Homeopathic Doctors

[danikali]

I was just wondering if anyone out there has tried a homeopathic doctor. Not naturopath, but a doctor who gives you something called a "remedy." I tried one, and it seemed like it was working for a while, but when I ate my gluten, boom!!!!!! All the symptoms were back and now I wonder, maybe it takes a while for this remedy to work, or maybe it was "bull."

Anyway, more on this type of doctor. They give you a little tiny tiny tiny white dot of a pill, and you just suck on it until it is gone, and you only take it like once a day.

From what I read, and my homeo. doc. told me was that they look at your body as a "whole." From the inside out. They go by symptoms, no diagnosis, no tests. But when you tell them ALL of your symptoms, they look into their computer which tells them what remedy may be right for you based on your symptoms alone, and there ya go!

It came from a German man, in Germany of course, and it is supposedly HUGE in Europe. He came up with this theory that if he took totally healthy people, and gave them a "remedy" (completely natural pill, derived from things like snake intestines, leafs, whatever; pretty much anything from the earth), and those "healthy people" started to get symptoms say, bloating and constipation, he then gave that "remedy" to the "sick person" who naturally had bloating and constipation, and those symptoms would go away!!!!!! Also, because it is supposedly "all natural" there aren't supposed to be any side effects.

NOw, I thought this was too good to be true, and I felt like I was falling for some scam and it's really a "mind" thing.(where you think you will be healthy, so you do become healthy). On the other hand, sometimes I wonder if it really was working and I gave up too quick.

Has anyone gone to one of these doctors? If so, have you seen any improvments? Or have you heard of any "miracle stories" from friends or relatives?

One thing is I told him that I thought I might have Celiac disease, but was never tested, and if so, could just assuming I don't, hurt me? And he said, " you probably don't have it." Hmmmmm..................They work with everything from a skin rash that won't go away to Multiple Sclerosis. Now, if they actually work with these people, who have serious medical issues, isn't that a little risky? But also, couldn't they get in trouble if it is a bunch of crap and they are claiming to "heal" these really sick people?

What do you think ?

[mamaw]

Years ago I had a little white pill --- and yes I felt better but the practice moved so I was out of luck. I was not told at that time I had a wheat & gluten problem. I really don't think there is anything only diet for this.. I think if one is full-blown celiac then it's diet alone.but if it is not severe then I think some could get away with a small wheat item and not get deathly ill. But most celiac's use the same butter knife and get ill..... I have been doing bio-set and have ate a small wheat item---- my stomach cramped up at second bite the it went away and I had no other problems but that doesn't mean nothing is happenening as we can't see into our insides...

I do feel better since clearing away all my other sensitive foods which was just about everything..Since going wf/gluten-free I don't even have rosacea anylonger....

I would like to know the name of the white pill as it gave me energy and cleared my brain so if you have the name and where to get it I for one would like to know..

thanks

[lovegrov]

It's complete bull. There's no cure or little white pill that gets rid of symptoms.

richard

[KaitiUSA]

It's complete bull. There's no cure or little white pill that gets rid of symptoms.

richard

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I'm completely for alternative medicine but I have to agree with Richard on this one...there is no cure for celiac.

There may be things that may help with symptoms and everything but nothing right now takes place of the diet

[Nikki~Nathan&Danielle]

I am completely into homeopathy and have seen remedies do wonder for both of my kids (and I no longer suffer asthma). BUT, I recently spoke to my homeopath when Nathan was diagnosed and wanted to know whether homeopathy would help our case - she said NO, the remedies will help with the symptoms but will never get rid of it completely (which totally makes sense considering it's a genetic issue, not a regular "imbalance in the body" which is what homeopathy works on.

[danikali]

wow! Thanks for these replys.

I agree with all of you. For one, I know that when I was taking this "remedy," my symptoms didn't go away, but I felt happy and more with it. For example, the brain fogginess was gone and I had more energy and I just felt more optomistic about things. However, I still had muscle cramps, migranes, indigestion, etc.

I also agree that it is "bull" if you have the gene for celiac, but if you have some kind of imbalance that you need to just "straighten out" then the pill will probably help you.

I'm glad I wasn't depending on it though because like I said, the only thing it was changing was my attitude. Even though that is always a major part when you are sick, because if you don't believe you will get better, you won't, and vice versa, but it didn't solve the main problems which made me crabby in the first place!

Maybe I should take the pill (as I still have it) and go gluten free (like I plan to do again) when all my testing is over. There isn't any side effects, so I guess it won't hurt me, right?

"I would like to know the name of the white pill as it gave me energy and cleared my brain so if you have the name and where to get it I for one would like to know.."

I'm sorry, I don't have the name of the pill, he just called it a "remedy" but I live in NYC and the doctors name is Peirre Fontaine, so if you live anywhere near, I could give you his info........?

Thanks for your input guys!

[Felidae]

I'm all for natural ways to heal (i.e. herbal and looking at lifestyle, environment...), but not homeopaths. The little white pills are basically a sugar pill. I'll try to find the research on this.

[danikali]

I'm all for natural ways to heal (i.e. herbal and looking at lifestyle, environment...), but not homeopaths.  The little white pills are basically a sugar pill.  I'll try to find the research on this.

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oohhhhh good! yeah, if you can get that website that would be great! if true, I WAS SOOOOOOOOO RIPPED OFF! DO YOU KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE THAT CRAP WAS?!?!?! ANDD..................OF COURSE INSURANCE DIDN'T COVER IT!

I should have known it's a "mind" thing! Every time I asked the guy a question, he could never give me a straight answer..........and when he came up with some stupid one, I was like, wait, that makes NOOOO SENSE WHATSOEVER!!!

It goes to show how desperate I am, or was! And he told me basically celiac disease could be curred and that I probably didn't have it........? I was never even tested for it when I saw him, I was still just learning about it.

[mamaw]

I wonder why no one will give the name of the little white pill? It does sound weird but It gave me some energy which I don't get from sugar so I truly don't believe it is a sugar pill....I know it doesn't heal celiac's.... Is there any way you could get your naturpath to give the name of the pill?????I know naturpath's use alot of oriental medicines and I wouldn't want to offend anyone but I think years ago when a naturpath gave me one pill she said it was oriental medicine. I for one would rather try natural remedies verses the drug scene.

Maybe we have a naturpath on board who could give us a name of this???? I know it cleared my brain fog.

[danikali]

I wonder why no one will give the name of the little white pill? It does sound weird but It gave me some energy which I don't get from sugar so I truly don't believe it is a sugar pill....I know it doesn't heal celiac's.... Is there any way you could get your naturpath to give the name of the pill?????I know naturpath's use alot of oriental medicines and I wouldn't want to offend anyone but I think years ago when a naturpath gave me one pill she said it was oriental medicine. I for one would rather try natural remedies verses the drug scene.

Maybe we have a naturpath on board who could give us a name of this???? I know it cleared my brain fog.

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Hmm.... so you did notice a little something when you were taking the pill? So maybe it DID give me energy??????/ Yeah, I will ask my homeopath the name of it and write back when I know. What was your doctor giving you the pill for? I mean what symptoms exactly? Because I know that is how they decide which remedy you get...........

But I still wonder why my homeo. doc. told me I didn't have Celiac and if I did, it would still work......

[VydorScope]

Hmm.... so you did notice a little something when you were taking the pill? So maybe it DID give me energy??????/ Yeah, I will ask my homeopath the name of it and write back when I know. What was your doctor giving you the pill for? I mean what symptoms exactly? Because I know that is how they decide which remedy you get...........

But I still wonder why my homeo. doc. told me I didn't have Celiac and if I did, it would still work......

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If its truly a sugar pill as mentioned above *and the description fits* it WILL give you energy. Sugar = fast engery boost, and that will some times equate to clearer thinking. Byt you prbly find a candy bar cheaper and better tasting

[VydorScope]

Also, because it is supposedly "all natural" there aren't supposed to be any side effects.

Total decpetion. Lots of all natural things have side effects, some will even kill you. All natural is better then highly proccessed in many cases, but all natural does not equal good or even safe.

[danikali]

Total decpetion. Lots of all natural things have side effects, some will even kill you. All natural is better then highly proccessed in many cases, but all natural does not equal good or even safe.

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That's kinda scary because he was telling me they have ingrediants from snakes and stuff..................I don't know............I'm thinking medicane is medicane, and the best way to be healthy is through 100% organic (and gluten free) food. Am I right???

[mamaw]

The naturpath gave it to me for brain fog... I know sugar gives one energy but I always thought when one gets alot of sugar it makes one tired and fatigued. At least that is what happens in our house, plus irritable!!!! There are tons of people who do not believe in the non-traditonal ways and that's okay . I have seen diffeent non-tradional meds work and again I would rather try a herb than a drug.Of course you must be very careful with both for side effects. People should not just read about a non drug source and ran out and take it. Anyway if it is a sugar pill I sure felt my brain fog release and I did have an overall good feeling which I never got from eating sugar....

I just hope a naturpath will step up and talk about this as I have been curious for years about that little white pill........Surely we have one naturpath who has celiac's.

[VydorScope]

The naturpath gave it to me for brain fog... I know sugar gives one energy but I always thought when one gets alot of sugar it makes one tired and fatigued. At least that is what happens in our house, plus irritable!!!! There are tons of people who do not believe in the non-traditonal ways and that's okay . I have seen diffeent non-tradional meds work and again I would rather try a herb than a drug.Of course you must be very careful with both for side effects. People should not just read about a non drug source and ran out and take it. Anyway if it is  a sugar pill I sure felt my brain fog release and I did have an overall good feeling which I never got from eating sugar....

I just hope a naturpath will step up and talk about this as I have been curious for years about that little white pill........Surely we have one naturpath who has celiac's.

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There are great natural remdies... but there are alot more hoaxes and profiteering there then most ppl want to admit.

You "little white pill" coudl before real, but likly it was just a mild stimulant of some kind plus the placebo effect. I am surprised that so many ppl would take somthing with out know what it was you were taking. Thats not a very wise corse of action.

[Felidae]

Homeopaths will not divulge what is in the white pill. They just assure people that it will help. I took some for a bladder infection. Yeah right, I tried it with an open mind but eventually went to a doctor to get antibiotics because the white pill did nothing.

[VydorScope]

Homeopaths will not divulge what is in the white pill.  They just assure people that it will help.  I took some for a bladder infection.  Yeah right, I tried it with an open mind but eventually went to a doctor to get antibiotics because the white pill did nothing.

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Then why in the world would you take it? Drugs/etc we know about are bad enough, but somthing completely unknown? I just do not understand that at all, and realy hope I never do.

[Felidae]

I was young, stupid, newly married and living with the in-laws who had a homeopathic friend! Believe me I would not do the same now. I know what you are saying. I look into everything that enters my body now. I'm much older and wiser! LOL

[Guest Viola]

I always have to laugh at the term "all natural" I can go out in my orchard and pick a few things and cook you up a big pot of cyanide. St. John's Wort under certain circumstances can be very dangerous. Most of us can go out to our flower beds and harvest opium or digitalis.

Need I say more?

[Ursa Major]

There will be some homeopaths who are quacks, but there are TONS of medical doctors who don't have a clue what they're doing, too. In my community, I am certain that at least 75% of medical doctors fall into the quack category. Going to our local hospital's emergency room is like playing Russian roulette. It's so bad, that when you call ahead, they refuse to tell you which doctor is on call, because for a lot of the doctors, people (me included) would rather go much farther to the next hospital (unless every moment counts).

On the other hand, I see (in addition to my medical doctor) a homeopath as well. And she is ALWAYS quite happy to tell me exactly what is in the remedies I get. And Richard, it's NOT just a sugar pill. They do work when it's the right remedy. I have one that works wonders when I get glutened and have a terrible stomach ache.

But of course, these remedies can't possibly cure Celiac disease. Just like they can't cure my Asperger Syndrome or Tourette Syndrome. These are all genetic, and not really illnesses as such. Celiac will only become an illness when you don't stay gluten free. It doesn't need any remedies, just staying on the diet. But my little pills are handy and helpful when glutened, as my stomach cramps are truly awful then.

My homeopath has been very helpful with suggesting which supplements and foods would be best for me. She also gave me a list of foods that contain the most vitamin K, as I am obviously sorely lacking in that (as most Celiacs do). It's essential for blood clotting, and that's why it takes me forever to stop any bleeding. I get awful nosebleeds. Wouldn't you know, that brussels sprouts and green tea contain the most vitamin K of any foods? So, right now I am eating a lot of brussels sprouts (fortunately, I actually like them). Also, during the summer my potassium was very low (due to terrible diarrhea, it's one of the electrolytes). She e-mailed me a list of foods containing potassium (and no, bananas are NOT on the top of the list, but closer to the bottom of the good potassium foods). Actually, watermelon contains a ton more potassium than bananas. I ate a lot of watermelon all summer, and when re-tested had a perfect score on the potassium!

So, even though not all homeopaths know what they are doing (and you'll find clueless people in every profession), mine is great and has been most helpful.

[VydorScope]

Ursla,

No one (at least not what I read here) is saying all homepaths are quacks. But the specific ones mention here do seem to be. I am glad you have a good one. Just like not all doctors or hosipatls are as bad as you describe. I am VERY happy with most of our team of docs, and the 2 hospitals that we use here.

SInce your homeopath is good, mayhap you can clear up the mystery of this "little white pill" ? Can you tell us what is in it?

[shayesmom]

I am currently taking my dd to a homeopath to deal with food allergies and possible Celiac's. She is not receiving any kind of "white" pill, just the NAET therapy (acupressure/homeopathy/kinesiology). It seems to be helping with her allergies and my daughter can now have egg (which before would give her instant diarrhea). Never heard of the white pill. We just do a multi-vitamin, probiotics and omegas along with a healthy diet. We were not told we would be cured of Celiac's, but they did say they could help with the other food allergies and possibly reduce celiac symptoms in trace, accidental exposures. So far, so good....at least on eggs and food colorings. We will be treating for wheat either this week or next. I am a bit skeptical, but trying to keep an open mind.

As far as going gluten-free.....all patients with chronic illnesses are urged to go gluten-free (minimally, to avoid refined flour) at this clinic. They are all also told to take dairy and refined sugar out. It makes sense when you start looking at the medical studies behind those products and the role they play in many degenerative diseases.

My father began going to this clinic after being diagnosed with cancer. They made him no promises, took on an impossible case with a positive and hopeful attitude and went above and beyond ALL expectations when it came to his treatment. I've never been to a clinic where the doctors and staff were so involved in getting their patients well. They became my dad's own personal cheering section and when he died (several months beyond estimated prognosis and due to his MDs dropping the ball on a major complication with his chemo), the staffers and doc drove over an hour on a Sunday to be with us and pay their respects. Dad's oncologist didn't bother to even send a card or to call.

Are some homeopaths quacks?? Sure. But after my dealings with traditional medicine in diagnosing my daughter's issues and treating my dad, I can say that in my neck of the woods, there are more quacks in the Western Medicines than I care to know about. There is no such thing as a "magic bullet" against something like Celiac's. But there are things which can be done that will bring people to a higher level of health and potentially minimize the impact of it in some instances.

JMO

[danikali]

There will be some homeopaths who are quacks, but there are TONS of medical doctors who don't have a clue what they're doing, too. In my community, I am certain that at least 75% of medical doctors fall into the quack category. Going to our local hospital's emergency room is like playing Russian roulette. It's so bad, that when you call ahead, they refuse to tell you which doctor is on call, because for a lot of the doctors, people (me included) would rather go much farther to the next hospital (unless every moment counts).

On the other hand, I see (in addition to my medical doctor) a homeopath as well. And she is ALWAYS quite happy to tell me exactly what is in the remedies I get. And Richard, it's NOT just a sugar pill. They do work when it's the right remedy. I have one that works wonders when I get glutened and have a terrible stomach ache.

But of course, these remedies can't possibly cure Celiac disease. Just like they can't cure my Asperger Syndrome or Tourette Syndrome. These are all genetic, and not really illnesses as such. Celiac will only become an illness when you don't stay gluten free. It doesn't need any remedies, just staying on the diet. But my little pills are handy and helpful when glutened, as my stomach cramps are truly awful then.

My homeopath has been very helpful with suggesting which supplements and foods would be best for me. She also gave me a list of foods that contain the most vitamin K, as I am obviously sorely lacking in that (as most Celiacs do). It's essential for blood clotting, and that's why it takes me forever to stop any bleeding. I get awful nosebleeds. Wouldn't you know, that brussels sprouts and green tea contain the most vitamin K of any foods? So, right now I am eating a lot of brussels sprouts (fortunately, I actually like them). Also, during the summer my potassium was very low (due to terrible diarrhea, it's one of the electrolytes). She e-mailed me a list of foods containing potassium (and no, bananas are NOT on the top of the list, but closer to the bottom of the good potassium foods). Actually, watermelon contains a ton more potassium than bananas. I ate a lot of watermelon all summer, and when re-tested had a perfect score on the potassium!

So, even though not all homeopaths know what they are doing (and you'll find clueless people in every profession), mine is great and has been most helpful.

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WOWWWWWWWW! You DO seem to have a REAL homeopath doctor that REALLY wants to help AND learn about things that WILL help.

The one that I had never answered my questions fully. When I asked him things, he would give me a very dumb answer that didn't answer my question at all! Also, he put I think TOO much faith into the remedies and said your health has NOTHING to do with the food you eat. I SHOULD have known then because it's ALL about what we put into our bodies!

Anyway, you're are also right about the doctors. That's very sad about your hospital not giving out the doctors names. But honestly, I've been to nuuuumerous doctors these past few years, (I don't know 15-20?) and I have NOT found one that really knows what they are doing, or who is at least willing to figure it out with me!!!!!!!!

Where do you live by the way? Maybe I should see your homeopath!

[Ursa Major]

Richard, there is no such thing as THE little white pill. There are hundreds of different homeopathic remedies, all with a different ingredient. They all look the same when out of the bottle, though.

If you'd go to the healthfood store, you would see that they sell quite a few there, with different applications.

And it's not all placebos, either. When I started taking them, I was very skeptical and didn't believe they'd help at all. To my surprise, they did.

Sorry, I can't find my stomach remedy right now! I don't have a clue what I did with it. And I don't remember the name.

I know that I used belladonna for migraines, sulphur for diarrhea (which didn't help, since my diarrhea was not caused by the usual culprits), and I've used a few other ones.

I realize that some homeopathic doctors will not do anything other than prescribe remedies. Mine will recommend dietary supplements, tell me which foods to eat, even to go for testing to a medical doctor when her remedies and her advice fail.

Danikali, your homeopathic doctor truly was one to avoid, he didn't know what he was doing at all. The idea to declare that food has nothing to do with our well being! I live in Alliston, about 50 miles north of Toronto, Ontario in Canada. My homeopath is in Barrie, a half an hour drive north from here.

[danikali]

Yeah, and I feel stupid for going back to him for the second time. (I smartened up though after only 2 times of going to him).............even from the first visit, I had a bad feeling about him, just because nothing he said made sense! He would ramble on and give me answer with facts that I already knew, but had nothing to do with my question! But I was desperate and felt I had nothing to loose. Plus my fiance's aunt said she heard his name before and knew that he gave lectures in some local Universities and I also read that about him. (Even though, with the answers he gave me, I couldn't imagine him speaking to a whole auditorium of people!)

Anyway, you live and learn and move on, I guess, right?!