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Stool of a celiac child

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Fareeha Newbie
Fareeha
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Hello, 

I want to ask about dark green stool if my 6.5 years old daughter..she has been diagnosed as celiac patient, and recently had gone through a celiac crisis and by the grace of Almighty she has survived. Due to Corona crisis doctors are not easily available, i gave her multigrain glutenfree bread (chapati) last night, for the first time, after her celiac crisis episode...she passed a dark green formed stool n complained of stomach ache around belly button...she is okay now but still passing pale yellow and dark grreen formed stool. Can someone please let me know why is it happening...she is 6 years 7 months old and her weight is nearby 20 kg, not exactly 20 kg. Her weight was 18 kg when the celiac crisis occured two / three weeks ago and now she weighs almost 20 kg. Can someone help me find the reason of her green stools? She doesnt complain about stoomach ache now

Thank you.

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I am sorry that your daughter is ill.  I am glad you were able to get a diagnosis and that she is on her way to recovery.  Recovery does take time.  Most celiacs report taking a year or longer to heal.  Why?  The gluten free diet has a steep learning curve.  Also, most celiacs have food intolerances and allergies.  Some are common like lactose intolerance and others are unique to the person.  We are all different.  Keep a food and symptom journal for her.  

The gluten free bread you gave her?  Did you make it?  What gluten free grains were in it?  Did it contain Xanthan Gum?  She could have intolerances to any of those grains.    I ask because even though I have healed from celiac disease, my body does not like Xanthan Gum.   When first diagnosed, I could have ground corn, but not whole corn kernels.  Too hard to digest!   I used to be lactose intolerant but with time, that resolved.  However, I still can not consume garlic or onions because they will give me a stomach ache.  Other members report problems with soy or corn.  So again, keep a journal and stick with real food you prepare until she is feeling better.  

Try to avoid processed foods.  Stick to simple meats, fish, vegetables, fruit, and rice for a few weeks.  If her stool is green or yellow, it can be attributed to moving fast or lacking enzymes through her GI tract (I am not a doctor, but this is my personal experience).  Make the food easy to digest by cooking it until it is soft.  Anything, anything can hurt to digest if your intestinal villi is damaged and inflamed even if it is gluten free.  

Even now, if I accidentally consume gluten and my celiac disease is triggered, it can takes weeks for me to feel better.  I go back to my mushy foods diet of stews, soups, rice  and cooked fruit until I feel better.  

Read all that you can about the diet.  Research is your best defense.  We are here to help!  

 

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Fareeha
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1 hour ago, cyclinglady said:

I am sorry that your daughter is ill.  I am glad you were able to get a diagnosis and that she is on her way to recovery.  Recovery does take time.  Most celiacs report taking a year or longer to heal.  Why?  The gluten free diet has a steep learning curve.  Also, most celiacs have food intolerances and allergies.  Some are common like lactose intolerance and others are unique to the person.  We are all different.  Keep a food and symptom journal for her.  

The gluten free bread you gave her?  Did you make it?  What gluten free grains were in it?  Did it contain Xanthan Gum?  She could have intolerances to any of those grains.    I ask because even though I have healed from celiac disease, my body does not like Xanthan Gum.   When first diagnosed, I could have ground corn, but not whole corn kernels.  Too hard to digest!   I used to be lactose intolerant but with time, that resolved.  However, I still can not consume garlic or onions because they will give me a stomach ache.  Other members report problems with soy or corn.  So again, keep a journal and stick with real food you prepare until she is feeling better.  

Try to avoid processed foods.  Stick to simple meats, fish, vegetables, fruit, and rice for a few weeks.  If her stool is green or yellow, it can be attributed to moving fast or lacking enzymes through her GI tract (I am not a doctor, but this is my personal experience).  Make the food easy to digest by cooking it until it is soft.  Anything, anything can hurt to digest if your intestinal villi is damaged and inflamed even if it is gluten free.  

Even now, if I accidentally consume gluten and my celiac disease is triggered, it can takes weeks for me to feel better.  I go back to my mushy foods diet of stews, soups, rice  and cooked fruit until I feel better.  

Read all that you can about the diet.  Research is your best defense.  We are here to help!  

 

Thank you very much,

Your reply was really helpful. I have checked the ingredients, it has buckwheat, cassava, vegetable gum, rice and potato.

She might be allergic to any of these ingredients, so it's better that i stick to natural foods instead of artificial or processed things..i have to be extra careful because she had an episode of recurring fits/seizures for 2.5 hours during her celiac crisis. 

Once again thank you for your detailed and elaborated response.

Best regards ?

knitty kitty Grand Master
knitty kitty
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Fareeha, 

I'm so sorry your daughter is sick.  My heart goes out to you both.

I am not a doctor.  I am not providing medical advice.  I survived severe malnutrition before my diagnosis.  I was deficient in thiamine, as well as many other vitamins and minerals, because Celiac disease causes malabsorption.  I speak from my personal experience.  I'm familiar with the symptoms in me.  You decide if the information in these articles might apply to your daughter.

This gives an overview of thiamine deficiency called Gastrointestinal Beriberi....

https://www.caredash.com/articles/what-is-beriberi-learn-about-vitamin-b1-deficiency

This is another article with more information about thiamine...

Thiamine Deficiency in Tropical Pediatrics: New Insights into a Neglected but Vital Metabolic Challenge

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4906235/

And more information...

Neurological, Psychiatric, and Biochemical Aspects of Thiamine Deficiency in Children and Adults

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6459027/

And one more.....

Acute Thiamine Deficiency and Refeeding Syndrome: Similar Findings but Different Pathogenesis

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24985016/

 

Thiamine is also called Vitamin B1.  Thiamine is a water soluble vitamin.  Any excess is excreted in the urine. It is easily lost during illness, fever, and physical activity.  It is available over the counter.  Oral thiamine can work equally well as thiamine administration by IV. 

In one of those articles, it explains how thiamine deficiency can cause seizures brought on by fever.  

The body needs thiamine to turn carbohydrates into energy.  Without enough thiamine, gastrointestinal symptoms can develop.  

Thiamine deficiency can cause edema.  This might explain your daughter's weight gain.

I understand how busy doctors are.  I think this is serious enough to consult a physician as soon as possible.

Please keep us updated on your daughter's progress.

Prayers are with you both,

Knitty Kitty

 

 

 

 

23 hours ago, Fareeha said:

Hello, 

I want to ask about dark green stool if my 6.5 years old daughter..she has been diagnosed as celiac patient, and recently had gone through a celiac crisis and by the grace of Almighty she has survived. Due to Corona crisis doctors are not easily available, i gave her multigrain glutenfree bread (chapati) last night, for the first time, after her celiac crisis episode...she passed a dark green formed stool n complained of stomach ache around belly button...she is okay now but still passing pale yellow and dark grreen formed stool. Can someone please let me know why is it happening...she is 6 years 7 months old and her weight is nearby 20 kg, not exactly 20 kg. Her weight was 18 kg when the celiac crisis occured two / three weeks ago and now she weighs almost 20 kg. Can someone help me find the reason of her green stools? She doesnt complain about stoomach ache now

Thank you.

 

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