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It makes sense to me.

Carole we are kindred spirits, lol!

Dani - gosh I don't have any advice...I'm actually having just the opposite problem, lol. Before starting SCD I was almost C'd, now that I've started I've been going at least 2-3 times a day. Makes me think I should not add any new things for a couple of days.

I have a small crock pot which I may try making soup with though...I think I could definitely do chicken. It doesn't have skin on it though...bummer.

Oh yeah! I remember that show. I've definitely learned how to cook lots and lots of delicious meat since I've been watching him. My favorite is pork shoulder roast, I have a wonderful recipe if you want it. And I also like to make chili. I commit another SCD heresy and I use canned tomatoes as long as they don't have any illegal ingredients.

I'd love the recipe for the pork shoulder roast. I like pork but the only way I know how to make it is in a frying pan, lol. In fact everything I make goes in the frying pan. Everything.

I could swear in the book it says weak coffee is ok. It does say that on her web site: Open Original Shared Link

Yep, you're right. I re-read chapters 9 and 10 last night and sure enough weak coffee is okay. It was specifically decaf stuff and intant coffee she says isn't good because of the processing. I think I've been illegal yesterday especially...I had two cups of decaf tea. Grrr.

Corinne your soup sounds great and easy enough for someone like me to make, lol! I may try that this evening...I'm just about over ground beef and carrots.

Nancy - Ha! I watched him last night...it was a show on pot roast and it actually looked like it was almost completely legal for SCD...he used canned tomatoe juice! I've never seen that before, but we can have that...and olives. Okay, I'm just hungry, lol.

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Hey Dani and everyone else asking about making Chicken Broth,

You get the broth from cooking the chicken with the skin on (that is where a lot of the flavor comes from) in the water. I use to cook chicken soup all the time, not in the crock pot but on the stove. Takes about 2-3 hrs covered, low flame on the stove. I just put all the stuff in and filled the pot with water - seasoned with salt, pepper and onion. You know it is done when the chicken is practically falling off the bone.

I hope that helps!

Have a greatday!

That DOES help, THANKS!!

I love Alton Brown...I used to watch him all the time...learned how to make my Irish Oats (which I can't eat now, lol) from him. I stopped watching recently because they were all shows I'd seen before (and also because I never thought I'd have to cook, lol)...maybel I'll start watching him again....maybe I'll even mosey on over to his website. Hum, maybe I'll check out the cookbook. Funny thing is I don't cook but I collect cook books. :D

we should all be amazing cooks after this year, huh? In the book it even gives recipes for candy! Crazy. I never thought I would have the need to MAKE candy, when it's at every store in the world!

Very crazy! My mom will be shocked, when, in a few months I can tell her I made homemade chicken soup, lol.

So how is progress????

I just started yesterday...so far so good, lol. I've already had to invent a way to make my cooked carrots (never one of my favorite dishes) palletable, lol.

Another question. I'm making the chicken soup today in a crockpot, but where do I get the broth from? Is it naturally made from the carrots and chicken and water? I don't understand though because it says 'strain the soup....puree the carrots........return to broth' If I'm straining the soup, where is the broth?

I've never cooked anything before all of this, and even when I first new for sure I had Celiac, I stuck with the easiest things possible to make. So I'm very unexperienced with all of this.

Eagerly awaiting replies to this, lol. I have always done just what you described...the easiest thing possible. Open a can of broth and throw in some chicken. I am no cook! My mom used to boil her chicken in a pot of water and that's how she got the broth, but I have no clue as to how long one cooks it, or how much, lol. Then somehow she threw in her veggies and whatever else she was going to put in. She used whole cut up chickens skin and all. I never paid attention because I figured it wouldn't ever apply to me, lol.

Rachel posted a link somewhere to pecanbread.com which I think has something like that...I'm going to go look as soon as I catch up on the new posts.

Here's the link to the page where it describes adding food back:

Open Original Shared Link

I could swear in the book it says weak coffee is ok. It does say that on her web site: Open Original Shared Link

Wow, maybe it was specific to decaf and instant because of the processes involved. Wow...course I still can't drink it without my half-n-half (or even Silk), lol.

Lorka - I'm not sure if there are any vegetarians currently doing SCD...sorry.

Dani - From what I've heard it really can take 3 days for that food to work its way entirely through...I can sometime react right away to something but other times I don't. I don't think I'd drink the grape juice...it may be "good" but there may also be a bit of bacteria in there. I was thinking the same thing as you about the book really not specifying which foods to add when. Rachel posted a link somewhere to pecanbread.com which I think has something like that...I'm going to go look as soon as I catch up on the new posts.

Well, all I survived my first half day, lol. I figured out a way to eat my carrots that I think is legal since I'm not currently having D. I grated 3 carrots and added them to a saute pan, put in a touch of apple cider and added just a few pieces of dried cranberries. It let it cook for a while to soften the carrots and the cranberries...It tasted like a warm carrot salad, lol. I can live with that! I'm going to get some pineapple juice next week and use that instead of the cider.

Lorka, you're right, in the book she says no coffee not even decaf. Fortunately for me I haven't been drinking coffee since I found out I was casein intolerant...can't have coffee without my half-n-half, lol...there's just no point.

Interestingly I talked to a friend who I haven't talke to in a long time and as we were catching up I was explaining my current situation with Gluten-free Casein-free and how I was going to try this diet because I was still having intestinal issues. She says "Is that the one where you make your own yogurt?". Turns out her sister-in-law went on it and apparently it really, really helped her. I've just started it today, so I'll be able to report back soon I hope!

Ha! I could go for some carrot cake right now, lol. Well, I started the SCD today. My breakfast wasn't legal, but after that, my testing was done, so I decided I would just finish the day out. I'm about to go make my second ground beef/carrot dinner, lol. I am not fond of cooked carrots so this should be interesting. I may actually try to put a bit of honey on them to make them like glazed carrots which I do like. I love beef, so no problem there!

So I bought 3 big bags of carrots today, lol. Also bought two huge packages of organic ground beef. I should be able to start this by Monday at the latest.

Do you really have to rotate that often? I generally buy stuff at the grocery store and eat it often during that week until it runs out. Then don't buy whatever that is for another week or two.

I just think the rotation helps to keep the diet varied enough so that those who are sort of "predisposed" to intolerances/allergies/etc can recognize food groups and problem foods etc. If you only eat something (or a family) every 4 days, it becomes a little easier to know what bothers you. I don't think the majority of people have to worry about it at all.

At the time my allergist suggested this I was allergic to about 30 things (environmental), and I think he was worried because I was eating the same things every day--i.e., I was having soy milk every day...soy is one of the major allergens...he just didn't want me to develop any other problems because I already had enough, lol. There are some allergists who don't think it's possible to develop allergies that way...I don't know what I think about that, but I kind of knew it was a good thing for me to vary my diet especially at that time.

I also agree with the thought that once our guts heal and immune reactions level out, this becomes much less of an issue.

Here it is...it's broken up into days following a 4-day rotation. Note: I have not removed the milk products, and of course if you know you're sensitive to something I wouldn't eat it...but this would be a good way to see what items are in that same "family" to catch other things you might be eating:

Day 1

Proteins/Meat/Fish/Fowl

Cornish hen

Crab

Egg (chicken)

Pheasant

Rabbit/wild game

Sardines

Scallops

Sole

Tuna

Turbot

Venison

Vegetables

Asparagus

Bean, green/dried

Carrot

Cucumber

Garlic

Onion

Parsley

Parsnip

Pumpkin (other hard shell)

Scallion

Spinach

Sweet bell pepper

Tomato

Flours and Cereals

Amaranth

Arrowroot

Bean flours

Poi, dehydrated

Nuts and Seeds

Carob powder

Cashews

Flax and anise seed

Peanuts

Pumpkin seed

Oils

Flaxseed oil

Olive oil

Soy oil

Sweeteners

Grape juice

Pear juice

Puréed pear

Fruit

Blackberry

Boysenberry

Cranberry

Currants

Grape/raisins

Honeydew/canteloupe

Mango

Pear

Raspberry

Condiments

Anise

Basil

Chervil

Cream of tartar

Dill

Fennel

Gums: guar; acacia

Olive

Oregano

Parsley

Savory

Vanilla

Beverages

Cashew milk

Coffee

Raspberry leaf tea

Rose hips tea

Day 2

Proteins/Meat/Fish/Fowl

Bluefish

Butterfish

Catfish

Duck/duck egg

Goat milk

Lamb

Monkfish

Pike

Scrod/cod

Vegetables

Artichoke, Jerusalem

Bok choy

Broccoli

Cauliflower

Cress

Kale

Mushrooms

Okra

Radish

Sweet potato

Flours and Cereals

Buckwheat

Milo

[Oats]

Nuts and Seeds

Almond

Chia seed

Coconut

Pecan

Sunflower seed

Oils

Almond oil

Sunflower oil

Sweeteners

Puréed nectarine

Pineapple juice

Mashed banana

Fruit

Banana

Cherry

Lemon

Orange

Persimmon

Pineapple nectarine

Rhubarb

Tangerine

Condiments

Cardamom

Clove

Cinnamon

Nutmeg

Peppercorns

Turmeric

Beverages

Almond milk

Decopa

Day 3

Proteins/Meat/Fish/Fowl

Chicken

Flounder

Halibut

Lobster

Orange Roughy

Pork

Shrimp

Whitefish

Vegetables

Artichoke, globe

Beets & greens

Celery/celery root

Chive

Eggplant

Fennel

Leek

Lentils

Lettuces (all)

Pea, green/dried

Shallot

Summer squash

Swiss chard

White potato

Zucchini

Flours and Cereals

Quinoa

Kudzu starch

Nuts and Seeds

Chestnuts (all kinds)

Macadamia nut

Pine nut

Sesame seed

Oils

Safflower oil

Sesame oil

Sweeteners

Apple juice

Aguamiel

Fruit

Apple

Blueberry

Fresh fig

Gooseberry

Kiwi

Papaya

Pomegranate

Strawberry

Watermelon & variety melons

Condiments

Caraway

Celery seed

Coriander

Cumin

Marjoram

Mint

Paprika

Peppermint

Pimiento

Rosemary

Tarragon

Thyme

Beverages

Chamomile tea

Macadamia milk

Mint tea

Peppermint tea

Day 4

Proteins/Meat/Fish/Fowl

Beef/veal

Black sea bass

Grouper

Milk/yogurt

Salmon

Shark

Trout

Turkey

Vegetables

Bamboo shoots

Boniato

Breadfruit

Brussels sprouts

Cabbages, all

Collards

Jicama

Kolrabi

New Zealand spinach

Turnip & greens

Flours and Cereals

Millet

Rice

Tapioca starch

Wild rice

Nuts and Seeds

Brazil nut

Filbert

Poppy seed

Walnut

Oils

Avocado oil

Canola oil

Walnut oil

Sweeteners

Puréed peach

Stevia (herb)

Fruit

Apricot

Avocado

Grapefruit

Lime

Peach

Plaintain

Plum

Prune

Ugly fruit

Condiments

Allspice

Bay leaf

Ginger

Mace

Mustard

Beverages

Black/green tea

Brazil nut milk

Comfrey tea

Okay, I'll revise it later so it can be posted here for all to see. It was taken from a book called the Yeast Connection. There is an official website, but I can't remember if the rotation is posted there. The foods are grouped together by families so you wouldn't want to borrow from another day. Any foods that are similar but not part of the same families are separated by a day so you wouldn't be eating them on consecutive days.

I have a chart done up in Word but it's in table format so I can't post it here. I took it directly out of a book that rotated food groups. If you want me to I can try to revise it to post here or I can email it to you. It was originally based on a anti-candida rotation diet. It was naturally low in gluten, but it does have some milk items listed...you would just have to ignore those. It was strict, but the six months I followed that I felt the best I have in years (I wasn't gluten-free or casein-free at that time because I hadn't figured that all out yet, lol).

but I also never found one that I could tolerate the taste. ;-)

Yep, I bought some goat milk and took a big sip and nearly spit it out, lol. I did like the goat milk yogurt for some reason though--although to be honest I did add DaVinci sugar free syrup to it and nuts and/or sunflower seeds, so maybe that's why.

Wow, that's amazing!

Corinne, that's interesting because I was following a rotation diet and their theory was that it takes about 3-4 days for most food to go through our systems.

Adding to the weight issue...I did a low carb diet for a few years...I ate lots of nuts and nut butters, meats and veggies and a little bit of fruit here and there. I actually ate quite a bit of food and I still lost weight. I have gained 10 pounds since January (gorging on gluten-free products though)...so I don't need to gain any more, lol.

An opinion regarding the allergy testing...the allergist I see now told me that positives are sometimes false positives, but that the negatives would be negative. When I had my testing done (with a different doctor--I'm considering having testing done again with this doctor since my other test was about 3 years ago), I only showed slight reactions to 4 foods...the rest were all negative. (Interestingly barley was among the 4 along with canteloupe, white grapes, yellow squash.)

In my opinion it would be a starting place if you suspect allergies...you could eliminate those foods that show positive and try adding them one at a time to see which ones were false. But with intolerances you'd probably still have to try the elimination thing.

Mine is below and a little to the left usually. Feels like someone just poked a stick in there and left it.

I'm undecided on this. I was actually eating goat yogurt (store bought) before I was diagnosed by Enterolab with casein intolerance, but I was also eating regular greek yogurt too (alternating the two), so I don't know if both of those contributed to the antibodies or just the greek stuff did. I may try it once, but I'm not sure if I'm going to continue unless I am sure the damage isn't being done regardless of any outward symptoms.

Oh shoot...I didn't bring my book with me today, but I know she mentions two kinds of tea. I know spearmint is one but can't remember the other one. She advises drinking it weak.

Okay here's what I found on the website:

"Ordinary black tea is legal but should be made weak. Instant tea,Ojibwa tea (Essiac), many herbal teas, teas made from bark etc are full of polysaccharides and are illegal. Peppermint and spearmint herb teas are legal, and you can make a tea from ginger which is also legal."