Jump to content
  • You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

What Does This Mean?


roxieb73

Recommended Posts

roxieb73 Contributor

ENDOMYSIAL ANTIBODY SCR (IGA) W/REFL TO TITER

Does it mean they found the antibody even if the test is negative? If so how can a test be negative if the antibody is present? I was under the impression the only place you see this is with Celiac. Ughhh


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



mushroom Proficient

What else was on the result sheet besides what you posted? Either before or after? They did not give any result.

roxieb73 Contributor

What else was on the result sheet besides what you posted? Either before or after? They did not give any result.

It just said negative

MitziG Enthusiast

Well you didn't get a full celiac panel if they only checked endomysial antibodies. They should also do ttg IGA,, ttg IGG, total IGA and Deamidated Gluten Peptides. I would go back to the doctor and insist on the full panel- one test, albeit a specific one, is not enough to rule out Celiac.

roxieb73 Contributor

Well you didn't get a full celiac panel if they only checked endomysial antibodies. They should also do ttg IGA,, ttg IGG, total IGA and Deamidated Gluten Peptides. I would go back to the doctor and insist on the full panel- one test, albeit a specific one, is not enough to rule out Celiac.

I will do it than k you Mitzi! I won't have to argue with him. He already thinks we got a false negative. My doctor is pretty convinced Celiac is what my problem is.

Sieben Rookie

Are false negatives that common on the endomysial IGA test?

beachbirdie Contributor

ENDOMYSIAL ANTIBODY SCR (IGA) W/REFL TO TITER

Does it mean they found the antibody even if the test is negative? If so how can a test be negative if the antibody is present? I was under the impression the only place you see this is with Celiac. Ughhh

The test is negative. When it says "reflex to titer" it means they will perform dilutions to find out how strongly positive it is, if they find antibodies. If it is negative (they don't find antibodies), they will not perform the dilutions.

They did not do complete testing. You should have the complete panel mentioned by others. Many people with celiac, those who are not sero-negative, will only test positive on one of the tests. Though anti-EMA is supposed to be one of the best indicators of tissue damage, that can be negative in people with celiac. Hope that makes sense!

The negative EMA test doesn't rule out celiac. Thankfully your doc is on board and will test further.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



roxieb73 Contributor

The test is negative. When it says "reflex to titer" it means they will perform dilutions to find out how strongly positive it is, if they find antibodies. If it is negative (they don't find antibodies), they will not perform the dilutions.

They did not do complete testing. You should have the complete panel mentioned by others. Many people with celiac, those who are not sero-negative, will only test positive on one of the tests. Though anti-EMA is supposed to be one of the best indicators of tissue damage, that can be negative in people with celiac. Hope that makes sense!

The negative EMA test doesn't rule out celiac. Thankfully your doc is on board and will test further.

Now it makes sense thank you! I have already had blood drawn for HLA typing and if they come back positive then will have a biposy and repeat antibody tests. I am currently eating gluten in preparation for that. If it is negative then all this testing will come to an end.

ravenwoodglass Mentor

Now it makes sense thank you! I have already had blood drawn for HLA typing and if they come back positive then will have a biposy and repeat antibody tests. I am currently eating gluten in preparation for that. If it is negative then all this testing will come to an end.

Once all your testing is done do try the diet no matter what the gene and other tests show. Gene tests are only a small part of the picture as folks can have the associated genes and not have celiac and people can have celiac and not have one of the two most commonly associated genes.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      134,084
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      10,442

    Melvac
    Newest Member
    Melvac
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.7k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Aretaeus Cappadocia
      Sigh. I posted this yesterday based on the Safeway website. I went back again today to their website to double check. On the page where they are selling Vanilla Bean flavor, it has a distinct Certified Gluten Free label. Other flavors on the Safeway website didn't have the gluten-free statement. Today I went into the store. None of the flavors I looked at, including Vanilla Bean, have a Gluten Free statement. Is it safe? Who knows. The ingredients are either safe or nearly safe (some have "natural flavor"). There are warnings about "contains milk and soy" but not about wheat - this implies they are safe, but again, who knows. On the other hand, every flavor I checked of their Slow Churn line of ice creams has wheat as an ingredient. 100% not safe.
    • knitty kitty
      Do keep in mind that many of the newly diagnosed have lactose intolerance.  This is because the villi lining the intestinal tract are damaged, and can no longer make the enzyme lactAse which breaks down the milk sugar lactOse.  When the villi grow back (six months to two years), they can again produce the enzyme lactAse, and lactose intolerance is resolved.  However, some people (both those with and without Celiac Disease) are genetically programmed to stop producing lactase as they age.   Do be aware that many processed foods, including ice cream, use Microbial Transglutaminase, a food additive commonly called "meat glue," used to enhance texture and flavor.  This microbial transglutaminase has the same immunogenicity as tissue transglutaminase which the body produces in response to gluten in people with Celiac Disease.  Tissue Transglutaminase (tTg IgA) is measured to diagnose Celiac Disease in blood tests.  Microbial Transglutaminase acts the same as Tissue Transglutaminase, causing increased intestinal permeability and inflammation.   New findings show that microbial transglutaminase may be able to trigger Celiac Disease and other autoimmune and neurodegenerative diseases.   Microbial Transglutaminase is not required to be listed on ingredients labels as it's considered a processing aid, not an ingredient in the U.S.  Microbial Transglutaminase has been GRAS for many years, but that GRAS standing is being questioned more and more as the immunogenicity of microbial transglutaminase is being discovered. Interesting Reading:  Microbial Transglutaminase Is a Very Frequently Used Food Additive and Is a Potential Inducer of Autoimmune/Neurodegenerative Diseases https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8537092/
    • Aretaeus Cappadocia
      There is a 10 year old post in this forum on Edy's and Dreyer's ice cream. The information is somewhat outdated and the thread is closed to further comment, so here is a new one. Edy's And Dreyer's Grand Vanilla Bean Ice Cream - 1.5 Quart is labeled "Gluten Free". This is a different answer than years gone by. I don't know the answer for any other flavor at this moment. On 1 May, 2026, Edy's website says: "As a general rule, the gluten in Edy's and Dreyer's® frozen dessert products is present only in the added bakery products, such as cookies, cake or brownies. We always label the eight major food allergens on our package by their common name. We recommend to always check the label for the most current information before purchasing and/or consuming a product. The exception to this rule is our Slow Churned French Silk frozen dairy dessert, which contains gluten in the natural flavors." https://www.icecream.com/us/en/brands/edys-and-dreyers/faq It seems that Edy's and Dreyer's are more celiac-friendly than they were 10 years ago. Once I found enough information to make today's buying decision, I stopped researching.
    • Aretaeus Cappadocia
      probably not your situation @Mimiof2, but allow me to add one more to @trents list of celiac-mimics: "olmesartan-induced sprue-like enteropathy"  
    • knitty kitty
      My dad had an Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm.  Fortunately, it was discovered during an exam.  The doctor could feel my dad's heart beating in his stomach/abdomen.  The aneurysm burst when the doctor first touched it in surgery.  Since he was already hooked up to the bypass machine, my dad survived ten more years.  Close call! Triple A's can press on the nerves in the spinal cord causing leg pain.  I'm wondering if bowing the head might have increased the pressure on an aneurysm and then the nerves.   https://gulfcoastsurgeons.com/understanding-abdominal-aortic-aneurysm-symptoms-and-causes/ Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm Presenting as a Claudication https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4040638/
×
×
  • Create New...