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#1 Dolcenotte

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 04:13 PM

I emailed them because I use many of their products and here is what they replied with:

hi Michelle!

thank you for contacting philosophy! for your reference, i have included a list of philosophy products that have been identified as containing gluten. the following items are not safe to use for those with gluten allergy:
save me
amazing grace conditioner
shear splendor conditioner
big blow off
time on your hands
pigment of your imagination

all other philosophy products are safe to use! i hope this information is helpful. please let me know if i may be of any further assistance! please also feel free to call us at 1.800.568.3151 with any additional questions you might have! we are happy to assist you Monday through Friday 7am - 5pm (mst). thank you, and have a great day!
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#2 ravenwoodglass

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 02:28 AM

Just a word of caution, I contacted them about Hope in a Jar and When Hope is Not Enough. I was told that both were safe, not the case. Hope in a Jar was but the other wasn't. I don't think the unsafe list they gave you was a complete one. I would advise checking each individual product you want to use and be sure to ask them what any vit E ingrediets are derived from, they may think that the vitamin E derived from wheat is okay, which it isn't.
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celiac 49 years - Misdiagnosed for 45
Blood tested and repeatedly negative
Diagnosed by Allergist with elimination diet and diagnosis confirmed by GI in 2002
Misdiagnoses for 15 years were IBS-D, ataxia, migraines, anxiety, depression, fibromyalgia, parathesias, arthritis, livedo reticularis, hairloss, premature menopause, osteoporosis, kidney damage, diverticulosis, prediabetes and ulcers, dermatitis herpeformis
All bold resoved or went into remission with proper diagnosis of Celiac November 2002
Some residual nerve damage remains as of 2006- this has continued to resolve after eliminating soy in 2007

Mother died of celiac related cancer at 56
Twin brother died as a result of autoimmune liver destruction at age 15

Children 2 with Ulcers, GERD, Depression, , 1 with DH, 1 with severe growth stunting (male adult 5 feet)both finally diagnosed Celiac through blood testing and 1 with endo 6 months after Mom


Positive to Soy and Casien also Aug 2007

Gluten Sensitivity Gene Test Aug 2007
HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0303

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0303

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 3,3 (Subtype 9,9)

#3 Lisa16

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 04:27 AM

Thank you Dolcenotte!

If we band together we can get a lot of up to date information pretty quickly. Like you, I wasn't finding information about many of the brands I use here and there was no info on the company website.

Maybe you can email them back, since they were so quick to respond, with the vitamin e quesiton. It does matter-- I got zapped by a lipgloss thathad no overt gluten ingredients except the tocopherol. I put a picture of my DH rash on my website :lol: Lucky it was just on my arm. :D

I only heard from about half of the companies I wrote.

Keep up the good work!

Lisa
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Posted 17 April 2008 - 12:15 PM

Just a word of caution, I contacted them about Hope in a Jar and When Hope is Not Enough. I was told that both were safe, not the case. Hope in a Jar was but the other wasn't. I don't think the unsafe list they gave you was a complete one. I would advise checking each individual product you want to use and be sure to ask them what any vit E ingrediets are derived from, they may think that the vitamin E derived from wheat is okay, which it isn't.


This is what I got off the When Hope is Not Enough Jar...whats the bad ingredient?
Ingredients
Water (Aqua), Prunus Amygdalus Dulcis (Sweet Almond) Oil, Lauryl Lactate, Pentaerythrityl Tetracaprylate/Tetracaprate, Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate, Cetyl Alcohol, Triethanolamine, Dimethicone, Ppg-2 Myristyl Ether Propionate, Glycerin, Cyclomethicone, Emulsifying Wax NF, DEA-Cetyl Phosphate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Peg-150 Distearate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Retinyl Palmitate, Borago Officinalis Seed Oil, Panthenol, Allantoin, Tocophersolan, Beta-Glucan, Arginine, Dioscorea Mexicana Root Extract, Sodium Carboxymethyl Beta-Glucan, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Carbomer, Acrylates/C10-30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer, Sorbitan Oleate, Fragrance (Parfum), Propylene Glycol, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Ethylparaben, Butylparaben, Propylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Disodium EDTA.

If its the Tocopheryl (vitamin E) then it can come from more then just wheat....its found in Wheat germ oil, nuts and seeds, whole grains, egg yolks, and leafy green vegetables. I will email them to ask them...i would hope that they would consider it gluten if it was from wheat ;)
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Posted 18 April 2008 - 02:13 AM

Oh I hope they are gluten-free I love When hope is not enough. I love all their products!

Susan
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Posted 18 April 2008 - 02:26 AM

Oh I hope they are gluten-free I love When hope is not enough. I love all their products!

Susan



If you are using it and not having any ill effects it most likely is safe. Companies do change formulations and it was a year or so ago that I checked. You may want to check and make sure. The items that differ in the ingredients in this as opposed to the Hope in a Jar are the alcohols and the fragrance and a number of other very chemical names. I am not a chemist and gluten ingredients can hide under a number of chemical names. I do so wish they would clearly label the source of all the chemicals they use, just telling us what the Tocepheral was derived from would help a lot.

The list that Moongirl gave:

"If its the Tocopheryl (vitamin E) then it can come from more then just wheat....its found in Wheat germ oil, nuts and seeds, whole grains, egg yolks, and leafy green vegetables."

These are food sources for vitamin E. In cosmetics and such the source is generally either soy or wheat.
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celiac 49 years - Misdiagnosed for 45
Blood tested and repeatedly negative
Diagnosed by Allergist with elimination diet and diagnosis confirmed by GI in 2002
Misdiagnoses for 15 years were IBS-D, ataxia, migraines, anxiety, depression, fibromyalgia, parathesias, arthritis, livedo reticularis, hairloss, premature menopause, osteoporosis, kidney damage, diverticulosis, prediabetes and ulcers, dermatitis herpeformis
All bold resoved or went into remission with proper diagnosis of Celiac November 2002
Some residual nerve damage remains as of 2006- this has continued to resolve after eliminating soy in 2007

Mother died of celiac related cancer at 56
Twin brother died as a result of autoimmune liver destruction at age 15

Children 2 with Ulcers, GERD, Depression, , 1 with DH, 1 with severe growth stunting (male adult 5 feet)both finally diagnosed Celiac through blood testing and 1 with endo 6 months after Mom


Positive to Soy and Casien also Aug 2007

Gluten Sensitivity Gene Test Aug 2007
HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0303

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0303

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 3,3 (Subtype 9,9)

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 04:19 PM

hi Michelle!

i do appreciate your patience while i gathered this information from our chief philosophy chemist! you may be happy to learn that the vitamin e in philosophy products is not derived from wheat! please let me know if you do have any additional questions! please also feel free to call us at 1.800.568.3151 with any additional questions you might have! we are happy to assist you Monday through Friday 7am - 5pm (mst). thank you, and have a great day!

kind regards,

marisa l.

hope, purity, grace


wow...chief chemist! Must be accurate!
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 05:14 AM

woo-hoo!

Another one for the "okay to use" list.

Thank you Michelle.
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 02:22 PM

Here is the response that I got.
Thank you for your patience. I was able to speak to our chemist and I was informed the vitamin e we use in our products is of synthetic origin. I hope this information is helpful. If I can be of any further assistance please let me know. Have a great day!

marisa solis
customer care specialist
philosophy, inc.
3809 east watkins street
phoenix, az 85034
800-love-151
www.philosophy.com


Its a good thing, but I wonder why their answers are not the same? Maybe different chemists? Either I can still use some of their stuff!
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#10 Dolcenotte

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 04:28 PM

I think it means the same thing (thank goodness) Can you imagine if they said it does contain wheat? I would never be able to trust a company again! I guess the way they tell you the information is slightly different but along the same lines depending on who you speak with.
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Posted 20 April 2008 - 02:52 AM

Here is the response that I got.
Thank you for your patience. I was able to speak to our chemist and I was informed the vitamin e we use in our products is of synthetic origin.

Its a good thing, but I wonder why their answers are not the same? Maybe different chemists? Either I can still use some of their stuff!


I wonder why they don't label it as the synthetic form then? The synthetic form usually has d- in front of the tocepheral. I would most likely try it if I recieved this response but I would do so when I was using nothing else that was suspect. I should note I have had no problems at all with the Hope in a Jar, in fact I find it quite nice, however the When Hope is not Enough did prove to be a problem for me. That does not however mean that others may not be able to use it safely. I just don't know as the company seems to give a different answer every time they are called.
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"I will try again tommorrow" (Mary Anne Radmacher)


celiac 49 years - Misdiagnosed for 45
Blood tested and repeatedly negative
Diagnosed by Allergist with elimination diet and diagnosis confirmed by GI in 2002
Misdiagnoses for 15 years were IBS-D, ataxia, migraines, anxiety, depression, fibromyalgia, parathesias, arthritis, livedo reticularis, hairloss, premature menopause, osteoporosis, kidney damage, diverticulosis, prediabetes and ulcers, dermatitis herpeformis
All bold resoved or went into remission with proper diagnosis of Celiac November 2002
Some residual nerve damage remains as of 2006- this has continued to resolve after eliminating soy in 2007

Mother died of celiac related cancer at 56
Twin brother died as a result of autoimmune liver destruction at age 15

Children 2 with Ulcers, GERD, Depression, , 1 with DH, 1 with severe growth stunting (male adult 5 feet)both finally diagnosed Celiac through blood testing and 1 with endo 6 months after Mom


Positive to Soy and Casien also Aug 2007

Gluten Sensitivity Gene Test Aug 2007
HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0303

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0303

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 3,3 (Subtype 9,9)


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