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Gross Questions...new Symptom

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scottyg354 Enthusiast
scottyg354
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Ok guys,this post is a little graphic. Many of you know I have been having gut problems for quite some time. You can look back in my history to see my symptoms. I have to admit, I am currently Euthyroid and I do feel quite a bit better, but I still have this constant abnormal feeling and my GI Issues are still there. Recently I started having huge greyish colored bowel movements accompanied with incomplete evacuation. The movements smell terrible almost like a vomit/sulphur smell, so does my gas. The movements themselves are somewhat formed and somewhat not. They are litteraly that big they clog the toliet. They are also extremely messy. They are large even if I don't eat much. I rarely get full blown D just what I describe above most of the time 7 days a week. I have had 2 celiac panels, both of which were negative beside one showing a slightly elevated IgG at 11 which was 2 points above normal. All my bloodwork is fine (ie. liver panel, kidney panel) I had a colonoscopy and that was fine as well except for one polyp. Any idea what the hell can be cause these bowel troubles.

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GottaSki
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Hi Scotty!

 

Something is not agreeing with your digestive system.  Is that a possitive tTG IgG you mention?  If so, with your bowel issues I would make sure all the proper celiac testing has been done and then remove all gluten from your life -- I like to say I'm 99.99% gluten free as no one can be 100% gluten-free if they venture out their door.  Once you are certain you have removed as much gluten as humanly possible if you bowels do not improve it is time to look at other foods that may be causing the problem.

 

Good Luck :)

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mushroom
Posted

Grey stool can often be a sign that you are not making enough bile and/or digestive enzymes, and therefore fat is not being properly digested.  You should get this checked out with your doctor.

frieze Community Regular
frieze
Posted

Grey stool can often be a sign that you are not making enough bile and/or digestive enzymes, and therefore fat is not being properly digested.  You should get this checked out with your doctor.

yup, or your gallbladder isn't releasing it....good luck

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