Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Location Location Location


wendylady

Recommended Posts

wendylady Newbie

Hi all -

 

I have been broken out in hives for about four months now. This is after going back on gluten for several months so that I could be tested (didn't want to take any chances!). I tested non-celiac. Shrug.

 

Anyway, the hives had nearly cleared up after I started taking high doses of vitamin D. I am usually deficient in this and now live in a very northern climate.

 

Then I ate my husband's homemade pasta two days in a row, and the hives have come back worse than ever. I'm now going gluten-free again of course.

 

But I hadn't thought about this being possible DH until this event. The hives are mainly on my torso and occur anywhere skin would rub together or clothes might be tight. So it's around my armpits, across my waistband, where my underwear lines are (I'm a lady), and under my breasts (bra line). It sometimes appears to be around my hair line behind my ears like the picture below - the skin will be itch and rough-feeling but not fully break out.

 

The hives occur very mildly in the crook of my elbows and behind my knees. Basically more like eczema, but it doesn't look like eczema. It looks exactly like this: 

open-uri20130325-3672-gicfh.webp?1386578

No blisters, but raised bumps that will seep and scab if I scratch them too much. They are insanely itchy.

 

Can DH occur in the locations I've mentioned but NOT the hands, or outer elbow/knees? And no blisters.

 

Thanks.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



kareng Grand Master

Maybe you are allergic to wheat?

GF Lover Rising Star

DH can show up in many different places.  Possibly look through the DH Photo Bank and some of the threads to get an idea where others have it.  Celiacs with DH may not sucessfully test positive on blood tests.  A biopsy on the skin adjacent to an active lesion is required.  You still must be eating gluten for a DH biopsy and should be done by a Dermatologist familiar with this type of biopsy.  An endoscope may also be advised if the biopsy is positive.

 

Good Luck,

 

Colleen

squirmingitch Veteran

wendylady,

60% of celiacs with dh test negative on the celiac blood panel. Does this rash often mirror itself on opposite sides of the body? Pressure points are a favorite place for dh to flare. Waistbands, bras, wrists from cuffs, panty lines. where socks are, you get the picture. I will NOT wear a bra anymore --- never was fond of the torturous things in the first place!  :P

DH can occur ANYWHERE on the body and is not always water blisters. Dh does ooze that watery clear fluid that is very sticky as it dries & then gets crusty & clear amber in color. That is eosinophils (white blood cells).

Does the itch ramp up even worse in late afternoon & either keep you awake at night or wake you up if you do get to sleep? 

 

I would advise as Colleen said to get a dh biopsy -- a CORRECT dh biopsy by a derm experienced in dh. 

squirmingitch Veteran
Lobstah Rookie

Sure sounds like it could be DH to me.  Most of the same areas that I get.

When you say "tested"...exactly what tests were performed?  Blood panels?, and if so, which ones?

Tricky thing about blood panels, especially the older ones, is that a good percentage of those that test negative actually DO have Celiacs.

 

Jim

ravenwoodglass Mentor

You have gotten some great advice already so the only thing I have to add is I have DH and I also have had hives. The lesions you are showing look much more like DH than hives to me. I also was a false negative on blood tests, at least the older ones, I don't know if I would have been positive on the newer DGPs. 

I hope you get some relief soon. 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Lotte18 commented on Scott Adams's article in Diagnosis, Testing & Treatment
      9

      A Future Beyond the Gluten-Free Diet? Scientists Test a New Cell Therapy for Celiac Disease (+Video)

    2. - knitty kitty replied to McKinleyWY's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      2

      Accuracy of testing concerns

    3. - trents replied to McKinleyWY's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      2

      Accuracy of testing concerns

    4. - McKinleyWY posted a topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      2

      Accuracy of testing concerns

    5. - trents replied to Teaganwhowantsanexpltion's topic in Introduce Yourself / Share Stuff
      4

      A little about me and my celiac disease

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,241
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Lectinfreetxn
    Newest Member
    Lectinfreetxn
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      Welcome to the forum, @McKinleyWY, For a genetic test, you don't have to eat gluten, but this will only show if you have the genes necessary for the development of Celiac disease.  It will not show if you have active Celiac disease.   Eating gluten stimulates the production of antibodies against gluten which mistakenly attack our own bodies.  The antibodies are produced in the small intestines.  Three grams of gluten are enough to make you feel sick and ramp up anti-gluten antibody production and inflammation for two years afterwards.  However, TEN grams of gluten or more per day for two weeks is required to stimulate anti-gluten antibodies' production enough so that the anti-gluten antibodies move out of the intestines and into the bloodstream where they can be measured in blood tests.  This level of anti-gluten antibodies also causes measurable damage to the lining of the intestines as seen on biopsy samples taken during an endoscopy (the "gold standard" of Celiac diagnosis).   Since you have been experimenting with whole wheat bread in the past year or so, possibly getting cross contaminated in a mixed household, and your immune system is still so sensitized to gluten consumption, you may want to go ahead with the gluten challenge.   It can take two years absolutely gluten free for the immune system to quit reacting to gluten exposure.   Avoiding gluten most if the time, but then experimenting with whole wheat bread is a great way to keep your body in a state of inflammation and illness.  A diagnosis would help you stop playing Russian roulette with your and your children's health.      
    • trents
      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @McKinleyWY! There currently is no testing for celiac disease that does not require you to have been consuming generous amounts of gluten (at least 10g daily, about the amount in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for at least two weeks and, to be certain of accurate testing, longer than that. This applies to both phases of testing, the blood antibody tests and the endoscopy with biopsy.  There is the option of genetic testing to see if you have one or both of the two genes known to provide the potential to develop celiac disease. It is not really a diagnostic measure, however, as 30-40% of the general population has one or both of these genes whereas only about 1% of the general population actually develops celiac disease. But genetic testing is valuable as a rule out measure. If you don't have either of the genes, it is highly unlikely that you can have celiac disease. Having said all that, even if you don't have celiac disease you can have NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity) which shares many of the same symptoms as celiac disease but does not involve and autoimmune reaction that damages the lining of the small bowel as does celiac disease. Both conditions call for the complete elimination of gluten from the diet. I hope this brings some clarity to your questions.
    • McKinleyWY
      Hello all, I was diagnosed at the age of 2 as being allergic to yeast.  All my life I have avoided bread and most products containing enriched flour as they  contain yeast (when making the man made vitamins to add back in to the flour).  Within the last year or so, we discovered that even whole wheat products bother me but strangely enough I can eat gluten free bread with yeast and have no reactions.  Obviously, we have come to believe the issue is gluten not yeast.  Times continues to reinforce this as we are transitioning to a gluten free home and family.  I become quite ill when I consume even the smallest amount of gluten. How will my not having consumed breads/yeast/gluten for the better part of decades impact a biopsy or blood work?  I would love to know if it is a gluten intolerance or a genetic issue for family members but unsure of the results given my history of limited gluten intake.   I appreciate the input from those who have gone before me in experience and knowledge. Thank you all!
    • trents
      I know what you mean. When I get glutened I have severe gut cramps and throw up for 2-3 hr. and then have diarrhea for another several hours. Avoid eating out if at all possible. It is the number one source of gluten contamination for us celiacs. When you are forced to eat out at a new restaurant that you are not sure is safe, try to order things that you can be sure will not get cross contaminated like a boiled egg, baked potatos, steamed vegies, fresh fruit. Yes, I know that doesn't sound as appetizing as pizza or a burger and fries but your health is at stake. I also realize that as a 14 year old you don't have a lot of control over where you eat out because you are tagging along with others or adults are paying for it. Do you have support from your parents concerning your need to eat gluten free? Do you believe they have a good understanding of the many places gluten can show up in the food supply?
    • Peace lily
      Okay went online to check green mountain k cups .It was said that the regular coffees are fine but they couldn’t guarantee cross contamination.with the flavors. im trying to figure out since I eliminated the suyrup so far so good. I’m hoping. thanks it feels good to listen to other people there views.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.