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Study For Vaccine.......help


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valeriek Apprentice

Hello

I have not been on for a long time so I am hoping you all can help me.

I have a chance to do a study for a vaccine so I can eat normal again. I was diagnosed with blood and endoscopy. I really didn't have any symptoms. I found out by accident in 09 and have been gluten-free since.

Any way....this study is for a vaccine and I would have to eat gluten cookies every other day for 4 days, then get a vaccine. Thats pretty much the gist of it. ......I think. And I get $800.00 for doing it.

Can any one please tell me if this is a bad thing to do or safe or unsafe.

Thank you so much for reading.

Valerie


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GottaSki Mentor

In my opinion - this is your call.

For me - there is no amount of money that will make me regularly consume gluten - hmmm - perhaps there is a figure - but I think it would involve three or more decimal places ;)

Edited to add: Unsafe gets my vote.

1desperateladysaved Proficient

It isn't for me; I do not trust vaccines in general.  I would suggest that you look objectively at the ingredients in the vaccine to see if it would be wise to put it in your body.

Gemini Experienced

I agree with GottaSki.......I personally would not do it but I have horrible symptoms when glutened.  You have been gluten-free for a while so if you decided to take part in this, you might end up really sick because people tend to become more sensitive the longer they are gluten free.  You will be damaging your intestines to a point so please take that into consideration and don't do it just for the money.  If you do, I wish you the best of luck with everything!

 

I have one question for you.....do you think Celiacs do not eat normally?  ;):)

Pegleg84 Collaborator

My vote would also be no, but it is up to you.

I'd be interested in seeing details of the study? Who is running it? What is the "vaccine" expected to do? (there's been plenty of debate over whether or not a true return to eating gluten is possible, even with drug treatment) Is the risk of weeks/months of being sick worth $800?

There's a lot of questions and a lot of risks there, so do make your choice carefully.

Celiac Mindwarp Community Regular

I would want to know if it offers immunity from effects of eating gluten (unlikely) or what they expect the results to be for you. I would be extra wary if there was no follow up testing in the months after to establish if it has 'worked'. Would it be one off or need repeating? Are they early or late stage trials? How many humans have been tested, with what results? Will one group receive a placebo?

Sounds like you need to know a lot more before agreeing.

Would I do it? No chance.

Ollie's Mom Apprentice

Ummm... Why are you supposed to eat gluten, and THEN get the "vaccine"? How is that supposed to work? That's like getting the measles vaccine after you've already had the measles??

I wouldn't do it.


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kareng Grand Master

I say go for it, if you want. Someone has to test new meds.

I would make sure you really understand what you must do and what the follow- up is. It sounds like you don't really know enough to make a good decision. I'm assuming its a reputable medical center conducting it? Make sure they will give you treatment, at no cost to you, if something goes wrong. What your compensation is if you want to stop. What possible side- effects they have identified, etc. There are actual legal protocols in the US for drug/ medical testing. It is irresponsible for them to accept you into a study with the understanding of the testing you have written here.

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