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Fungus ain't going anywhere fast and obesity


Mer123

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Mer123 Apprentice

Hi, I've just recently had my celiac biopsy.........I've been not eating Gluten ever since (only two weeks) all of my symptoms are already disappearing fast (none of which were GI) the chronic insomnia, gone, the edema, gone, decaying teeth, gone, ha no actually they've just stopped decaying, hive like rash, gone, the diet resistant obesity going (lost 2 kilos).  The thing is everythings going or gone except for the all over body fungal rash which astoundingly seems to be getting worse and worse, I've stepped up my game with it taking a daily pro- and pre-biotic........but nothing doing..........it stinks real bad and ain't going no-where but the worse thing about is that my doctor thinks its the main contributor to my obesity, as its overtaken all the beneficial  intestinal flora and fauna which can wreak havoc with ones metabolism (according to the lastest research) so as you can imagine I'm anxious to send this fungus on its way.........anyone got any tips?????? 


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knitty kitty Grand Master

Mer,

I would first discontinue the prebiotic and probiotic.  You're just feeding the fungus.  

I would go on the Autoimmune Paleo Diet... it promotes intestinal healing while starving off those bad bacteria and fungi.

Lots of help on Dr. Ballantyne's site and her book (she's celiac, too)...

https://www.thepaleomom.com/books/the-paleo-approach/

 

I would take supplements of niacin or Niacinamide (a form of niacin that doesn't cause flushing) because niacin helps fight that fungi.  See these studies....

Fact sheet on niacin

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Niacin-HealthProfessional/

And...

"Effect of Nicotinamide Against Candida albicans"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6443637/#!po=48.3051

And....

"Vitamin B3 as a novel approach to treat fungal infections"

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100708141617.htm

 

And for the obesity, I would take high dose thiamine like Dr. Lonsdale recommends here...

"Thiamine Insufficiency Relative to Carbohydrate Consumption"

https://www.hormonesmatter.com/thiamine-insufficiency-carbohydrate-consumption/

 

Niacin and thiamine are just two of the eight essential B vitamins.  They need each other to work properly, so I'd take a good B Complex vitamin in addition to the extra niacin and thiamine.  And magnesium because thiamine needs magnesium, too.

Oh, hey, wait!  I did do all that.  I feel much better now! 

Talk to your doctor about supplementing while you are healing and not absorbing well.  This is not medical advice.  This is what worked for me.  

Hope this helps! 

 

 

 

Scott Adams Grand Master

Be sure to see a dermatologist about the fungal rash, as it may not be related to celiac disease, and may be treatable with an anti-fungal cream or spray. 

Mer123 Apprentice
9 minutes ago, Scott Adams said:

Be sure to see a dermatologist about the fungal rash, as it may not be related to celiac disease, and may be treatable with an anti-fungal cream or spray. M

Thanks Scott, That's gold I didn't even consider that it could be unrelated to Celiac let alone seeing a dermatologist..........I'm going to get a referral for the dermatologist  ASAP

Mer123 Apprentice
8 hours ago, knitty kitty said:

Mer,

I would first discontinue the prebiotic and probiotic.  You're just feeding the fungus.  

I would go on the Autoimmune Paleo Diet... it promotes intestinal healing while starving off those bad bacteria and fungi.

Lots of help on Dr. Ballantyne's site and her book (she's celiac, too)...

https://www.thepaleomom.com/books/the-paleo-approach/

 

I would take supplements of niacin or Niacinamide (a form of niacin that doesn't cause flushing) because niacin helps fight that fungi.  See these studies....

Fact sheet on niacin

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Niacin-HealthProfessional/

And...

"Effect of Nicotinamide Against Candida albicans"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6443637/#!po=48.3051

And....

"Vitamin B3 as a novel approach to treat fungal infections"

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100708141617.htm

 

And for the obesity, I would take high dose thiamine like Dr. Lonsdale recommends here...

"Thiamine Insufficiency Relative to Carbohydrate Consumption"

https://www.hormonesmatter.com/thiamine-insufficiency-carbohydrate-consumption/

 

Niacin and thiamine are just two of the eight essential B vitamins.  They need each other to work properly, so I'd take a good B Complex vitamin in addition to the extra niacin and thiamine.  And magnesium because thiamine needs magnesium, too.

Oh, hey, wait!  I did do all that.  I feel much better now! 

Talk to your doctor about supplementing while you are healing and not absorbing well.  This is not medical advice.  This is what worked for me.  

Hope this helps! 

 

 

 

Thanks Knitty Kitty, I never thought a pre and pro-biotic could be feeding the fungus, ridiculous in hindsight because it's getting worse with those pre and pro-biotics as opposed to at worse staying the same or getting better with a gluten free diet...........I'm definitely going to ask/tell the doctor to look at giving me a script for  supplements.  I know like you say it's not medical advice but I have say......I have found with this celiac business in particular I've had to be my own doctor advising the real doctors what to do :  )

Posterboy Mentor
On 2/17/2021 at 3:04 AM, Mer123 said:

The thing is everythings going or gone except for the all over body fungal rash which astoundingly seems to be getting worse and worse,

Mer123,

You might have developed Lupus....which can be triggered by SIBO.

See this research that shows they occur together and treating it with Niacinamide helped the Skins Rashes people can develop when they get SIBO.

Entitled "Adult celiac disease followed by onset of systemic lupus erythematosus"

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18223501/

And this one showing how Pellagra triggered by SIBO was treated with Niacin...

Entitled [Pellagra and panniculitis induced by chronic bacterial colonisation of the small intestine]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15798565/

I wrote about these connections in Celiac disease and other GI problems in this Posterboy blog post maybe it will help you to read it!

There is no "Formula" but taking Magnesium Glycinate or Magnesium Citrate (with meals), a B-Comlex and Benfotiamine (Fat Soluble B-1) can help your Skin Issues'....

Pellagra only occurs after you have gotten low first in Vitamin B1 (Beri Beri) and (Vitamin B2) aka Pellagra Sine Pellagra.

They occur together and are progressive.....each symptom worse than the one before it...

The "Skin Trigger" (Symptoms) is actually a "Classic Sign" of Pellagra....

(B-Vitamins taken 2x to 3x daily will with Magnesium can show an improvement in two to three months IF indeed this is what is triggering your skin issues....But it is important you use a highly bio-available form of Magnesium (Like Citrate with meals or Magnesium Glycinate) and a highly bio-available form of Vitamin B1 like Benfotiamine for best results)

See this thread on Behcet's disease that explains these connections in more detail (if you want to still study) these connections...

WE only have ONE immune system with many faces (symptom's)...

I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advice.

Posterboy,

Mer123 Apprentice

Thanks Posterboy, I read those articles from your links, they've really enlightened me to the importance of not overlooking symptoms because they appear intially quite benign this complacency in me has turned a small rash into something quite different that I need to tell the doctor about as well as discuss the potential things she could give to treat.l it......such as it goes these days I have to "direct" my doctor rather then the other alway round


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