Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Completely Overwhelmed – What Now?


Freebird

Recommended Posts

Freebird Newbie

At his point, I am flabbergasted. I just...uh. Please bare with me. I am apologizing in advance for a long post, and plenty of grammar & spelling mistakes :P

 

I have been reading a lot into Celiac Disease this past year. Almost 2. I have read a lot about symptoms & signs, as well as testing, treatment & everything in between. However I am so far beyond lost that I feel entirely overwhelmed.

 

I have had symptoms of Celiac my entire life. They however have not always been consistent or as defining as others. The main issue since I was an infant was unexplained Anemia; which came with it's own slew of symptoms like severe fatigue, headaches, anxiety & depression at times. As I said my symptoms were never consistent in type or severity, so it was really hard to pinpoint what exactly was the issue. So in between the ages of 2 years and 24 years old (I am 25 now), I have seen so many types of doctors and had so many different ideas. I have even had several diagnosis' throughout my life, even though most of the diagnosis' were categorized as 'slight' or 'not severe' (like POTS and IBS). I have had a lot of different opinions from cardio, neuro, general and even psychological specialists. However they all seem to be looking in the same area which is autoimmune. The most popular suspect for me was MS which I have been tested twice for (once at age 2 with a spinal tap and again at age 16 when brain imaging). Negative. As well for Lupus. There were no answers. Well, until I bumped into Celiac Disease searching for reasons for brain fog, anxiety & extreme gastrointestinal issues.

 

So I went to my GP and I did a EMA and tTGA test. Both came back negative, and my doctor seemed to drop the celiac idea.

 

Some info:

I am a military spouse & I go to the Naval hospital. I am a proud military spouse, daughter & sister. However the hospital I am stationed near is very limited in care. Most of anything besides basic care is sent to other (civillian) areas. And with the military I have to get a referral every time I need to see a specialist. And with the fact my doctor knows nothing about autoimmune disorders, as well as the military is making cut backs & we are in the middle of furloughs, equals to I really have no idea what to do.

 

I need to know:

What is next?

I saw my GP and took a blood test. Which came back negative.

What do I ask for? A certain type of test? The biopsy? A referral to a certain specialist?

What specialist do I ask for??? I really have no idea. A Gastro? AD specialist?

 

For a while after being, in my opinion, brushed off...I decided to back off. I ate anything I wanted, I didn't look into help for my migraines, my extremely painful joints, or any of my stomach issues. I was angry. However a couple of weeks ago, after I got extremely ill from the way I have been handling my gluten intake I developed a rash. Honestly, I thought it was some kind of shave bumps considering it is on my legs and thought nothing of it. Until tonight when I decided to cave in and look into Celiac more, and I cam across  dermatitis herpetiformis and I looked at pictures. And...wow. It looks like it. Also, it concurs with the fact that it itches as well as it is more of vesicles than just bumps. And I do not believe in coincidences.

 

Some back info:

I was gluten free for almost the whole year of when looking into celiac disease. And. I. Felt. Amazing. I was a different person. For one, my severe anxiety disappeared, as well as the horrid brain fog. Not to mention my stomach...oh my goodness! I went gluten free first because it is so hard to get an appointment & referral to a specialist at the NH. I did know though that you have to be eating gluten to be tested successfully. So I ate gluten for 5 months and was EMA tested. It came back negative. However I was (and still am) positive my issues are gluten related (and actual Celiac).So I stayed on gluten for another 4 months and took the tTGA test. It was negative also.

 

Considering the rash, I am calling the NH tomorrow and getting an appointment, to get a referral, to see a dermatologist about DH. I am hoping that will give some light on what to do next. Otherwise, I am completely & utterly lost.

 

 

 

 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



kareng Grand Master

Just a clarification - were you gluten free when you did Celiac blood tests? That would make the tests useless.

1desperateladysaved Proficient

I think you are on to something.  It sounds as if you passed the diet response test with flying colors.  Maybe you can have your skin rash biopsied.  Oh, I think you must be eating gluten for that.  You may want to talk to people in the DH rash (sorry I can't spell it) forum and see what they think.  It may be possible to post pictures for them to help verify.  Your other symptoms sound suspicious.

 

I can't say much else, but read some more posts, keep walking, and GET BETTER.  ***

 

D

nvsmom Community Regular

I was going to say the same thing as Karen, you must be eating gluten for a few months prior to testing or the results probably will not be accurate. As for the tests you did, the tTG IgA can miss up to 75% of celiacs and the EMA igA usually only appears positive if you have advanced damage. For example, when diagnosed with celiac I had a positive tTG IgA and EMA but after being gluten-free for a while, my tTG IgA fell to almost normal and my EMA went to negative.

 

Did you have a total serum IgA (immunoglobulin A) run? 5% of celiacs are deficient in IgA so any IgA tests run will be inaccurate.

 

For some people, the DGP tests (IgA and IgG)  are better at catching celiac disease. Some are negative in tTG and positive in DGP tests. The same can be said of the IgG based tests; there are more than a few board members who had positive tTG or DGP IgG and negative tTG or DGP IgA tests. You might to request DGP tests as well as the IgG based tTG tests. A normal doctor should be able to order those tests but a GI doctor might be of assistance if the normal doc can't help.

 

It could also be non-celiac gluten intolerance (NCGI) which has the same symptomas as celiac but no villi damage so the tTG, EMA and DGP tests will all be negative. Some doctors think the AGA (anti-gliadin antibodies) might work for both celiac disease and NCGI but it is not generally accepted. as of now, the only sure way to diagnose NCGI is a positive response to the gluten-free diet - you've done that so you are NCGI at the very least.

 

Good luck! Welcome to the board.

Freebird Newbie

Thank you everyone for the responses.

 

To answer your concerns, I was eating gluten again prior to the testing. The first time I was tested I ate gluten 5 months prior, and the second time almost 9 months prior. So I was glutenfied as I like to call it ;)

 

The whole celiac disease versus NCGI makes my brain spin; and for several reasons.

 

I could not get an appt. at all this next couple of weeks to see my GP today, but I might be able to get into someone's cancel next week. So I will definitely ask about DGP tests (IgA and IgG), as well as the DH rash.

 

Thank you :)

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,856
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Sonya Haskin
    Newest Member
    Sonya Haskin
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Jillian83
      He is. Which makes everything even more difficult. I’m not a believer in “staying for the kids” but I have nowhere to go and it’s not just me, it’s me plus my babies. We live in a beautiful place, lots of land in the country and me and the kids love the place we’ve called home for their entire lives. But Im seeing that he’ll never change, that my kids deserve a happy healthy Momma, and that staying in this as is will be the early death of me. Then I look at the scars covering my entire body…this disease and the chronic stress I’ve been enduring for years that tell me I’m no longer beautiful and no one will ever look at me with interest again. I try self care, try to give myself grace so I can just start loving myself enough to gain strength but the slightest sparkle in my eye and skip in my step attracts his wrath and it all comes crashing ten fold. Life is just absolutely railing me from every single direction leaving me wanting to wave that white flag bc I don’t feel like there’s much hope no matter what happens. 
    • trents
    • Jillian83
      Hi, I was recently diagnosed with Celiac and dermatitis herpetiformis after years of suffering without answers. I lost my mind. I lost my job. I lost so much time. I lost Me. Conventional doctors are opulent come near me and the one who did sat across the room, misdiagnosed me, pumped me full of steroids which collapsed my entire hip for 6 months. So without answers I began my holistic journey. Fast forward a couple of years and still struggling with a mysterious whole body itchy, crawling “skin hell”, perfect teeth now deteriorating, thick hair now thinning rapidly and no more than a day or 2 at most relief….An acquaintance opened up a functional medicine practice. Cash only, I found a way. Within a month tests clearly showing my off the charts gluten allergy/sensitivity as well as the depletion of vital nutrients due to leaky gut and intestinal damage. dermatitis herpetiformis was more than likely what I was experiencing with my skin. I was happy. I thought this is easy, eat healthy Whole Foods, follow the diet restrictions and I finally get to heal and feel confident and like myself again very soon! 😔 Supplements are very pricey but I got them and began my healing. Which leads to the other major issue: not working, stay at home Mom of young kids, entirely financially dependent on my man of 7 plus years. He’s never been supportive of anything I’ve ever done or been thru. He controls everything. I’m not given much money ever at a time and when he does leave money it’s only enough to possibly get gas. His excuse is that I’ll spend it on other things. So my “allowance” is inconsistent and has conditions. He withholds money from me as punishment for anything he wants. Since being diagnosed, he’s gained a new control tactic to use as punishment. He now is in control of when I get to eat. He asked for proof of my diagnosis and diet bc he said I made it up just to be able to eat expensive organic foods. Then after I sent him my file from my doctor he then said she wasn’t a real doctor. 😡. I go days upon days starving, sometimes breaking down and eating things I shouldn’t bc I’m so sick then I pay horribly while he gets annoyed and angry bc I’m not keeping up with all the duties I’m supposed to be doing. His abuse turns full on when I’m down and it’s in these desperate times when I need his support and care the most that I’m punished with silence, being starved, ignored, belittled. He will create more of a mess just bc I’m unable to get up and clean so that when I am better, I’m so overwhelmed with chores to catch up that the stress causes me to go right back into a flare from hell and the cycle repeats. I’m punished for being sick. I’m belittled for starving and asking for healthy clean water. I’m purposely left out of his life. He won’t even tell me he’s going to the grocery or to get dinner bc he doesn’t want me to ask him for anything. I have no one. I have nothing. Im not better. My supplements ran out and I desperately need Vitamin D3 and a methylated B complex at the very minimal just to function….he stares at me blankly…no, a slight smirk, no words. He’s happiest when im miserable and I am miserable.  this is so long and im condensing as much as I can but this situation is so complicated and disgusting. And it’s currently my life. The “IT” girl, the healthy, beautiful, perfect skin, perfect teeth, thick and curly locks for days, creative and talented IT girl….now I won’t even leave this house bc Im ashamed of what this has dont to my body, my skin. Im disgusted. The stress is keeping me from healing and I think he knows that and that’s why he continues to keep me in that state. He doesn’t want me confident or successful. He doesn’t want me healed and healthy bc then how would he put the blame of all his problems on me? This journey has been hell and I’ve been in Hell before. I’ve been killed by an ex, I’ve been raped, robbed, held hostage, abused beyond nightmares but the cruelty I’ve experienced from him bc of this disease is the coldest I’ve ever experienced. I’ve wanted to give up. Starving and in tears, desperate…I found a local food pantry in our small town so I reached out just saying I had Celiac and was on hard times. This woman is blessing me daily with prepared gluten free meals, donations, educational info, people who know this disease and how they manage life and the blessings just keep coming. But it’s overwhelming and I feel like I don’t deserve it at all. He just glared and I know he’s going to sabotage it somehow. I don’t even know what to do anymore. I’m so broken and just want peace and healing. 
    • cristiana
      @Colleen H   I am just curious,  when you were tested for coeliac disease, did the doctors find out if you had any deficiencies? Sometimes muscle pain can be caused by certain deficiencies, for example, magnesium, vitamin D, calcium, and potassium.   Might be worth looking into having some more tests.  Pins and needles can be neuropathy, again caused by deficiencies, such as iron and B12,  which can be reversed if these deficiencies are addressed. In the UK where I live we are usually only tested for iron, B12 and vitamin D deficiencies at diagnosis.   I was very iron anemic and supplementation made a big difference.  B12 was low normal, but in other countries the UK's low normal would be considered a deficiency.  My vitamin D was low normal, and I've been supplementing ever since (when I remember to take it!) My pins and needles definitely started to improve when my known deficiencies were addressed.  My nutritionist also gave me a broad spectrum supplement which really helped, because I suspect I wasn't just deficient in what I mention above but in many other vitamins and minerals.  But a word of warning, don't take iron unless blood tests reveal you actually need it, and if you are taking it your levels must be regularly monitored because too much can make you ill.  (And if you are currently taking iron, that might actually be making your stomach sore - it did mine, so my GP changed my iron supplementation to a gentler form, ferrous gluconate). Lastly, have you been trying to take anything to lessen the pain in your gut?  I get a sore stomach periodically, usually when I've had too much rich food, or when I have had to take an aspirin or certain antibiotics, or after glutening.  When this happens, I take for just a few days a small daily dose of OTC omeprazole.  I also follow a reflux or gastritis diet. There are lots online but the common denominators to these diets is you need to cut out caffeine, alcohol, rich, spicy, acidic food etc and eat small regularly spaced meals.   When I get a sore stomach, I also find it helpful to drink lots of water.  I also find hot water with a few slices of ginger very soothing to sip, or camomile tea.  A wedge pillow at night is good for reflux. Also,  best not to eat a meal 2-3 hours before going to bed. If the stomach pain is getting worse, though, it would be wise to see the doctor again. I hope some of this helps. Cristiana    
    • Me,Sue
      I was diagnosed with coeliac disease a couple of years ago [ish]. I love my food and a variety of food, so it's been hard, as it is with everyone. I try and ensure everything I eat doesn't contain gluten, but occasionally I think something must have got through that has gluten in. Mainly I know because I have to dash to the loo, but recently I have noticed that I feel nauseous after possibly being glutened. I think the thing that I have got better at is knowing what to do when I feel wiped out after a gluten 'episode'. I drink loads of water, and have just started drinking peppermint tea. I also have rehydration powders to drink. I don't feel like eating much, but eventually feel like I need to eat. Gluten free flapjacks, or gluten free cereal, or a small gluten free kids meal are my go to. I am retired, so luckily I can rest, sometimes even going to bed when nothing else works. So I feel that I am getting better at knowing how to try and get back on track. I am also trying to stick to a simpler menu and eat mostly at home so that I can be more confident about what I am eating. THANKS TO THOSE WHO REPLIED ABOUT THE NAUSEA .
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.