Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Anyone Allergic To All Grains?


cornbread

Recommended Posts

cornbread Explorer

Having had to cut soy and corn from my diet on top of casein and gluten, I've been 'testing' myself with small amounts of other grains, just to basically see what I can eat. I've found that a half slice of gluten-free bread made my stomach bloat (just like corn does). Last night I made a cup of brown rice pasta to accompany my chicken and brocolli, and after a couple of forkfuls my stomach was tight and bloated.

Do you think I'm reacting like this to all grains just because my body is so anti-gluten right now it's freaking out at anything slightly resembling it? Or do I have a problem with lectins as a whole? I don't have any other symptoms from these foods - don't get serious 'glutened' symptoms, just instant bloating and a hard, tight stomach. It's uncomfortable and unsightly, and doesn't go away for a few days. Perhaps I've developed a leaky gut?

I also got bloated the other day from a baked potato. It's all fitting in with the Paleolithic diet theory that we're not supposed to eat anything that would be toxic to us in it's raw state... Hmmm...

Btw, still waiting for my York allergy test results... 4+ weeks and counting... :angry:


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Rachel--24 Collaborator
Having had to cut soy and corn from my diet on top of casein and gluten, I've been 'testing' myself with small amounts of other grains, just to basically see what I can eat.  I've found that a half slice of gluten-free bread made my stomach bloat (just like corn does).  Last night I made a cup of brown rice pasta to accompany my chicken and brocolli, and after a couple of forkfuls my stomach was tight and bloated.

Do you think I'm reacting like this to all grains just because my body is so anti-gluten right now it's freaking out at anything slightly resembling it?  Or do I have a problem with lectins as a whole?  I don't have any other symptoms from these foods - don't get serious 'glutened' symptoms, just instant bloating and a hard, tight stomach.  It's uncomfortable and unsightly, and doesn't go away for a few days.  Perhaps I've developed a leaky gut?

I also got bloated the other day from a baked potato.  It's all fitting in with the Paleolithic diet theory that we're not supposed to eat anything that would be toxic to us in it's raw state...  Hmmm...

Btw, still waiting for my York allergy test results... 4+ weeks and counting...  :angry:

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'm having the same problems. No corn tortillas, dairy or gluten-free bread. I'm pretty sure I have leaky gut and I'm sensitive to chemicals as well. All of this gets much worse after a glutening or if I eat too many foods that bother me. If I eat very plain and organic symptoms improve and I can tolerate more.

My food sensitivity testing (Great Smokies) didn't reveal anything but that was 6 months ago and pre-gluten-free so maybe things have changed. Other tests I had done came back that I have dysbiosis and I think thats got alot to do with these sensitivities. I'm taking probiotics now and not eating those things that irritate the gut. Hopefully the gluten-free diet/ probiotics and avoiding foods that are hard to digest will help things along.

I had taken antibiotics while I was sick and the doctors didnt know what was wrong so just gave me anything. I think my body was too run down already and the antibiotics killed all my good bacteria and made me sicker. :angry:

I did take probiotics for awhile but I wasnt completely gluten-free and had malabsorption so I guess they didn't hold. Now that I'm gluten-free and stronger I'm hoping the probiotics will do much good.

nikki-uk Enthusiast

Corn bread,have you considered it may be starchy things(potato,rice-not sure about gluten-free bread)or maybe yeast?

Although I'm not a coeliac (my husband is)-I'm gluten-free too as my ezcema reacts to gluten.

I've found I get uncomfortably bloated after gluten-free bread and rice.

I'm trying to work it out too! :blink:

cornbread Explorer

That could be it Nikki - the gluten-free bread contains yeast. I too get excema from gluten.

Rachel - sorry to hear you're in the same boat, but at the same time I'm glad to hear it's not just me! I started taking a probiotic complex and essential enzymes a few days ago. What I'd read on the board made me suspicious of a leaky gut and adding something good back into my system seemed like a good place to start. I just can't see any other reason that a person would become intolerant of so many foods, one after another. I even considered the SC diet, but there is a lot of dairy, and I do so great on a paleolithic style diet which is not so restricitve, so I think I will just stick to that. If I can't ever eat grains/starches ever again, it's ok. I'm starting to understand not only do I not need that stuff to be healthy, but I positively thrive without it. If I just eat meat, fish, veggies, eggs, good fats and fruit, my energy goes through the roof and my mood is fantastic. I just feel so focused and ready for anything. I have to stop 'testing' all these other foods, because I clearly don't need them... I guess old habits die hard. For years we are told that we need wholegrains to be healthy, but I need to trust my body. :)

ianm Apprentice

Have you tried buckwheat (not related to wheat despite the name) or flaxseed? Those two don't bother me at all. Soy in large quantities makes me feel ill. I avoid potatos and rice because they cause me to get bloated and gain weight. It could be the starch that is causing problems.

  • 3 years later...
lm9 Newbie
That could be it Nikki - the gluten-free bread contains yeast. I too get excema from gluten.

Rachel - sorry to hear you're in the same boat, but at the same time I'm glad to hear it's not just me! I started taking a probiotic complex and essential enzymes a few days ago. What I'd read on the board made me suspicious of a leaky gut and adding something good back into my system seemed like a good place to start. I just can't see any other reason that a person would become intolerant of so many foods, one after another. I even considered the SC diet, but there is a lot of dairy, and I do so great on a paleolithic style diet which is not so restricitve, so I think I will just stick to that. If I can't ever eat grains/starches ever again, it's ok. I'm starting to understand not only do I not need that stuff to be healthy, but I positively thrive without it. If I just eat meat, fish, veggies, eggs, good fats and fruit, my energy goes through the roof and my mood is fantastic. I just feel so focused and ready for anything. I have to stop 'testing' all these other foods, because I clearly don't need them... I guess old habits die hard. For years we are told that we need wholegrains to be healthy, but I need to trust my body. :)

Hi there,

I know this blog was awhile back. I was wondering how things were going for you as far as this diet. I'm trying to do my own research on this. I too have this problem. I have to do the caveman diet to prevent any discomfort. The only thing wrong with this diet for me is that I lose a lot of weight from it and I can't afford to. So I usually break from the diet and binge on gluten free bread types to maintain my weight. The bloating stops after about 4 days after I continue the meat, veggies and some fruit diet. I thought it might be yeast that could be bothering me. I also am susceptible to colds when I do this diet. I'd like to hear from you about this topic if you don't mind. It would really help.

Thanks.

Crayons574 Contributor

I think grains of any kinds are hard on all of our stomachs. Buckwheat, like someone mentioned above might be a great option to try. It's really easy on my stomach. Also, quinoa and sorghum seem to be okay for me, but lately brown rice has been a problem. So, you may want to stick to a mostly 'Paleo diet,' which might be the easiest way to avoid problems (meat, veggies, fruits, nuts, )


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Gfresh404 Enthusiast

I personally do not think you are allergic to all grains. Of course, it is not uncommon for the body to be high alert for anything even remotely similar to gluten. I think your issue lies with insoluble fiber. It is very rough on the digestive tract and can throw off your digestion of fats. All whole grains contain insoluble fiber. It also explains your issue with the potato as well, you ate it with the skin on right?

Do you react to white rice?

Try avoiding all sources of insoluble fiber for a while and see if that makes a difference. This includes the skins of most vegetables and fruits, all whole grains and be careful of any added sources of fiber such as 'rice bran.' You'll also want to avoid cruciferous vegetables (lettuce, brussel sprouts, etc.). It might seem difficult to still eat healthy but these are what I usually stick to

- Tons of carrots

- Bananas

- Apples w/o skin

- Oranges

- Peas

- Strawberries

- Potatoes w/o skin

- Onions

- Tomatoes

- All peppers

I think you get the idea. And if you're uncertain about a specific food, you can get all this info online. Or PM me if you have any further questions.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - cristiana replied to Dizzyma's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      2

      Newly diagnosed mam to coeliac 11 year old

    2. - trents replied to Dizzyma's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      2

      Newly diagnosed mam to coeliac 11 year old

    3. - Dizzyma posted a topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      2

      Newly diagnosed mam to coeliac 11 year old

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,923
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    cmckurtz
    Newest Member
    cmckurtz
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • cristiana
      Hi @Dizzyma I note what @trents has commented about you possibly posting from the UK.  Just to let you know that am a coeliac based in the UK, so if that is the case, do let me know if can help you with any questions on the NHS provision for coeliacs.    If you are indeed based in the UK, and coeliac disease is confirmed, I would thoroughly recommend you join Coeliac UK, as they provide a printed food and drink guide and also a phone app which you can take shopping with you so you can find out if a product is gluten free or not. But one thing I would like to say to you, no matter where you live, is you mention that your daughter is anxious.  I was always a bit of a nervous, anxious child but before my diagnosis in mid-life my anxiety levels were through the roof.   My anxiety got steadily better when I followed the gluten-free diet and vitamin and mineral deficiencies were addressed.  Anxiety is very common at diagnosis, you may well find that her anxiety will improve once your daughter follows a strict gluten-free diet. Cristiana 
    • trents
      Welcome to the celic.com community @Dizzyma! I'm assuming you are in the U.K. since you speak of your daughter's celiac disease blood tests as "her bloods".  Has her physician officially diagnosed her has having celiac disease on the results of her blood tests alone? Normally, if the ttg-iga blood test results are positive, a follow-up endoscopy with biopsy of the small bowel lining to check for damage would be ordered to confirm the results of "the bloods". However if the ttg-iga test score is 10x normal or greater, some physicians, particularly in the U.K., will dispense with the endoscopy/biopsy. If there is to be an endoscopy/biopsy, your daughter should not yet begin the gluten free diet as doing so would allow healing of the small bowel lining to commence which may result in a biopsy finding having results that conflict with the blood work. Do you know if an endoscopy/biopsy is planned? Celiac disease can have onset at any stage of life, from infancy to old age. It has a genetic base but the genes remain dormant until and unless triggered by some stress event. The stress event can be many things but it is often a viral infection. About 40% of the general population have the genetic potential to develop celiac disease but only about 1% actually develop celiac disease. So, for most, the genes remain dormant.  Celiac disease is by nature an autoimmune disorder. That is to say, gluten ingestion triggers an immune response that causes the body to attack its own tissues. In this case, the attack happens in he lining of the small bowel, at least classically, though we now know there are other body systems that can sometimes be affected. So, for a person with celiac disease, when they ingest gluten, the body sends attacking cells to battle the gluten which causes inflammation as the gluten is being absorbed into the cells that make up the lining of the small bowel. This causes damage to the cells and over time, wears them down. This lining is composed of billions of tiny finger-like projections and which creates a tremendous surface area for absorbing nutrients from the food we eat. This area of the intestinal track is where all of our nutrition is absorbed. As these finger-like projections get worn down by the constant inflammation from continued gluten consumption before diagnosis (or after diagnosis in the case of those who are noncompliant) the efficiency of nutrient absorption from what we eat can be drastically reduced. This is why iron deficiency anemia and other nutrient deficiency related medical problems are so common in the celiac population. So, to answer your question about the wisdom of allowing your daughter to consume gluten on a limited basis to retain some tolerance to it, that would not be a sound approach because it would prevent healing of the lining of her small bowel. It would keep the fires of inflammation smoldering. The only wise course is strict adherence to a gluten free diet, once all tests to confirm celiac disease are complete.
    • Dizzyma
      Hi all, I have so many questions and feel like google is giving me very different information. Hoping I may get some more definite answers here. ok, my daughter has been diagnosed as a coeliac as her bloods show anti TTG antibodies are over 128. We have started her  on a full gluten free diet. my concerns are that she wasn’t actually physically sick on her regular diet, she had tummy issues and skin sores. My fear is that she will build up a complete intolerance to gluten and become physically sick if she has gluten. Is there anything to be said for keeping a small bit of gluten in the diet to stop her from developing a total intolerance?  also, she would be an anxious type of person, is it possible that stress is the reason she has become coeliac? I read that diagnosis later in childhood could be following a sickness or stress. How can she have been fine for the first 10 years and then become coeliac? sorry, I’m just very confused and really want to do right by her. I know a coeliac and she has a terrible time after she gets gluttened so just want to make sure going down a total gluten free road is the right choice. thank you for any help or advise xx 
    • xxnonamexx
      very interesting thanks for the info  
    • Florence Lillian
      More cookie recipes ...thanks so much for the heads-up Scott.  One can never have too many.  Cheers, Florence.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.