Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

My Story--Looking For Similar People


dch028

Recommended Posts

dch028 Newbie

Hi all. Glad to be here and to have this forum. Thanks in advance for all replies.

 

June 2013: Sudden fever, swollen glands, white spots on tonsils, fatigue

--went to doctor to test negative for strep, given antibiotics anyway. Two weeks goes by and throat is less sore but still covered with white spots. Extremely tired. Back to doctor, given stronger antibiotic. Weeks go by. No improvement.

 

July 2013:

--Second doctor. Tested positive for Mononucleosis. Given an oral steroid to help tonsils (prednisone). The curious thing about this visit is that my blood pressure is, for the first time in my life, high. 155/95.

 

August 2013: Still very fatigued but other symptoms gone. Mouth ulcers begin to appear constantly. 3-5 at a time and constantly my companion. Blood pressure remains high.

 

October 2013: Mouth ulcers constantly, and a new symptom appears. I have almost constant muscle twitches. All over my body and random. These will twitch a few times then move to a new spot. No weakness or anythingelse. Blood pressure still high.

 

December 2013: Fatigue is gone for several months now. Have seen the doctor 5-7 times with no explanation for my constant mouth ulcers that still persist. Kidney panels and blood tests all normal. My blood pressure remains high and I am now on 5mg lisinopril to control it.

 

At this point I developed a new symptom, Geographic tongue. Bald spots on my tongue will appear randomly and migrate. I went gluten free and the spots were gone in 8 days. Over Christmas I ate "normally" and the spots returned in about a week. I have tested negative on the blood panel for celiac disease and all of my nutrient tests were normal.

 

The two constants right now are the mouth ulcers and the muscle twitches, as well as my high blood pressure. Could these symptoms, as well as the geographic tongue, be caused by nutritional deficiencies due to celiac? The gluten free diet seemed to help the mouth ulcers and the geographic tongue, but these could have just been a mere coincidence in timing.

 

Has anyone experienced anything similar and could my symptoms be a sign of celiac, or do I need to continue my quest for an alternate diagnosis?

 

Thank you so much for the replies!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



1desperateladysaved Proficient

I have high blood pressure, at times, that is helped by getting enough nutrients.  My fatigue I use to have gave way after getting rid of most of the foods I didn't tolerate.  Mono seemed to really begin my celiac symptoms 30 years back.  My other symptoms  included bloating, and mind fog.  Supplements helped my symptoms, but I really didn't recover until I went gluten free.

dch028 Newbie

Is it possible to be nutrient deficient and yet have normal nutrient blood samples?

1desperateladysaved Proficient

My Functional Medicine Nurse says that it is.  She explained that the blood needs to be kept stable, so if the body is short, the blood steals nutrients from the cells.  One lab tests white blood cells in order to see what the nutrient levels are inside of cells.  This is a Spectra Cell test and has recently been accepted by Medicare.

 

D

NoGlutenCooties Contributor

I agree with DesperateLady and her nurse - nutrient deficiencies will often show up in the blood last.  As an example, that's part of why Celiac causes osteopenia and osteoporosis - the body isn't absorbing enough calcium (along with Vit D and magnesium) so it steals it from the bones.  But the blood levels can be normal for quite some time.  From a survival standpoint, it is more important for the body to have calcium in the blood than it is for it to be in the bones.

dch028 Newbie

That's good information, thank you. Have any of you experiences muscle twitching with celiac?

kareng Grand Master

That's good information, thank you. Have any of you experiences muscle twitching with celiac?

 

 

I think those can sometimes be due to a  vitamin deficiency.  And Celiac can cause vitamin deficiencies


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



nvsmom Community Regular

I get the twitches in some muscles but it's not severe. It's enough that I can watch my muscles bounce around but it doesn't last long. Quad twitches are the most obvious and common for me.

 

I get mouth sores too. Those are related to many autoimmune diseases though. I still get them on occasion, but not as often as I did while eating gluten. They often happen when I get an autoimmune flare-up of some sort; they arrive with fatigue, headaches, arhralgias, sometimes swollen glands, and general feelings of unwellness. I have mistakenly thought I was getting sick a few times when they hit.

 

Mine all hit without any vitamin deficiencies. I'm at the low end of normal for A and zinc, and my D is in the lower bottom third of normal. For me, I think it is unrelated to vitamine deficiencies... could be wrong though.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Wheatwacked replied to Scott Adams's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      50

      Supplements for those Diagnosed with Celiac Disease

    2. - knitty kitty replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Scott Adams's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      50

      Supplements for those Diagnosed with Celiac Disease

    4. - Florence Lillian replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      11

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    5. - catnapt replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,356
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    JAGAPG
    Newest Member
    JAGAPG
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Wheatwacked
      Raising you vitamin D will increase absorption of calcium automatically without supplementation of calcium.  A high PTH can be caused by low D causing poor calcium absorption; not insuffient calcium intake.  With low D your body is not absorbing calcium from your food so it steals it from your bones.  Heart has priority over bone. I've been taking 10,000 IU D3 a day since 2015.  My doctor says to continue. To fix my lactose intolerance, lots of lactobacillus from yogurts, and brine fermented pickles and saurkraut and olives.  We lose much of our ability to make lactase endogenosly with maturity but a healthy colony of lactobacillus in our gut excretes lactase in exchange for room and board. The milk protein in grass fed milk does not bother me. It tastes like the milk I grew up on.  If I drink commercial milk I get heartburn at night. Some experts estimate that 90% of us do not eat Adequite Intake of choline.  Beef and eggs are the principle source. Iodine deficiency is a growing concern.  I take 600 mcg a day of Liquid Iodine.  It and NAC have accelerated my healing all over.  Virtually blind in my right eye after starting antihypertensive medication and vision is slowly coming back.  I had to cut out starches because they drove my glucose up into the 200+ range.  I replaced them with Red Bull for the glucose intake with the vitamins, minerals and Taurine needed to process through the mitochodria Krebs Cycle to create ATP.  Went from A1c 13 down to 7.9.  Work in progress. Also take B1,B2,B3,B5,B6. Liquid Iodine, Phosphatidyl Choline, Q10, Selenium, D and DHEA.     Choline supplemented as phosphatidylcholine decreases fasting and postmethionine-loading plasma homocysteine concentrations in healthy men +    
    • knitty kitty
      @catnapt, Wheat germ has very little gluten in it.  Gluten is  the carbohydrate storage protein, what the flour is made from, the fluffy part.  Just like with beans, there's the baby plant that will germinate  ("germ"-inate) if sprouted, and the bean part is the carbohydrate storage protein.   Wheat germ is the baby plant inside a kernel of wheat, and bran is the protective covering of the kernel.   Little to no gluten there.   Large amounts of lectins are in wheat germ and can cause digestive upsets, but not enough Gluten to provoke antibody production in the small intestines. Luckily you still have time to do a proper gluten challenge (10 grams of gluten per day for a minimum of two weeks) before your next appointment when you can be retested.    
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @asaT, I'm curious to know whether you are taking other B vitamins like Thiamine B1 and Niacin B3.  Malabsorption in Celiac disease affects all the water soluble B vitamins and Vitamin C.  Thiamine and Niacin are required to produce energy for all the homocysteine lowering reactions provided by Folate, Cobalamine and Pyridoxine.   Weight gain with a voracious appetite is something I experienced while malnourished.  It's symptomatic of Thiamine B1 deficiency.   Conversely, some people with thiamine deficiency lose their appetite altogether, and suffer from anorexia.  At different periods on my lifelong journey, I suffered this, too.   When the body doesn't have sufficient thiamine to turn food, especially carbohydrates, into energy (for growth and repair), the body rations what little thiamine it has available, and turns the carbs into fat, and stores it mostly in the abdomen.  Consuming a high carbohydrate diet requires additional thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  Simple carbohydrates (sugar, white rice, etc.) don't contain thiamine, so the body easily depletes its stores of Thiamine processing the carbs into fat.  The digestive system communicates with the brain to keep eating in order to consume more thiamine and other nutrients it's not absorbing.   One can have a subclinical thiamine insufficiency for years.  A twenty percent increase in dietary thiamine causes an eighty percent increase in brain function, so the symptoms can wax and wane mysteriously.  Symptoms of Thiamine insufficiency include stunted growth, chronic fatigue, and Gastrointestinal Beriberi (diarrhea, abdominal pain), heart attack, Alzheimer's, stroke, and cancer.   Thiamine improves bone turnover.  Thiamine insufficiency can also affect the thyroid.  The thyroid is important in bone metabolism.  The thyroid also influences hormones, like estrogen and progesterone, and menopause.  Vitamin D, at optimal levels, can act as a hormone and can influence the thyroid, as well as being important to bone health, and regulating the immune system.  Vitamin A is important to bone health, too, and is necessary for intestinal health, as well.   I don't do dairy because I react to Casein, the protein in dairy that resembles gluten and causes a reaction the same as if I'd been exposed to gluten, including high tTg IgA.  I found adding mineral water containing calcium and other minerals helpful in increasing my calcium intake.   Malabsorption of Celiac affects all the vitamins and minerals.  I do hope you'll talk to your doctor and dietician about supplementing all eight B vitamins and the four fat soluble vitamins because they all work together interconnectedly.  
    • Florence Lillian
      Hi Jane: You may want to try the D3 I now take. I have reactions to fillers and many additives. Sports Research, it is based in the USA and I have had no bad reactions with this brand. The D3 does have coconut oil but it is non GMO, it is Gluten free, Soy free, Soybean free and Safflower oil free.  I have a cupboard full of supplements that did not agree with me -  I just keep trying and have finally settled on Sports Research. I take NAKA Women's Multi full spectrum, and have not felt sick after taking 2 capsules per day -  it is a Canadian company. I buy both from Amazon. I wish you well in your searching, I know how discouraging it all is. Florence.  
    • catnapt
      highly unlikely  NOTHING and I mean NOTHING else has ever caused me these kinds of symptoms I have no problem with dates, they are a large part of my diet In fact, I eat a very high fiber, very high vegetable and bean diet and have for many years now. It's considered a whole foods plant based or plant forward diet (I do now eat some lean ground turkey but not much) I was off dairy for years but recently had to add back plain yogurt to meet calcium needs that I am not allowed to get from supplements (I have not had any problem with the yogurt)   I eat almost no processed foods. I don't eat out. almost everything I eat, I cook myself I am going to keep a food diary but to be honest, I already know that it's wheat products and also barley that are the problem, which is why I gradually stopped eating and buying them. When I was eating them, like back in early 2024, when I was in the middle of moving and ate out (always had bread or toast or rolls or a sub or pizza) I felt terrible but at that time was so busy and exhausted that I never stopped to think it was the food. Once I was in my new place, I continued to have bread from time to time and had such horrible joint pain that I was preparing for 2 total knee replacements as well as one hip! The surgery could not go forward as I was (and still am) actively losing calcium from my bones. That problem has yet to be properly diagnosed and treated   anyway over time I realized that I felt better when I stopped eating bread. Back at least 3 yrs ago I noticed that regular pasta made me sick so I switched to brown rice pasta and even though it costs a lot more, I really like it.   so gradually I just stopped buying and eating foods with gluten. I stopped getting raisin bran when I was constipated because it made me bloated and it didn't help the constipation any more (used to be a sure bet that it would in the past)   I made cookies and brownies using beans and rolled oats and dates and tahini and I LOVE them and have zero issues eating those I eat 1 or more cans of beans per day easily can eat a pound of broccoli - no problem! Brussels sprouts the same thing.   so yeh it's bread and related foods that are clearly the problem  there is zero doubt in my mind    
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.