Jump to content

  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):

    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Please Help... Diagnostic Question...need More Information

Dagyngrl

Recommended Posts

Dagyngrl Newbie
Dagyngrl
Posted

Hi, Ok. So one month ago I was diagnosed Celiac after having severe pain in my abdomen for the last month and many other symptoms. They did an endoscopy and a biopsy and the biopsy came back positive for Celiac. So I was told to go Gluten Free and the last month I have slowly felt better. I assumed I was properly diagnosed and started my life changing diet.  2 weeks ago they had me go in for blood work and both my serology test and genetic test came back negative for Celiac. The nurse who called me about me results said I don't have any aversion to gluten. She was not a kind lady and was very angry at me for asking her so many questions she could not answer. She had to talk to the Dr. 3 different times and call me back. I knew the serology test was done incorrectly and told her so. I feel like my Dr. just gave me a giant run around and don't even want to go back and see him... 

 

So how do I have a positive biopsy and negative genetic test? I know the serology was done incorrectly, as I had been gluten-free for over 3 weeks prior to the blood work... but if the genetic test came back negaitve... is it not possible that I could be Celiac?

 

Do either of those tests actual test for gluten sensitivity? Or just for Celiac?

 

Please any advise or any experiences you have could really help me at this point... Thank you so much!!! :)

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


kareng Grand Master
kareng
Posted

Assuming they actually ran the correct gene test, then they should be looking for other reasons you have intestinal damage. Have you actually seen the actual test results and pathology reports? Might be a good idea to get a copy of that and ask them to explain the damage they saw.

Open Original Shared Link

Other causes of villous atrophy:

Open Original Shared Link

nora-n Rookie
nora-n
Posted

only 92% have DQ2.5 and DQ8, which are the official celiac genes.

 

Th rest have other genes, or half.

 

Call the lab to get the full results. 

 

Several people here have gotten the full results.

 

---

Here is a paper on why DQ9 is a celiac gene, and DQ2,2 and DQ7, and DQ2,3

The labs will report those are not celiac genes.....

Open Original Shared Link bottom of page, a pdf

nora-n Rookie
nora-n
Posted

Also, it looks like the blood test for tissue transglutaminase IgA was negative.

 

Now you might be IgA deficient, or your body cannot make much IgA because the immune system does not work well. This is also typical  with small children.

nvsmom Community Regular
nvsmom
Posted

If you are gluten-free, that will cause false negative blood tests (excluding the genetic tests).  Some people's labs go back to normal within a few weeks - you might be one of the lucky ones.

 

Maybe even post the biopsy results here. There are a few people who could probably help you with interpretting the results.

 

Best wishes

SMRI Collaborator
SMRI
Posted

I would get a copy of the exact tests they ran along with the results and lab ranges.  Also, I would find another doctor.  They should have run these tests first, before your scope, while you were eating gluten.  A good doctor would have known that :D.

Cara in Boston Enthusiast
Cara in Boston
Posted

a knowledgeable doctor would not have run blood tests on a person who has been gluten free for three weeks.  None of those test results are valid.

 

You had a positive biopsy and a positive response to the diet.  You have celiac disease.

 

The genetic test is NOT diagnostic.  Some people with the common genes do not develop celiac disease . . . some people without the genes do get it.  This test is really of little value to doctors unless it is used as merely a "clue" when other test results are vague.  

 

DO NOT resume eating gluten.  DO get a new doctor if at all possible.  See if there is a Celiac Support group in your area.  Get advice from them about what doctors are in your area.

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):



    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):



  • Recent Activity

    1. Scatterbrain
      - Scatterbrain replied to Scatterbrain's topic in Sports and Fitness
      3

      Feel like I’m starting over

      Thanks to those who have replied. To Cristina, my symptoms are as follows: Dizziness, lightheaded, headaches (mostly sinus), jaw/neck pain, severe tinnitus, joint stiffness, fatigue, irregular heart rate, post exercise muscle fatigue and soreness, brain fog, insomnia. Generally feeling unwell. To Trents, We didn’t do any of the construction but did v...
    2. Kirita
      - Kirita replied to Kirita's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      2

      Recovery from gluten challenge

      Thank you so much for your response! I have a follow-up appointment with her pediatrician next week, and also an appointment with her pediatric GI Dr. Your message gives me some ideas for questions to ask the doctors. My daughter went strictly gluten-free in January following her first endoscopy so I’m guessing her diet is pretty solid. She is compliant b...
    3. Scott Adams
      - Scott Adams replied to Kirita's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      2

      Recovery from gluten challenge

      While the positive endoscopy confirms the diagnosis, it's important to be skeptical of the idea that your daughter will simply "bounce back" to a pre-challenge state. The gluten challenge was essentially a controlled, prolonged exposure that likely caused significant inflammation and damage to her system; it's not surprising that recovery is slow and that...
    4. Scott Adams
      - Scott Adams replied to Colleen H's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      1

      Brain fog

      The most common nutrient deficiencies associated with celiac disease that may lead to testing for the condition include iron, vitamin D, folate (vitamin B9), vitamin B12, calcium, zinc, and magnesium. Unfortunately many doctors, including my own doctor at the time, don't do extensive follow up testing for a broad range of nutrient deficiencies, nor recommend...
    5. trents
      - trents replied to Scatterbrain's topic in Sports and Fitness
      3

      Feel like I’m starting over

      Were you doing any of the new home construction yourself? Drywall compounds and adhesives used in construction have been known to cause problems for some celiacs.
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):


  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,287
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748
    Desert Ratt
    Newest Member
    Desert Ratt
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Scatterbrain
      Feel like I’m starting over

      By Scatterbrain · Posted

      Thanks to those who have replied.  To Cristina, my symptoms are as follows: Dizziness, lightheaded, headaches (mostly sinus), jaw/neck pain, severe tinnitus, joint stiffness, fatigue, irregular heart rate, post exercise muscle fatigue and soreness, brain fog, insomnia.  Generally feeling unwell. To Trents, We didn’t do any of the construction but did visit the job site quite often.  While getting the old house ready we stirred up a lot of dust and I’m sure mold but haven’t been back there for over a month.
    • Kirita
      Recovery from gluten challenge

      By Kirita · Posted

      Thank you so much for your response! I have a follow-up appointment with her pediatrician next week, and also an appointment with her pediatric GI Dr. Your message gives me some ideas for questions to ask the doctors. My daughter went strictly gluten-free in January following her first endoscopy so I’m guessing her diet is pretty solid. She is compliant but also reliant on others to make her food (at school and home) but she didn’t have this problem prior to the gluten challenge when she went strictly gluten-free. It really makes sense to me that the gluten challenge inflammation hasn’t healed and I will be asking her doctors about nutritional issues. I ask for anecdotal stories because the research surrounding the gluten challenge seems to be inconsistent and inconclusive (at least what I’ve been able to find!). Thank you so much for your response!
    • Scott Adams
      Recovery from gluten challenge

      By Scott Adams · Posted

      While the positive endoscopy confirms the diagnosis, it's important to be skeptical of the idea that your daughter will simply "bounce back" to a pre-challenge state. The gluten challenge was essentially a controlled, prolonged exposure that likely caused significant inflammation and damage to her system; it's not surprising that recovery is slow and that a subsequent exposure hit her so hard. The persistent fatigue is a major red flag that her body is still struggling, potentially indicating that the initial damage hasn't fully healed or that her system is now in a heightened state of reactivity. Rather than seeking anecdotal timelines from others, her experience underscores the critical need for close follow-up with her gastroenterologist to rule out other nutrient deficiencies commonly caused by celiac flare-ups, like iron or B12, and to consult with a dietitian to scrutinize her diet for any hidden sources of cross-contamination that could be perpetuating her symptoms. The most common nutrient deficiencies associated with celiac disease that may lead to testing for the condition include iron, vitamin D, folate (vitamin B9), vitamin B12, calcium, zinc, and magnesium.  Unfortunately many doctors, including my own doctor at the time, don't do extensive follow up testing for a broad range of nutrient deficiencies, nor recommend that those just diagnosed with celiac disease take a broad spectrum vitamin/mineral supplement, which would greatly benefit most, if not all, newly diagnosed celiacs.      
    • Scott Adams
      Brain fog

      By Scott Adams · Posted

      The most common nutrient deficiencies associated with celiac disease that may lead to testing for the condition include iron, vitamin D, folate (vitamin B9), vitamin B12, calcium, zinc, and magnesium.  Unfortunately many doctors, including my own doctor at the time, don't do extensive follow up testing for a broad range of nutrient deficiencies, nor recommend that those just diagnosed with celiac disease take a broad spectrum vitamin/mineral supplement, which would greatly benefit most, if not all, newly diagnosed celiacs. Brain fog, like other celiac disease symptoms, does improve after you to 100% gluten-free, and supplementation will also help.      
    • trents
      Feel like I’m starting over

      By trents · Posted

      Were you doing any of the new home construction yourself? Drywall compounds and adhesives used in construction have been known to cause problems for some celiacs.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.