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Hello!

 

I have a 5 year old son that I believe is showing a lot of celiac signs. I talked to his doctor about it and she ordered a CBC, Metabolic Panel, Tissue Transglutaminase Antibody and IgA, Serum. All were normal. Specifically the Tissue Transglutaminase Antibody was <1 and the IgA Serum was 120 (24-300 is normal).

 

I also am having symptoms so I was tested as well but my doctor only ordered the Tissue Transglutaminase Antibody which was 7 and considered a weak positive (anything over 4 is positive).

 

We both have appointments next week but what should I ask for? Obviously I want to persue more testing for myself since there were antibodies detected, but should I go right for the biopsy or would other bloodwork be beneficial?

 

For my son, I know false negatives are common in young kids but at 5 would he fall into that category? What else, short of going gluten free and seeing if he improves, should I ask for?

 

Thanks!


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Just wanted to mention that I don't trust the "weak positive" thing.  When I was tested, the lab that did my bloodwork considered anything 11 and under as negative (different labs have different numbers).  I was a 13.  So I could have been considered a "weak positive".  But when I got my biopsy, I had moderate to severe villi damage.

 

This leads me to believe that positive is positive.  There doesn't seem to be much of a correlation between the actual number and the extent of the damage.

cmc811 Apprentice

Just wanted to mention that I don't trust the "weak positive" thing.  When I was tested, the lab that did my bloodwork considered anything 11 and under as negative (different labs have different numbers).  I was a 13.  So I could have been considered a "weak positive".  But when I got my biopsy, I had moderate to severe villi damage.

 

This leads me to believe that positive is positive.  There doesn't seem to be much of a correlation between the actual number and the extent of the damage.

I agree that a weak positive definitely needs to be considered positive and further testing needs to be done, but what specifically should I ask for? Straight to a biopsy?

 

And for my son, should I demand the DGP since it is typically better for kids since his tTG was negative?

NoGlutenCooties Contributor

I agree that a weak positive definitely needs to be considered positive and further testing needs to be done, but what specifically should I ask for? Straight to a biopsy?

 

And for my son, should I demand the DGP since it is typically better for kids since his tTG was negative?

 

If it were me, I'd request the biopsy - as long as your insurance will pay for it with what the doctor classifies as a "weak positive".  You may want to beef-up your gluten intake for about 2 weeks prior to the biopsy - just to make sure there's plenty of inflammation in there for a firm diagnosis.  If your insurance company won't pay for the biopsy, or if your doctor won't order it for you, you could do the equivalent of a gluten-challenge and eat 2 pieces of bread every day for a couple of months and then redo the bloodwork.  It may be enough to raise it to your doctor's liking for a biopsy.  Depending on how bad gluten affects you, this may or may not be an option for you.

 

I have no experience with kids - and I know things are a bit different with young kids, so hopefully someone else can give you some advice on that front.

cmc811 Apprentice

Thanks for your advice. Anyone want to weigh in on what to ask for in regards to my son?

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