually often processed with other gluten free foods, so if you are unsure about how you do with gluten-free oats, you may want to be careful.

And...sorry to kind of wander off topic from the fasting, LOL. Just be careful and hoping you feel better!

Oh...and might want to keep an eye on your vitamins - many gluten-free vitamins don't test their product for gluten content at all. They just don't add any 'on purpose' and so they say it's gluten-free. <_< So they can be gluten cc'd, too.

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      The biopsy looks for damage to the mucosal lining of the small bowel from the inflammation caused by celiac disease when gluten is ingested. Once you remove gluten from the diet, inflammation subsides and the mucosal lining begins to heal. 
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