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dlp252 Apprentice
Another question. I'm making the chicken soup today in a crockpot, but where do I get the broth from? Is it naturally made from the carrots and chicken and water? I don't understand though because it says 'strain the soup....puree the carrots........return to broth' If I'm straining the soup, where is the broth?

I've never cooked anything before all of this, and even when I first new for sure I had Celiac, I stuck with the easiest things possible to make. So I'm very unexperienced with all of this.

Eagerly awaiting replies to this, lol. I have always done just what you described...the easiest thing possible. Open a can of broth and throw in some chicken. I am no cook! :D My mom used to boil her chicken in a pot of water and that's how she got the broth, but I have no clue as to how long one cooks it, or how much, lol. Then somehow she threw in her veggies and whatever else she was going to put in. She used whole cut up chickens skin and all. I never paid attention because I figured it wouldn't ever apply to me, lol.


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Rachel--24 Collaborator

There was a recipe for the soup but I dont remember where I saw it. This is how I made it...skinless chicken, carrots, celery, onions in water. When it was done I threw out the onions and celery and ate the soup.

danikali Enthusiast
Eagerly awaiting replies to this, lol. I have always done just what you described...the easiest thing possible. Open a can of broth and throw in some chicken. I am no cook! :D My mom used to boil her chicken in a pot of water and that's how she got the broth, but I have no clue as to how long one cooks it, or how much, lol. Then somehow she threw in her veggies and whatever else she was going to put in. She used whole cut up chickens skin and all. I never paid attention because I figured it wouldn't ever apply to me, lol.

I know, I never paid attention either. I thought I could always use regular old chicken soup, maybe broth, and maybe throw some extra noodles in there! ahah.....we should all be amazing cooks after this year, huh? In the book it even gives recipes for candy! Crazy. I never thought I would have the need to MAKE candy, when it's at every store in the world!

There was a recipe for the soup but I dont remember where I saw it. This is how I made it...skinless chicken, carrots, celery, onions in water. When it was done I threw out the onions and celery and ate the soup.

GOod idea! I should have thought of that!!!! Oh well, mine will be really really bland. I looked in the pot before I left this morning, and to tell you the truth, it looked ugly and white. It didn't look appetizing. Just a big white cloud. Hope it looks and smells better when I get home!

dlp252 Apprentice
we should all be amazing cooks after this year, huh? In the book it even gives recipes for candy! Crazy. I never thought I would have the need to MAKE candy, when it's at every store in the world!

Very crazy! My mom will be shocked, when, in a few months I can tell her I made homemade chicken soup, lol.

Nancym Enthusiast

I suggest that if you're wondering how to master the basics of cooking, watch Good Eats on the Food TV channel. He's highly entertaining and you'll really learn a lot! I'm addicted to that show.

There's a cook book called "Garden of Eating" that might be a good one for SCD'ers. I have it on order. The reviews I found for it really praised the heck out of it.

dlp252 Apprentice

I love Alton Brown...I used to watch him all the time...learned how to make my Irish Oats (which I can't eat now, lol) from him. I stopped watching recently because they were all shows I'd seen before (and also because I never thought I'd have to cook, lol)...maybel I'll start watching him again....maybe I'll even mosey on over to his website. Hum, maybe I'll check out the cookbook. Funny thing is I don't cook but I collect cook books. :D :D :D

corinne Apprentice

I eat chicken + carrot soup for breakfast and lunch. Hopefully, I can get a little more variety soon.

I take two large chicken legs/thighs, 15 carrots and about a gallon of water, put it into a big pot in the evening and boil it with the lid off for a couple of hours, then let it sit in the fridge overnight. The next morning, I skim off the fat with a ladle, pull out the carrots and put the carrots and some of the soup water into the blender. I pull the chicken out of the pot, skin it, take the bones out + chop it up. Then I put the pureed carrots and chicken back in the pot. The onions and celery cause problems for me even if I pull them out of the pot.

It sounds like a lot of work, but it takes me about 15 min. in the evening and 15 min. the next morning and I have enough soup for about 8 meals.


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Nancym Enthusiast

LOL! It is funny you watch him, but don't cook. Well, he sure is fun to watch. I've got a lot of his shows Tivo'd. Often times I watch a bit... pause it, run to the kitchen, run back out and watch more. Its kind of funny.

teankerbell Apprentice
I know, I never paid attention either. I thought I could always use regular old chicken soup, maybe broth, and maybe throw some extra noodles in there! ahah.....we should all be amazing cooks after this year, huh? In the book it even gives recipes for candy! Crazy. I never thought I would have the need to MAKE candy, when it's at every store in the world!

GOod idea! I should have thought of that!!!! Oh well, mine will be really really bland. I looked in the pot before I left this morning, and to tell you the truth, it looked ugly and white. It didn't look appetizing. Just a big white cloud. Hope it looks and smells better when I get home!

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Hey Dani and everyone else asking about making Chicken Broth,

You get the broth from cooking the chicken with the skin on (that is where a lot of the flavor comes from) in the water. I use to cook chicken soup all the time, not in the crock pot but on the stove. Takes about 2-3 hrs covered, low flame on the stove. I just put all the stuff in and filled the pot with water - seasoned with salt, pepper and onion. You know it is done when the chicken is practically falling off the bone.

I hope that helps!

Have a greatday! B)

dlp252 Apprentice

Corinne your soup sounds great and easy enough for someone like me to make, lol! I may try that this evening...I'm just about over ground beef and carrots. :D

Nancy - Ha! I watched him last night...it was a show on pot roast and it actually looked like it was almost completely legal for SCD...he used canned tomatoe juice! I've never seen that before, but we can have that...and olives. Okay, I'm just hungry, lol.

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Hey Dani and everyone else asking about making Chicken Broth,

You get the broth from cooking the chicken with the skin on (that is where a lot of the flavor comes from) in the water. I use to cook chicken soup all the time, not in the crock pot but on the stove. Takes about 2-3 hrs covered, low flame on the stove. I just put all the stuff in and filled the pot with water - seasoned with salt, pepper and onion. You know it is done when the chicken is practically falling off the bone.

I hope that helps!

Have a greatday! B)

That DOES help, THANKS!!

Nancym Enthusiast

Oh yeah! I remember that show. I've definitely learned how to cook lots and lots of delicious meat since I've been watching him. My favorite is pork shoulder roast, I have a wonderful recipe if you want it. And I also like to make chili. I commit another SCD heresy and I use canned tomatoes as long as they don't have any illegal ingredients.

danikali Enthusiast

Laura, hah, that's what I figured, but the instructions in the book were so confusing because it said 'strain the soup.....puree the carrots, then return back to broth!' And I was like, well if you strain the chicken and the soup, where's the broth? You just drained the soup! hahaha.......

Anyway everyone, my soup turned out AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm going to make this more often! Even my DF loved it. (I made noodles for him on the side and then added them to his soup when I served it so his was like real chicken noodle.) Anyway, the broth was really really good, and yes, the chicken fell right off the bones. I loved it! I actually took a bowl to work today. And it was so easy. I threw some stuff in there in the morning, let it cook all day, and when I got home, presto! Ready!

Okay, but I have a new dilema. Well, before I was diagnosed, I would always always have the worst "C" wouldn't go for like 3 weeks at a time (gross, I know). Well, now that I'm on this SCD, and my diet is mostly meat, carrots juice and I'm slowly adding fruit back in (I've added apples, cooked, tomorrow is pears)......anyway, I haven't 'gone' since last Thursday and I'm scared to get backed up the way I used to. Before the SCD, I would drink this laxitive tea (if I didn't go for say 3 days), but we can't have herbal teas on this diet. Also, I found out that the zelnorm that my doc gave me has casein in it, lactose to be exact. So I can't take that crap anymore. So what should I do? Just wait it out until my body does it naturally again? We can't even have flaxseeds on this diet! I'm still feeling a lot better, but I know it's not good to not go for weeks. I haven't gone since thursday now, so it's slowly creeping up to 1 week, and I never feel like I have to go. So, any suggestions would help. Other than that, I guess I'll just wait until I can add some more fiber.

CMCM Rising Star
I love Alton Brown...I used to watch him all the time...learned how to make my Irish Oats (which I can't eat now, lol) from him. I stopped watching recently because they were all shows I'd seen before (and also because I never thought I'd have to cook, lol)...maybel I'll start watching him again....maybe I'll even mosey on over to his website. Hum, maybe I'll check out the cookbook. Funny thing is I don't cook but I collect cook books. :D :D :D

Ha ha...me too!! :lol: I've got all these cookbooks and I don't "cook" a lot anymore, especially now because I'm so limited and most of my favorite recipes involve either wheat or dairy. So I've lost what remaining interest I had, for the most part. I still look at recipes and cookbooks though, and kind of think "Oh, that sounds good...wouldn't that be nice...". I'm so tired of figuring out what I can eat that won't upset me that I'd rather just take a pill for food or something rather than deal with it. :o

dlp252 Apprentice

Carole we are kindred spirits, lol!

Dani - gosh I don't have any advice...I'm actually having just the opposite problem, lol. Before starting SCD I was almost C'd, now that I've started I've been going at least 2-3 times a day. Makes me think I should not add any new things for a couple of days.

I have a small crock pot which I may try making soup with though...I think I could definitely do chicken. :) It doesn't have skin on it though...bummer.

Oh yeah! I remember that show. I've definitely learned how to cook lots and lots of delicious meat since I've been watching him. My favorite is pork shoulder roast, I have a wonderful recipe if you want it. And I also like to make chili. I commit another SCD heresy and I use canned tomatoes as long as they don't have any illegal ingredients.

I'd love the recipe for the pork shoulder roast. I like pork but the only way I know how to make it is in a frying pan, lol. In fact everything I make goes in the frying pan. Everything. :D

Rachel--24 Collaborator

Before I started the diet I was having loose stools now I'm more C but still going everyday.

The soup tastes better when you cook with the skin on but I'm sensitive to chemicals (salicylates & amines) so I have to get skinless.

corinne Apprentice

I'm definitely not a cook, but I'm learning with this diet. For pork shoulder roast, I put it in a roasting pan with the lid on at 350 until the internal temp of the roast is 170. It takes about 2 hours in my oven for a 5 pound roast. If you want it moister and can handle some fruit, put sliced apples or peaches on top before you put it in the oven.

Nancym Enthusiast
I'd love the recipe for the pork shoulder roast. I like pork but the only way I know how to make it is in a frying pan, lol. In fact everything I make goes in the frying pan. Everything. :D

I make huge quanities of stuff and freeze it. Here's a GREAT pork shoulder roast. Makes a lot. :D I find whole spices at the health food store that are pretty inexpensive and use a coffee grinder (dedicated to the task) to grind them. This requires sitting in its dry rub in the fridge over night, so you do have to plan ahead a bit. Then it takes 4-6 hours to cook.

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dlp252 Apprentice

Thanks Corinne and Nancy and Rachel! I may turn into a cook yet, lol

I'm making soup now, no skin though, but looks like there's plenty of fat since I'm using thighs only. I am having it for breakfast and I can't wait, lol. I am so hungry since starting SCD and I'm eating a good amount of food too. I woke up at 11:15 last night and couldn't get back to sleep because I was soooo hungry...I finally had to get up and eat almond butter which was just about the only thing I had that was somewhat legal that didn't require cooking or fixing. (Never did get back to sleep though, grrr.) And, stupid me, realized my dried cranberries have cane sugar... DOH!!! I can't believe I didn't remember that! Sheesh, lol. So looks like I'll have to get some raisins when next I shop.

danikali Enthusiast

okay guys.....I added apples in this week and it was going great until yesterday, I had them raw, along with raw carrots, and last night and this morning, my stomach and back, etc. are all killing me again. Today I'm doing no fruits and tomorrow and from now on, it's only cooked. I thought maybe I could handle it because I don't have "d" but I guess it's still a problem for someone with "c"? Anyone know why?

dlp252 Apprentice

Dani - Hum, this is only a guess, but perhaps whether or not we have D, our intestines just need to start the real healing process before it can handle the raw stuff. I don't know though. I have two oranges on my counter that I'm crazy to eat, but I have been worried about eating them, lol. I guess I'll just have to squeeze the juice out before they go bad.

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So, I had my soup last night as a snack and this morning for breakfast...YUM. I am so happy to have something different, lol. I even have a little left for a snack this evening. This weekend I'll buy some chicken parts with skin on just so I can make more soup and this time I'll make a bigger batch and freeze some.

I'm also going to buy pears...I'm not sure how one cooks a pear...do you put liquid in of some kind? I want to make a pear compote type of thing with the cooked pears then drizzle a bit of honey over them and maybe a couple of raisins...it'd be great with nuts on top, but I don't think I should add that yet, lol.

Nancym Enthusiast

I think you're supposed to peel and cook apples until you've been on the diet awhile. I know pectin was one thing she thought was bad to send down the chowder chute and apples have lots of pectin in their skins.

I'm not good about obeying this stricture myself.

danikali Enthusiast

Thanks guys. Does anyone know about how long until we can eat fruit and veggies raw? I don't want to mess this up again. I was feeling so good.

And that's a good idea, to juice the fruit as it's not being eaten because I hate when my fruit goes bad! And I boil the apples. It comes out tasting like the apples in an apple pie! So good!

Oh also, I've been drinking some apple juice. I know it says illegal BUT on the labels it says, 100% juice, no sugar, no anything but apples and water and vitaman C. In the ingrediants, that is all it lists and on the side of the bottle, it says "Our Pledge, WE DO NOT ADD SUGAR OR ANY ARTIFICIAL INGREDIENTS TO OUR JUICE. JUST PURE APPLES.

It's 'Apple and Eve' brand. Is this bad? What do you think?

Nancym Enthusiast
Thanks guys. Does anyone know about how long until we can eat fruit and veggies raw? I don't want to mess this up again. I was feeling so good.

And that's a good idea, to juice the fruit as it's not being eaten because I hate when my fruit goes bad! And I boil the apples. It comes out tasting like the apples in an apple pie! So good!

Oh also, I've been drinking some apple juice. I know it says illegal BUT on the labels it says, 100% juice, no sugar, no anything but apples and water and vitaman C. In the ingrediants, that is all it lists and on the side of the bottle, it says "Our Pledge, WE DO NOT ADD SUGAR OR ANY ARTIFICIAL INGREDIENTS TO OUR JUICE. JUST PURE APPLES.

It's 'Apple and Eve' brand. Is this bad? What do you think?

I'm not sure but I do recall the book said something on the subject. I thought cider was ok? If all else fails you can look on the web site: breakingtheviciouscycle.info on the legal list.

I think you slowly introduce raw fruits and veggies one at a time once the D. has stopped. For me it always seems to take 24 hours for bad effects to happen, so I wait 2 days before trying new foods.

danikali Enthusiast
I'm not sure but I do recall the book said something on the subject. I thought cider was ok? If all else fails you can look on the web site: breakingtheviciouscycle.info on the legal list.

I think you slowly introduce raw fruits and veggies one at a time once the D. has stopped. For me it always seems to take 24 hours for bad effects to happen, so I wait 2 days before trying new foods.

Thanks, but the thing is, I don't have 'D' I have 'C' but the raw stuff still makes me very gassy to the point of being very uncomfortable. I couldn't sleep that well because my back, stomach and chest hurt again. And of course I woke up with a huge stomach.

dlp252 Apprentice
Thanks guys. Does anyone know about how long until we can eat fruit and veggies raw? I don't want to mess this up again. I was feeling so good.

And that's a good idea, to juice the fruit as it's not being eaten because I hate when my fruit goes bad! And I boil the apples. It comes out tasting like the apples in an apple pie! So good!

Oh also, I've been drinking some apple juice. I know it says illegal BUT on the labels it says, 100% juice, no sugar, no anything but apples and water and vitaman C. In the ingrediants, that is all it lists and on the side of the bottle, it says "Our Pledge, WE DO NOT ADD SUGAR OR ANY ARTIFICIAL INGREDIENTS TO OUR JUICE. JUST PURE APPLES.

It's 'Apple and Eve' brand. Is this bad? What do you think?

I'll try boiling, lol. As far as when to add...I'm not sure the book really ever said--it was mostly geared towards people with D and the D was the indicator, but didn't address those of us who didn't have it but still need to let our guts heal. I think I'm going to at least wait three weeks (since I've been making some mistakes, grrr)...maybe a month. I don't know how else I'll tell.

As far as the apple juice...I think her main concern was that labeling wasn't correct...so if they state that really clearly on the label, it should be okay. I bought a cider that was clear...but it has the same statement on the label...so I'm not sure if I'm okay or not. Just in case, I'm not having it every day.

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This dang diet is tough, lol. Last night I had a horrible headache...I'd kind of had it all day, but it got worse in the evening...even my teeth hurt and finally I couldn't take it anymore so took some Tylenol...guess what...the Tylenol was coated...didn't register until it was partially down, lol. I looked on the bottle for ingredients, but none was listed...just the words "sweet coating". Grrrr! "Sweet coating" can't be good for me, lol.

The other day I was taking my flax seed oil (my eye doctor wants me to take it)...it's coated in CAROB!

Sheesh! :D

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First noticed in the gym. • Abdominal bulge on the right side, not painful but seems to be getting slightly bigger. Doctor didn’t find a hernia on ultrasound, but it was done lying down (I’ve read those can miss hernias). Noticed it like 6 months ago, couldve been there longer. • extremely dry and mildly swollen hands (this started before I started excessive hand-washing), and bloated face. • Signs of inattentive ADHD (noticed over the past 3 years), now combined with severe OCD focused on contamination and cross-contact. • Growth/puberty seemed to started after going gluten-free. Before that I was not developing. Dont know if any of these are because of celiac as my dad doesnt have those and he is a lot less strict gluten-free then me. I also had pancreatic elastase tested four times: values were 46 (very low), 236, 158, and 306 (normal). Gastroenterologist said one normal value is enough and I don’t have EPI. Family doctor prescribed Kreon anyway (after I pushed for it), and I just started taking 1 capsule (10,000 units) with meals 2 days ago, but couldn‘t see effects yet because I’ve been constipated the last few days. Maybe because of thyroid. I don’t have Hashimoto’s. No thyroid antibodies. But I took levothyroxine for slightly low FT4 levels. My thyroid levels fluctuated between borderline low and low-normal. And recently lowered my dose so that may have caused the constipating. I probably didn’t need it in the first place, and am thinking about stopping it soon.   Current Diet Right now, I only eat a very limited set of “safe” foods I prepare myself: • Gluten-free bread with tuna or cheese • Milk and cornflakes • gluten-free cookies/snacks • Bananas (the only fruit I trust right now) I rarely eat other fruits or vegetables, because I’m scared of contamination. My dad, who also has celiac but doesn’t care about CC, buys fruits, and he might’ve picked them up right after handling gluten bread. That makes me feel unsafe eating them. Even fruit at stores or markets feels risky because so many people with gluten on their hands touch them.   My Home Situation (Shared Kitchen) We’re a family of 5. Only my dad and I have celiac. He eats glutenfree but doesn’t care about CC and sometimes (but rarely) cheats. My mom and siblings eat gluten bread at every meal. My mom is honest (so if i ask her to be cautious, she most likely would try to), but doesn’t seem to understand how serious celiac is. She: • Stopped using gluten flour • only cooks gluten-free meals (but they still heat up gluten bread and also cook gluten noodles) • Keeps separate butter/jam/jars for me • Bought me a stainless steel pan Bu we didn’t replace old wooden utensils, cutting boards, or other pans. The new they bought me pan was even carried home in a shopping bag with gluten bread in it, which triggered my OCD. It also has a rubber handle and I’m scared it might still hold onto gluten. Even if it’s washed well, it’s stored next to other pans that were used for gluten food/bread. Our kitchen table is used for eating gluten bread daily. My mom wipes it but not with soap. I’m scared tiny particles remain. If she made gluten-free bread dough on a board at the table, I’d still worry about cross contmaination contamination even with something under the dough and on the table as at one point the dough would probably touch the table. So I stopped eating anything she makes.   I know OCD is making it worse, but I can’t tell how much of my fear is real and how much is anxiety. Examples: • I wash my hands 20–30 times a day — before eating, after touching anything at home or outside, after using my phone/laptop. • I don’t let others touch my phone, and I’m scared to use my laptop because friends at school or my brother (who eat gluten) have touched it. And it annoys me a lot when others touch my stuff and feels like it got contaminated and is unsafe instantly. • I stopped eating while using my phone or laptop, afraid of invisible gluten being on them. • I wash my hands after opening food packaging (since it was on store cashier belts where gluten food is placed). • I avoid sitting anywhere except my bed or one clean chair. • I won’t shake hands with anyone or walk past people eating gluten. • At school, when switching classes, I wash my hands before getting out my laptop, again before opening it, etc. • I open door knobs with my elbows instead my hands   Job Concerns (Powder Coating, Sandblasting, Etc.) I’m working a temporary job right now that involves: • Powder coating • Sandblasting • Wet spray painting • Anodizing There’s also a laboratory. I don’t need this job, and my OCD makes me believe that dust or air particles there might contain gluten somehow. Should I quit?   Doctors Haven’t Helped My family doctor told me: “Asymptomatic celiac isn’t serious, if you have no symptoms, your intestines won’t get damaged, so you don’t need a gluten-free diet.” I knew that was wrong, but he wasn’t open to listening. I just nodded and didn‘t argue. My gastroenterologist (who’s also a dietitian) said: „If your antibodies are negative, there’s no damage. It might even be okay to try small amounts of gluten later if antibodies stay negative.“ Also said, pepper that says “may contain gluten” is fine if it only contains pepper. She was more informed than my family doctor but didn’t seem to fully understand celiac either.   Questions I Need Help With 1. Is it realistically safe to eat food my mom cooks, if we get separate pans/ and boards even if gluten is still used in the same kitchen? There will always be low risk of cc chances like that she will still touch stuff that was touched by her and my siblings after they ate gluten. And as there are gluten eaters in the house and she also prepares and eats gluten. So would opening the fridge then getting the food and touching the food be okay? So basically what i am doing, washing my hands multiple times while preparing food, she would only wash it once before, then touch anything else (for example water tap or handles) that were touched with gluteny hands, then also touch the food. I dont know if I ever could feel safe, I could try telling her how important cc really is. And I trust her so she wouldnt lie to me then be careless about cc, but idk how safe it really can be if she and everyone else keeps eating gluten and touching stuff in the house after eating. 2. Do I need to worry about touching doorknobs, fridge handles, light switches, etc. that family members touched after eating gluten? What about public places like bus handles or school desks? Or like if i went to the gym, I would be touching stuff all the time, so there will be small amounts of gluten and those would get transferred on my phone if I touch my phone while in the gym. But I want to knos if it would be enough to do damage. 3. Is an endoscopy (without biopsy) enough to tell if my intestines are healed? I’d pay privately if it could help and if i dont get a refferal. Or do i need a biopsy? 4. Could my job (powder coating, sandblasting, etc.) expose me to gluten or damage my intestines through air/dust? 5. Do I need certified gluten-free toothpaste, hand soap, shampoo, or moisturizer? (For example: Vaseline and Colgate don’t contain gluten ingredients but say they can’t guarantee it’s gluten-free.) 6. Is spices like pepper with “may contain traces of gluten” safe if no gluten ingredients are listed? Or does everything need to be labeled gluten-free?  7. Is continuing to only eat my own food the better choice, or could I eventually go back to eating what my mom cooks if she’s careful? 8. is cutlery from dishwasher safe if there are stains? Stuff like knives is used for cutting gluten bread or fork for noodles etc. I often see stains which i dont know if its gluten or something else but our dish washer doesnt seem to make it completely clean. 9. I wash my hands multiple times while preparing food. Do i need to do the same when touching my phone. Like if i touch the fridge handle, I wash my hands then touch the phone. I dont eat while using my phone but i leave it on my bed and pillow and my face could come in contact with where it was.  10. Do i need to clean my phone or laptop if theyve been used by people who eat gluten? Even if no crumbs fall onto my keybaord, i mean because of invisible gluten on their fingers. 11. Does medication/supplements have to be strictly glutenfree? One company said they couldn‘t guarantee if their probiotics don’t contain traces of gluten.  12. I had bought supplements in the past, some of them say glutenfree and some of them dont(like the brand „NOW“ from iherb). I bought them and used them when i wasnt washing my hands so often, are they still safe? As I touched and opened them after touching door knobs, water taps etc. It was like a year ago when i bought those and even though i was eating gluten-free, I never worried about what i touch etc. I know this post is long. I’m just extremely overwhelmed. I’m trying to protect myself from long-term health damage, but the OCD is destroying my quality of life, and I honestly don’t know what’s a reasonable level of caution anymore. Thanks for reading.
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