Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

gluten-free But Undiagnosed...help!


runnergirl42

Recommended Posts

runnergirl42 Newbie

My sister was diagnosed with celiac 2.5 years ago. I largely cut gluten out of my diet as well. Our house is almost completely gluten-free. When I lived away from home during college, I would eat minimal amounts of gluten (a couple pieces of toast in the morning sometimes, but typically my diet consisted of whole foods without gluten). This past fall I noticed that I was getting diarrhea/stomach aches in the mornings (after eating toast!). Then I went away for a weekend and was served lots of food with gluten in it (and remember I didn't typically eat much gluten). I didn't notice a reaction right away, but a day or two later I was experiencing lots of diarrhea and stomach pain that lasted for days. At that point, I connected the dots between my morning toast and other gluten consumption and my stomach issues and decided to cut it completely out of my diet (November 2012).

 

Anyways, I've been gluten-free since November. At home it's a non-issue because gluten-free is the norm. During the school year I lived with non-gluten-free people, but I made all my own meals and had a separate cutting board/cooking pan and always cleaned the counters, etc and really didn't have any issues. I just started a year of volunteer service (2.5 weeks ago) and am living in an intentional community with 7 other non-gluten-free people. Not only are there gluten crumbs around, but other people are preparing many of my dinner meals (and we moved into a house...so old cutting boards/pans/utensils, etc.). I also started eating oats for breakfast, which I had cut out of my diet. Anyways, I haven't been keeping track but for at least the past week I've experienced diarrhea pretty much every single morning (multiple bathroom visits for 2-3 hours but then it would clear up), which I thought might be related to my oats consumption, so I cut them out again. The diarrhea got particularly bad a couple days again, so I started making all of my meals myself (lots of rice and cooked veggies to help the diarrhea). The diarrhea has ceased, but I'm left with lots of stomach pain now.

 

Would celiac symptoms come and go like that (diarrhea for a few hours every morning?)? I'm definitely not going back to ever eating gluten, but I guess the question now is how careful do I need to be? Clearly I'm having issues that need attention, but does it sound like celiac/gluten sensitivity? It's a lot of work to get 7 other people to be careful about CC. I hate that I can't be tested for celiac unless I eat gluten, because after all the pain I've been through this week there's no way I'd play around with eating gluten! 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



nvsmom Community Regular

It is very possible that you are getting gluten in your diet and you are reacting to it. All it takes to trigger the immune response is a small crumb, and repeated gluten ingestion will often make symptoms more severe. Is it possible to create a safer eating environment for yourself?

 

Is it possible that the water or food in the new place you are living is causing the problem? Is the water fine? If it's an old house, it could be molds or other chemicals causing a problem for you. Stress of living in a new place can throw some people off too.

 

Best wishes. I hope you figure it out and are feeling well soon.

Lock Newbie

I think you have nailed the problem. But you have been so good about being gluten free it might not be worth trying to go all gluten to be tested. The blood tests for antigens and the biopsy tests both need you to be on gluten to be accurate.

 

However, you can get the DNA test at any time and do not need to be eating gluten. If I were in your situation, I believe I would do that first. You can order the kit on your own if you don't want to involve your doctor. If your genes come back positive for celiac, I would think you can take it to the bank. This would not prove that you actually have villous atrophy at this time, but it would prove that you COULD at any point in the future and that a gluten free lifestyle is likely a very good choice for you.

 

But even if your genes are negative for celiac/gluten sensitivity, that does not mean gluten isn't your problem. In that case you may want to pursue further testing, but I think it is very likely you connected the dots correctly.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Scott Adams replied to Ginger38's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      21

      Shingles - Could It Be Related to Gluten/ Celiac

    2. - Scott Adams replied to GlutenFreeChef's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      1

      Blood Test for Celiac wheat type matters?

    3. - cristiana replied to Ginger38's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      21

      Shingles - Could It Be Related to Gluten/ Celiac

    4. - GlutenFreeChef posted a topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      1

      Blood Test for Celiac wheat type matters?

    5. - Scott Adams commented on Scott Adams's article in Diagnosis, Testing & Treatment
      2

      A Future Beyond the Gluten-Free Diet? Scientists Test a New Cell Therapy for Celiac Disease (+Video)

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,079
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    GlutenFreeChef
    Newest Member
    GlutenFreeChef
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Scott Adams
      Amen! I'm already bothering my doctor about getting an updated vaccine!
    • Scott Adams
      The type of wheat does not matter for the test--all wheat contains gluten. You need to eat lots of wheat daily for 6-8 weeks before a blood test. This article might be helpful. It breaks down each type of test, and what a positive results means in terms of the probability that you might have celiac disease. One test that always needs to be done is the IgA Levels/Deficiency Test (often called "Total IGA") because some people are naturally IGA deficient, and if this is the case, then certain blood tests for celiac disease might be false-negative, and other types of tests need to be done to make an accurate diagnosis. The article includes the "Mayo Clinic Protocol," which is the best overall protocol for results to be ~98% accurate.    
    • cristiana
      Sorry... I accepted it!  I don't want shingles EVER again! 
    • GlutenFreeChef
      I finally am seeing a GI specialist after being gluten free for over 10 years. When I turned 30 an allergy panel stated that I was allergic to wheat, barley, rye, oats, peanuts, soy, and crab/lobster. A friend who worked at a pharmacy said my results looked just like hers and that I was probably celiac or severely gluten sensitive, so I stopped eating gluten and everything else on my list. I felt better. Since November of 2024 I've been having issues that looked like thyroid, but could be EoE in combination with perimenopause and went off of dairy as well, which provided relief. While in Europe in November I decided to try eating wheat because I kept hearing rumors that I may not react to their wheat, and I didn't. I was so glad that now I'm importing it to make my own breads. My Homeopathic doctor said it was probably the glyphosates and pesticides that I am allergic too or reacting too, not the gluten. The GI wants to retest me for celiac and told me that I would need to switch back to American wheat products for the test to come out positive otherwise I may test negative since European wheat is different. This makes no sense to me. Gluten is gluten and is in the flour there as well as here. Please help, I don't want to ingest the pesticides and glyphosates for this test as I get severe migraines, bloating and joint pain when I do eat American wheat products. That is how I know I've had cross-contamination at restaurants. Does the type of wheat really matter???? I am so conflicted with this. The GI was getting irritated with me insisting that if gluten was really the issue that it would still show up regardless of where the wheat came from.
    • Scott Adams
      Speaking from experience, and as someone who was taking zinc in my multivitamins at the time of my outbreak, I would not rely on zinc or other supplements to prevent a shingles outbreak. That is what the new, extremely effective, 2 shot shingles vaccine is for, and this vaccine is very effective at preventing outbreaks. In my case I've not had shingles symptoms since I had the vaccine, which was over 10 years ago. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.