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Pvcs And Supplement Advice

jmrogers31

By jmrogers31
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jmrogers31 Contributor
jmrogers31
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I have a question here. I have been seeing a great doctor who not only buys into Celiac, he actively promotes limiting grains and sugars to everyone he sees. I have been having really strong heartbeats or PVCs as there called and he gave me a supplement to help with these and says they have helped him with the same issue and cleared it up for him. Here is the desciption of what the food based supplement does:

Cataplex B supports physical and nervous system health.

Supports healthy heart electrical conductivity

Stimulatory to the metabolic, cardiovascular, and central/peripheral nervous systems

Supports energy production in all cells

Supports healthy cholesterol levels already within a normal range

Contains B-complex vitamins to support healthy muscle action

Supports healthy homocysteine levels

The first one in bold is the one he said helps with the PVCs and hard heart beats. I trust this doctor and really want to give this a try because I hate having my heart beat out of sync and it make me anxious. The problem is here are the components of the vitamin:

Bovine liver, nutritional yeast, porcine duodenum, defatted wheat (germ), carrot (root), beet (root), dried beet (root) juice, oat flour, choline bitartrate, rice (bran), bovine adrenal, para-aminobenzoate, soybean lecithin, mixed tocopherols (soy), ascorbic acid, manganese lactate, phosphoric acid, inositol, and riboflavin

He thinks I will be okay on the supplements but I don't know. Would you try them or not?

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sa1937 Community Regular
sa1937
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Personally I wouldn't touch anything with defatted wheat germ or oat flour. You don't need to try and get rid of one problem and then gluten yourself with a new med.

peeptoad Apprentice
peeptoad
Posted

I have PVCs as well and my doctor didn't tell me anything (except that they were benign and not to worry about them). I didn't realize there were supplements one could take. :(

Anyway, I wouldn't take those based on the ingredient list (and not only for the gluten ingredients), but others may have differing opinions.

jmrogers31 Contributor
jmrogers31
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Yeah, I tend to agree but unfortunetely already purchased 3 weeks worth before I researched the ingredients. I called him the next day and he said it is a concentrated amount and very small. He said he has had other Celiac and gluten intolerent patients use them with no issues. I think I may pass though. Peeptoad, what other ingredients give you pause here?

mushroom Proficient
mushroom
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I agree with peeptoad. I have italixized the additional ingredients (which would probably give me PVC's :P)

Bovine liver, nutritional yeast, porcine duodenum, defatted wheat (germ), carrot (root), beet (root), dried beet (root) juice, oat flour, choline bitartrate, rice (bran), bovine adrenal, para-aminobenzoate, soybean lecithin, mixed tocopherols (soy), ascorbic acid, manganese lactate, phosphoric acid, inositol, and riboflavin

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ravenwoodglass
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Yeah, I tend to agree but unfortunetely already purchased 3 weeks worth before I researched the ingredients. I called him the next day and he said it is a concentrated amount and very small. He said he has had other Celiac and gluten intolerent patients use them with no issues. I think I may pass though. Peeptoad, what other ingredients give you pause here?

Gee he sounds just like the Naturopathic doctor I saw that I spent hundreds of dollars for visits and 'supplements' with who poisoned me with everything he gave me. Cause 'just a little bit won't hurt'.

Tell him you can't take them and ask if he will let you return them. If he won't find a new doctor and tell him why you won't be seeing him anymore.

Blue-eyed bandit Apprentice
Blue-eyed bandit
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Seriously I wouldn't consider it because all that bovine is pig- plus I read in a great book by a celiac dr. (he has celiac and treats it) from Columbia University that it only takes 1/8 a teaspoon of gluten containing foods or just gluten ( I'm not exactly sure which it is but I know it's 1/8 which is equivalent to a pinch) to cause continual intestinal damage. It's just not worth it- I visit another forum that is a support group for people who suffer from paplitations some get thousands a day. If you want the name pm me. Magnesium supplements have really helped people with palpitations as well as other things. I get palps too and I hate them!

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I would not take that supplement. I don't think that doctor buys into celiac as well as you think he does. Mine has told me to check pills and everything.

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