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#1 heliotrope42

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Posted 17 November 2010 - 08:43 AM

I've been eating gluten-free since my celiac diagnosis in the spring of 2003.

I started flirting with a cigar habit earlier this year. Simultaneously I started worrying about needing to go to the doctor for the chronic tightness in my left abdomen. It felt like I had a growth in there that was causing blockage. It's funny how I couldn't put two and two together! It was the same symptom, for me, as from gluten exposure. Often I would feel the tightness shortly after I lit up a cigar, and I wondered if the nicotine somehow had caused my intestines to spaz out.

In my reading about cigars, I found out that they brush on a paste, often containing flour, to the outer leaves as they roll the cigar. I emailed a cigar expert on allexperts.com, and he replied that as far as he knew ALL major cigar manufacturers use a paste that contains gluten.

I'm pretty sure he was talking about the fancier type of cigar that has an actual tobacco leaf rolled around the outside, not Swisher Sweets and the like that use a brown tobacco paper. But who knows about those cheaper cigars, either.

So I have no problem resisting croissants and pizza, but I'm still finishing my last cigar. I know I can't buy any more now that my denial has been shattered, and I'm not about to start smoking cigarettes, so I'm going to have to go through three days of quiet hell to kick this nicotine addiction. Sigh. I know, I know...

If there are any dedicated cigar smokers here who are celiac, I think the only solution is to roll your own. Perfectly acceptable cigar glue can be made from pectin or guar gum. I found a website that sells whole leaf tobacco for rolling. I'm not going to go down that road (I hope), because I don't want to make that type of formal commitment to this bad habit.
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Posted 17 November 2010 - 10:11 AM

I've been eating gluten-free since my celiac diagnosis in the spring of 2003.

I started flirting with a cigar habit earlier this year. Simultaneously I started worrying about needing to go to the doctor for the chronic tightness in my left abdomen. It felt like I had a growth in there that was causing blockage. It's funny how I couldn't put two and two together! It was the same symptom, for me, as from gluten exposure. Often I would feel the tightness shortly after I lit up a cigar, and I wondered if the nicotine somehow had caused my intestines to spaz out.

In my reading about cigars, I found out that they brush on a paste, often containing flour, to the outer leaves as they roll the cigar. I emailed a cigar expert on allexperts.com, and he replied that as far as he knew ALL major cigar manufacturers use a paste that contains gluten.

I'm pretty sure he was talking about the fancier type of cigar that has an actual tobacco leaf rolled around the outside, not Swisher Sweets and the like that use a brown tobacco paper. But who knows about those cheaper cigars, either.


So I have no problem resisting croissants and pizza, but I'm still finishing my last cigar. I know I can't buy any more now that my denial has been shattered, and I'm not about to start smoking cigarettes, so I'm going to have to go through three days of quiet hell to kick this nicotine addiction. Sigh. I know, I know...

If there are any dedicated cigar smokers here who are celiac, I think the only solution is to roll your own. Perfectly acceptable cigar glue can be made from pectin or guar gum. I found a website that sells whole leaf tobacco for rolling. I'm not going to go down that road (I hope), because I don't want to make that type of formal commitment to this bad habit.



REALLY??? My hubby got turned onto cigars about a year ago after being given a Java-flavored one. I have to admit that I enjoyed a few puffs of each that he has tried. Well, most of them, lol. I haven't noticed anything that would make me wonder about gluten in them, tho. However, I have often had a degree of bothersome issues and never knew why! Thanks for the info....I shouldn't be smoking anyway! : )
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Posted 17 November 2010 - 10:44 AM

Bravo for you--for both figuring this out and deciding to quit tobacco.

Have you considered trying hypnotherapy to help you quit? My understanding is that it is a lot more effective and quicker than many other methods. Of course any method you try you will need to be really motivated--both for the physical withdrawal and the mental one.

A friend used smoking a mixture of coltsfoot and mullein to replace the tobacco (rolled or in a pipe--doesn't stay lit long however). Helped with the withdrawal, soothed the nerves.

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Posted 17 November 2010 - 12:58 PM

no gluten:
http://www.cubancraf...aking_cigar.php
vegetable paste (?):
http://www.madehow.c...me-3/Cigar.html
pectin:
http://www.bat.com/g...ndocument&SKN=1
vegetable paste (may be same as above):
http://www.answers.com/topic/cigar
pectin:
http://www.thefreeli...er-a01073989976
egg white, guar gum:
http://www.coffinails.com/cigars.html
says vegetable glue contains gluten, but no specifics:
http://en.allexperts...s-use-flour.htm
says cap may be put on with flour paste, but you cut the cap off to smoke it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigar
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Posted 17 November 2010 - 05:33 PM

Heh. I think you're encouraging a bad habit. ;)
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 11:44 AM

I've been eating gluten-free since my celiac diagnosis in the spring of 2003.

I started flirting with a cigar habit earlier this year. Simultaneously I started worrying about needing to go to the doctor for the chronic tightness in my left abdomen. It felt like I had a growth in there that was causing blockage. It's funny how I couldn't put two and two together! It was the same symptom, for me, as from gluten exposure. Often I would feel the tightness shortly after I lit up a cigar, and I wondered if the nicotine somehow had caused my intestines to spaz out.

In my reading about cigars, I found out that they brush on a paste, often containing flour, to the outer leaves as they roll the cigar. I emailed a cigar expert on allexperts.com, and he replied that as far as he knew ALL major cigar manufacturers use a paste that contains gluten.

I'm pretty sure he was talking about the fancier type of cigar that has an actual tobacco leaf rolled around the outside, not Swisher Sweets and the like that use a brown tobacco paper. But who knows about those cheaper cigars, either.

So I have no problem resisting croissants and pizza, but I'm still finishing my last cigar. I know I can't buy any more now that my denial has been shattered, and I'm not about to start smoking cigarettes, so I'm going to have to go through three days of quiet hell to kick this nicotine addiction. Sigh. I know, I know...

If there are any dedicated cigar smokers here who are celiac, I think the only solution is to roll your own. Perfectly acceptable cigar glue can be made from pectin or guar gum. I found a website that sells whole leaf tobacco for rolling. I'm not going to go down that road (I hope), because I don't want to make that type of formal commitment to this bad habit.


I had some puffs of a cigar this past weekend and didn't connect it to celiac. Amazing how much there is to be learned from this forum!

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 06:08 PM

Loey- Just be careful...some of the information "learned" on this forum isn't always accurate. As with any open forum, some people post statements and make comments with very little facts other than hearsay. This particular thread for example has raised some questions. I have no information to say if cigars have gluten or if they do not because I'm not a smoker but its something to be aware of while being on this board!

Best wishes!
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Posted 21 November 2010 - 06:57 PM

Loey- Just be careful...some of the information "learned" on this forum isn't always accurate. As with any open forum, some people post statements and make comments with very little facts other than hearsay. This particular thread for example has raised some questions. I have no information to say if cigars have gluten or if they do not because I'm not a smoker but its something to be aware of while being on this board!

Best wishes!


Thanks!!! As a relative newbie i appreciate your input.

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 12:26 PM

I feel your pain. You could try a filter, that should help.

I also asked the doctors at the Beth Israel in Boston if sitting in a car with people who smoke cigars would affect my celiac. They have no study facts either way.

I am very new to this disease, about a year so I'm going to wait till i feel good for about a month before I try the filter.....good luck
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Posted 31 December 2011 - 07:01 PM

Good lord, are cigarettes the same? I ask because cigarette smoke has never been a problem for me whereas I get very ill quickly from cigar smoke. Interesting stuff...
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Posted 31 December 2011 - 07:14 PM

I feel your pain. You could try a filter, that should help.

I also asked the doctors at the Beth Israel in Boston if sitting in a car with people who smoke cigars would affect my celiac. They have no study facts either way.

I am very new to this disease, about a year so I'm going to wait till i feel good for about a month before I try the filter.....good luck



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Posted 31 December 2011 - 07:22 PM

Good lord, are cigarettes the same? I ask because cigarette smoke has never been a problem for me whereas I get very ill quickly from cigar smoke. Interesting stuff...

Aly,
Being newly to the diet, that's an awesome task, in itself. I would suggest you take small steps and master the gluten free diet. It took me several months to master it. I would certainly suggest that you concentrate on your food intake for now. Master that, then move on to other things as necessary.

Cigar smoke should not be on your gluten list, ever. :)
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Posted 31 December 2011 - 07:27 PM

Aly,
Being newly to the diet, that's an awesome task, in itself. I would suggest you take small steps and master the gluten free diet. It took me several months to master it. I would certainly suggest that you concentrate on your food intake for now. Master that, then move on to other things is its necessary.

Cigar smoke should not be on your gluten list, ever. :)


Oh, no worries! I am already an ex-smoker (thank GOD I don't have to tackle that! Only once in an lifetime please). But even back when I was a smoker, cigar smoke would make me come close to vomiting within minutes, with the cold sweat and everything. Never had any ideas why that would be, until (maybe) now. Unless cigarettes are the same. Who knows. I have too many other things to research these days!! :blink:
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Posted 17 April 2014 - 07:46 AM

Agio cigars (panter, Mehari, Balmoral, De Huifkar) use water and carboxymethylcellulose for adhesive. All their cigars are safe for celiacs (according to them (I received an email)).

 

Smoke up. I personally recommend the Panter Vanillas if you enjoy a mild smoke.


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 04:55 PM

All their cigars are safe for celiacs (according to them (I received an email)).

 

Smoke up.

 

Really?

 

Why encourage Celiacs who have enough problems already to smoke? Smoking isn't "safe" for anyone. You can do as you please, but c'mon we're trying to get healthier around here for cryin' out loud :)


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