Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Mind Games


cait

Recommended Posts

cait Apprentice

I went gluten-free after years of chronic pain and fatigue just to see if it would help, since nothing else has. My dad has celiac, so it was always in the back of my mind, though my tests were negative. It helped. Remarkably. It seems that I'm becoming more and more sensitive to trace amounts of gluten, which I know is normal. But discovering this means that I've been feeling crappy a lot. On Saturday I ate a salad with peppers that were chopped on an old cutting board that certainly had been used for bread more than once in its life (I wasn't at home and decided to risk it). I've felt lousy every since.

And yet, I can't shake this annoying self-doubt since I never had a positive test. Part of me is still not convinced that I really, truly am gluten intolerant/celiac. Like I'm making it up or something. Or that all the improvements and lapses have been coincidence, and there's something else responsible for it all. And, I think, at times that makes it harder to be firm about what I can or can't have without feeling like I'm being a terrible hypochondriac or imposing horribly on someone. Or I feel like people think I'm just a crazy health nut trying out the latest fad.

Is this just another one of those things that takes time? Will I eventually believe this and trust myself? Or am I just hopeless and crazy? Also, is there anything I can do when I run into yet another thing that makes me feel like crap? Taking a long time to feel better this time.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Takala Enthusiast

One of the symptoms of being glutened is ..... a fuzzier thinking process. :rolleyes:

One of the symptoms of true gluten intolerance and/or celiac is that if you give it up, you do become more sensitive to trace amounts over time.

Q. Is there anything I can do ?

A. Yeah. Don't let socializing be an excuse for making yourself sick. There is the accidental glutening where you and everyone makes the best possible effort, and somehow it happens anyway (like the manufacturer apparently mislabels a bad batch of gluten free that makes you sick, or the spouse has it on his hands and then does not think.... ) and then there is risk- taking because you're interacting with the glutenoids. Sometimes it has consequences, and sometimes it does not.

There is a terrific pressure in our society to conform. Your long term survival, because you are in the class of a health issue minority, depends on whether or not you can stand up to that pressure.

Di2011 Enthusiast

HI Cait,

I think you are feeling 'normal'.. under the circumstances. I'm waiting to hear about my first blood test and hope it will be positive because a negative is not going to be easy to handle(actually harder for my Mum who is a doubter). In the moments (many of them!!) when my brain starts to go like a crazy rollercoaster :unsure: I tell myself the result won't matter. I'm sick, insanely itchy but not as bad as I was until a couple of days ago (No wheat since the blood test on Friday). So I think I will probably scrap the glutens even if it is negative. It will be nice to feel okay for a while :D

Have you had/Can you have a good talk to your Dad about how he has coped with the Disease and the change in lifestyle?

I don't know anyone personally who has it which is why reading posts here has been some comfort.

anabananakins Explorer

I think that even if your tests were negative, with a dad with celiac there's a really good chance that you do have it and the tests were wrong. Or maybe they'd never come positive but you do have a clear reaction. Don't beat yourself up over it. We have a tendency to give more validation to an official diagnosis, but I think a diagnosis is very often stating the obvious, we just don't trust ourselves to be able to do that. You got better when you went gluten free, you feel sick if you get contaminated, you have a family history of celiac disease.

I understand where the self-doubt comes from because I tested negative and even my genetic testing didn't indicate celiac. Meh, whatever. I feel amazingly better not eating it and a trace makes me double-over in pain. A year gluten free and that's enough for me. The confidence definitely took time to develop, especially when people specifically ask me if I have celiac disease. My stock response "no, strangely the tests were negative but I was encouraged to go gluten free and had an amazing response, I wouldn't eat gluten now for anything. Apparently it's quite common for the tests to be false, and since there's no drug cure, research is behind in this area". This reply tends to generate responses along the lines of "wow, interesting. Glad you're feeling better, good for you!". Oh, some people reply "I could never do that, I'd die if I gave up bread!" but I just smile. It's not like anyone can truly force me to eat something I don't want to eat and if it got to that (i.e., literally holding me down and shoving bread down my throat) well, I'd be making a nice phone call to the police ;-)

It sounds like now is the time to be more careful about cross contamination. Ditch those chopping boards and anything else that could be a culprit. If there's a chance that things like baking powder have been contaminated, give them away. I hope you feel better soon.

Harpgirl Explorer

I'm still waiting for my test results, but even if they come back negative, I'm still convinced I have celiac. Going gluten free has helped with my pain tremendously and as I read further, so many other symptoms are fitting.

A false negative is very common, it can even be caused by a lab tech who hasn't seen the celiac test before and runs it wrong. Apparently, it's not a common blood test, most techs have little experience with it.

Diane-in-FL Explorer

One of the symptoms of being glutened is ..... a fuzzier thinking process. :rolleyes:

One of the symptoms of true gluten intolerance and/or celiac is that if you give it up, you do become more sensitive to trace amounts over time.

Q. Is there anything I can do ?

A. Yeah. Don't let socializing be an excuse for making yourself sick. There is the accidental glutening where you and everyone makes the best possible effort, and somehow it happens anyway (like the manufacturer apparently mislabels a bad batch of gluten free that makes you sick, or the spouse has it on his hands and then does not think.... ) and then there is risk- taking because you're interacting with the glutenoids. Sometimes it has consequences, and sometimes it does not.

There is a terrific pressure in our society to conform. Your long term survival, because you are in the class of a health issue minority, depends on whether or not you can stand up to that pressure.

Interacting with gluenoids.......love it! How clever! :lol:

Lori2 Contributor

Having a negative celiac panel always made me question myself. However, I don't have a problem now after reading this study published this spring. I thought celiac.com had an article about it, but I can't find it now.

"Divergence of gut permeability and mucosal immune gene expression in two gluten-associated conditions: celiac disease and gluten sensitivity"

Open Original Shared Link


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



sandsurfgirl Collaborator

Were you gluten light when you got tested? My son who is 7 was negative on blood about 6 months ago but he ate a lot of what I ate gluten free. He chose to go gluten free cuz he was sick of being sick. Now trace CC gets him bad. So... he is a celiac. People don't get 3 days of diarrhea from one tiny milky way bite size like my son did at Halloween if they don't have celiac. You wouldn't get positive results from the diet if you didn't have celiac.

My husband is not celiac. Gluten doesn't bother him and going gluten light cuz our house is gluten free has had no effect on him at all.

You have celiac . Embrace it. Own it. You don't want to eat gluten again and make yourself sick enough to get that positive test.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,928
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Grams H
    Newest Member
    Grams H
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • lehum
      Hi and thank you very much for your detailed response! I am so glad that the protocol worked so well for you and helped you to get your health back on track. I've heard of it helping other people too. One question I have is how did you maintain your weight on this diet? I really rely on nuts and rice to keep me at a steady weight because I tend to lose weight quickly and am having a hard time envisioning how to make it work, especially when not being able to eat things like nuts and avocados. In case you have any input, woud be great to hear it! Friendly greetings.
    • Hmart
      I was not taking any medications previous to this. I was a healthy 49 yo with some mild stomach discomfort. I noticed the onset of tinnitus earlier this year and I had Covid at the end of June. My first ‘flare-up’ with these symptoms was in August and I was eating gluten like normal. I had another flare-up in September and then got an upper endo at the end of September that showed possible celiac. My blood test came a week later. While I didn’t stop eating gluten before I had the blood test, I had cut back on food and gluten both. I had a flare-up with this symptoms after one week of gluten free but wasn’t being crazy careful. Then I had another flare-up this week. I think it might have been caused by Trader Joe’s baked tofu which I didn’t realize had wheat. But I don’t know if these flare-ups are caused by gluten or if there’s something else going on. I am food journaling and tracking all symptoms. I have lost 7 pounds in the last 10 days. 
    • trents
      Welcome to the forum, @Hmart! There are other medical conditions besides celiac disease that can cause villous atrophy as well as some medications and for some people, the dairy protein casein. So, your question is a valid one. Especially in view of the fact that your antibody testing was negative, though there are also some seronegative celiacs. So, do you get reactions every time you consume gluten? If you were to purposely consume a slice of bread would you be certain to develop the symptoms you describe?
    • klmgarland
    • DebJ14
      I only went on the multi vitamin AFTER a couple of year of high dose, targeted supplementation resolved most of my deficiencies.  I was on quite a cocktail of vitamins that was changed every 6 months as my deficiencies resolved.  Those that were determined to be genetic are still addressed with specific doses of those vitamins, minerals and amino acids. I have an update on my husband and his A Fib.  He ended up in the hospital in August 2025 when his A Fib would not convert.  He took the maximum dose of Flecainide allowed within a 24 hour period.  It was a nightmare experience!  They took him into the ER immediately.  They put in a line, drew blood, did an EKG and chest Xray all within minutes.  Never saw another human for 6 hours.  Never got any results, but obviously we could see he was still in A fib by watching the monitor.  They have the family sign up for text alerts at the ER desk.  So glad I did.  That is the only way we found out that he was being admitted.  About an hour after that text someone came to take him to his room on an observation floor.  We were there two hours before we saw another human being and believe it or not that was by zoom on the TV in the room.  It was admissions wanting to know his vaccine status and confirming his insurance, which we provided at the ER desk.  They said someone would be in and finally a nurse arrived.  He was told a hospitalist was in charge of his case.  Finally the NP for the hospitalist showed up and my husband literally blew his stack.  He got so angry and yelled at this poor woman, but it was exactly what he needed to convert himself to sinus rhythm while she was there.  They got an EKG machine and confirmed it.  She told him that they wanted to keep him overnight and would do an echo in the morning and they were concerned about a wound on his leg and wanted to do a doppler to make sure he did not have a DVT.  He agreed.  The echo showed everything fine, just as it was at his annual check up in June and there was no DVT.  A cardiologist finally showed up to discharge him and after reviewing his history said the A Fib was due to the Amoxicillan prescribed for his leg wound.  It both triggers A Fib and prevents the Flecainide from working.  His conversion coincided with the last dose of antibiotic getting out of his system.  So, make sure your PCP understands what antibiotics you can or cannot take if susceptible to A Fib.  This cardiologist (not his regular) wanted him on Metoprolol 25 mg and Pradaxa.  My husband told him that his cardiologist axed the idea of a beta blocker because his heart rate is already low.  Sure enough, it dropped to 42 on the Metoprolol and my husband felt horrible.  The pradaxa gave him a full body rash!  He went back to his cardiologist for follow up and his BP was fine and heart rate in the mid 50's.  He also axed the Pradaxa since my husband has low platelets, bruises easily and gets bloody noses just from Fish Oil  He suggested he take Black Cumin Seed Oil for inflammation.  He discovered that by taking the Black Seed oil, he can eat carbs and not go into A Fib, since it does such a good job of reducing inflammation.   Oh and I forgot to say the hospital bill was over $26,000.  Houston Methodist!  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.