Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

What Could Cause Elevated Igg And Iga In Toddler Other Then Celiac?


mmcc54

Recommended Posts

mmcc54 Contributor

My 21 month old goes in Tuesday for her second biopsy..first was neg..went on gluten challenge blood workd showed igg at over 100 and iga at 86...im nervous this biopsy would be neg too. Dr said if it was further testing would be in order..but what would they test for? what causes the elevation other then celiacs?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



GottaSki Mentor

My 21 month old goes in Tuesday for her second biopsy..first was neg..went on gluten challenge blood workd showed igg at over 100 and iga at 86...im nervous this biopsy would be neg too. Dr said if it was further testing would be in order..but what would they test for? what causes the elevation other then celiacs?

 

Are you talking about tTG-IgA and tTG-IgG -- i think you have answered this before, but if she has only had Tissue Transglutaminase antibody tests, then she should have the remaining celiac antibody tests run:

 

EMA-IgA

DGP-IgA

DGP-IgG

 

Good luck with the biopsies -- I hope they bring the answers needed for your family -- make sure the GI is going to take 6-8 samples of the small intestine -- since this is your second round it is important to be sure so you don't have to go through yet another challenge down the road.

mmcc54 Contributor

Thank you..im not sure exactly which the ran im hoping to go get the results today so I will post that info too....all they said over the phone was everything was super high positive, and another biopsy wasi n order, and if it was neg they would run more tests...so im just afraid if it is neg what else would they do? what do they test for with results like that other then celiac

NoGlutenCooties Contributor

I don't have kids myself, but I know I read that it can be difficult to diagnose Celiac in children and it is not uncommon for the biopsy to come back negative simply because they haven't been alive long enough for the damage to be significant.  There is a section in the forums dedicated to kids and kid-specific issues that you may want to check out.

mmcc54 Contributor

Thank you! I got her blood work today her tiss. transflutam ab, igg was >100 and her tissue transglutaminase iga ab was 2.5 and her TSH was 4.90 but that was ll they tested for

nvsmom Community Regular

The tTG IgA and IgG are pretty specific for celiac disease. The tTG IgA has a specificity of 91-99% as seen here: Open Original Shared Link The The tTG IgG has a specificity of about 95% as seen here: Open Original Shared Link site also shows a higher specificity for the tTG IgA - This means that 5% of positives (or less) are caused by something other than celiac disease.

 

When false positives do occur, it is a weak false positive. After almost 2 years of reading, reasearch, and posting on here more than my housework shoul allow, and I have never seen high poisitives caused by anything other than celiac disease.  On the other hand, I have seen a few WEAK positives caused by thyroiditis, diabetes (T1), crohn's, colitis,chronic liver disease, and infections. I have hypothyroidism and I am guessing that is what causes my tTG IgA to remain slightly/weakly elevated (at 20 point something when the upper normal limit is 20 - when first diagnosed it was over 200).

 

I see she has a pretty high TSH which would indicate hypothyroidism/thyroiditis at some labs. That could elevate her tTG IgA minimally. I'm afraid that I don't know is it would affect the tTG iGG - I REALLY doubt it would push it over 100 in any case. It's celiac disease.  ;(

 

Are you pursuing her high TSH too? If so, a recheck of the TSH would be good (near a 1 is normal), free T4 and free T3 (should be in the 50-75% range of your lab's normal reference range), and TPO Ab are good to ask for.

 

Best wishes.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Ginger38 replied to Ginger38's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      4

      Shingles - Could It Be Related to Gluten/ Celiac

    2. - Mari replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      18

      My only proof

    3. - Ginger38 replied to Xravith's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      2

      Challenges eating gluten before biopsy

    4. - Scott Adams replied to Xravith's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      2

      Challenges eating gluten before biopsy

    5. - Scott Adams replied to emzie's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      2

      Stomach hurts with movement


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,466
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Mike G Army EOD
    Newest Member
    Mike G Army EOD
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):




  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Ginger38
      It has been the most terrible illness ever! Going on 3 weeks now… I had chicken pox as a kid… crazy how much havoc this dormant virus has caused after being reactivated! No idea what even caused it to fire back up. I’m scared this pain and sensitivity is just never going to improve or go away 
    • Mari
      OKJmartes. Skin and eyes. Also anxiety and frustration. I have read that Celiacs have more skin problems than people who do not have Celiacs. I take increased levels of Vit. D3, very high levels of B12 and an eating part of an avocado every day. KnittyKitty and others here can add what they take for skin health. A Dermatologist might identify the type of skin condition. By eyes you may mean eyesight problems not just irritated, red eyes. It is not very difficult to get a diagnosis of which eye condition is affecting your vision but much more difficult to find an effective remedy. The ophthalmologists I have seen have been only a little helpful. There seems to have been some advances in eye treatments that most of them are completely ignorant of or just won't add to their treatment plans.  Forcertain you may as well buy some remedy from a facebook ad but that is obviously risky and may actually damafe your eyes. However it is known that certain supplements , taken at the effectivelevels do help with eyesight. Two of them are Luten and zanthamin (spelling?)and certain anti-oxidants such as bilberry..    Hope this helps.
    • Ginger38
      I refused to do the gluten challenge for a long time because I knew how sick I would be: I have always had and still have positive antibodies and have so many symptoms my  GI was 💯 sure I would have a positive biopsy. I didn’t want to make myself sick to get a negative biopsy and be more confused by all this.  He couldn’t guarantee me a negative biopsy meant no celiac bc there may not be damage yet or it’s possible to miss biopsies where there’s damage but he was so sure and convinced me I needed that biopsy I went back on gluten. It was a terrible experience! I took pictures of the bloating and swelling and weight gain during the challenge. I gained 9 pounds, looked pregnant, was in pain , couldn’t work or function without long naps and the brain fog was debilitating. And in the end he didn’t get a positive biopsy… so I wish I had never wasted my time or health going through it. I haven’t been truly straightened  out since and I am currently battling a shingles infection at 43 and I can’t help but wonder if the stress I put my body under to try and get an official diagnosis has caused all this. Best of luck to you - whatever you decide. It’s not a fun thing to go through and I still don’t have the answers I was looking for 
    • Scott Adams
      It's completely understandable to struggle with the gluten challenge, especially when it impacts your health and studies so significantly. Your experience of feeling dramatically better without gluten is a powerful clue, whether it points to celiac disease or non-celiac gluten sensitivity. It's very wise of you and your doctor to pause the challenge until your holidays, prioritizing your immediate well-being and exams. To answer your questions, yes, it is possible for blood tests to be negative initially and become positive later as the disease progresses, which is why the biopsy remains the gold standard. Many, many people find the gluten challenge incredibly difficult due to the return of debilitating symptoms, so you are certainly not alone in that struggle. Wishing you the best for your exams and for obtaining clearer answers when you're able to proceed.
    • Scott Adams
      It's smart that you're seeing the gastroenterologist tomorrow. While it's possible this is a severe and persistent inflammatory reaction to gluten, the fact that the pain is movement-dependent and localized with tenderness is important for your specialist to hear. It could indeed be significant inflammation, but it's also worth ruling out other overlapping issues that can affect those with celiac disease. Is it possible you got some gluten in your diet somehow? This could be a possible trigger. Hopefully, tomorrow's appointment will provide clearer answers and a path to relief so you can get back to your lectures and enjoy your weekend. Wishing you all the best for the consultation.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.