Joint Inflammation

[B.J.]

Hello - I was diagnosed a year ago by biopsy to have celiac disease. Since then I have been diligently eating a no gluten diet. I have noticed recently that the joints and tendons in the back of my feet are swollen and stiff. It feels arthritic. Doctor put me on a strong water pill....not helping. Has anyone experienced this? 

[knitty kitty]

@B.J.,

Welcome to the forum!

Celiac Disease can cause vitamin and mineral deficiencies because Celiac Disease results in malabsorption of nutrients.

Unfortunately, many doctors are not well versed in vitamin and mineral deficiencies.  They're trained to prescribe pharmaceuticals.

Thiamine Vitamin B 1 helps with edema in the extremities.  Water pills can cause more Thiamine loss and loss of electrolytes.

Along with magnesium, Thiamine helps stiff joints and fatigue.  Vitamin D can also help improve symptoms.  Vitamin D helps regulate inflammation in the body.

Thiamine Deficiency in a Nondrinker and Secondary Pulmonary Edema after Thiamine Replenishment

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7028406/

There are eight essential B vitamins.  They work together.  You need to take all eight together in a B Complex to get the most benefit.  Taking high dose Thiamine can have health benefits.

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Thiamin-HealthProfessional/

 

[trents]

1 hour ago, B.J. said:

Hello - I was diagnosed a year ago by biopsy to have celiac disease. Since then I have been diligently eating a no gluten diet. I have noticed recently that the joints and tendons in the back of my feet are swollen and stiff. It feels arthritic. Doctor put me on a strong water pill....not helping. Has anyone experienced this? 

Do you eat a lot of night shades (tomatoes, peppers, potatoes)? They can cause inflammation in the joints. May we ask what is your age?

[Wheatwacked]

2 hours ago, B.J. said:

the joints and tendons in the back of my feet are swollen and stiff. It feels arthritic.

Make sure you are are getting enough iodine in your diet.

Why a water pill? It what they would use for congestive heart falilure.

Symptoms of Iodine deficiency include: dry skin, muscle pain, headache, weight gain, poor memory, constipation, muscle cramps, depression, weakness and brittle nails, slow metabolism, leg swelling, ovary and breast cysts, hair loss, fatigue ( esp around 2-3pm e, insomnia and mental imbalance, irritable bowel, hyperactive disorder, fibromyalgia, various autoimmune diseases.

[B.J.]

1 hour ago, Wheatwacked said:

Make sure you are are getting enough iodine in your diet.

Why a water pill? It what they would use for congestive heart falilure.

Symptoms of Iodine deficiency include: dry skin, muscle pain, headache, weight gain, poor memory, constipation, muscle cramps, depression, weakness and brittle nails, slow metabolism, leg swelling, ovary and breast cysts, hair loss, fatigue ( esp around 2-3pm e, insomnia and mental imbalance, irritable bowel, hyperactive disorder, fibromyalgia, various autoimmune diseases.

I had blood work drawn this morning and the results show normal sodium, potassium, kidney function, GFR etc. (BMP panel) and also normal Iron. I am going to pick up some B1 and see if that helps.

2 hours ago, trents said:

Do you eat a lot of night shades (tomatoes, peppers, potatoes)? They can cause inflammation in the joints. May we ask what is your age?

I eat a lot of tomatoes, yes. I am 60.

[knitty kitty]

Pick up a B Complex with all eight B vitamins and additional Thiamine Hydrochloride and or Benfotiamine.  And Vitamin D 3 which will help down regulate inflammation.  And magnesium glycinate to make enzymes with Thiamine.

Nightshades promote leaky gut syndrome which can lead to inflammation in joints.  

[B.J.]

1 minute ago, knitty kitty said:

Pick up a B Complex with all eight B vitamins and additional Thiamine Hydrochloride and or Benfotiamine.  And Vitamin D 3 which will help down regulate inflammation.  And magnesium glycinate to make enzymes with Thiamine.

Nightshades promote leaky gut syndrome which can lead to inflammation in joints.  

Thank you Kitty...I am definitely going to give that a try. This is an awful feeling. I already take Vitamin D3, but will focus on the B complex and addl Thiamine. I didn't know that about nightshades! This is all very interesting!!! 

[knitty kitty]

So glad you are trying Thiamine and B Complex!  

Remember when we go gluten free, we lose a source of vitamins.  Vitamins are added to bread and gluteny stuff to replace the vitamins destroyed in processing and manufacturing.  Vitamins added to bread and gluteny stuff are cheap and shelf-stable (not in forms our bodies can easily utilize).  So, it's very important to supplement with vitamins that are bioavailable like Benfotiamine.  

I took high dose Thiamine while healing.  I took 300 mg with meals every day.  Flooding the body with Thiamine allows it to get into cells easily.  

The World Health Organization (WHO) says a thiamine deficiency can be diagnosed if health improvements are see in a patient after taking a minimum of 500 mg a day for several days.  Continue thiamine supplementation for several months.  

I had health improvements within an hour.  I was severely deficient.  It was truly amazing to feel better in such a short period of time.  I still take Benfotiamine and B Complex every day.  You can read more about my experiences on my blog. (Click on my name to go to my profile, and look in the Activities menu for a link to my blog.)

I'm looking forward to hearing about your results with Thiamine.

Keep us posted on your progress!  

[Wheatwacked]

Ingredients in original flaver Red Bull:  Carbonated Water, Sucrose, Glucose, Citric Acid (vitamin C, Taurine (an essential amino acid), Sodium Bicarbonate (neutalizes acid), Magnesium Carbonate, Caffeine, Niacinamide (B3), Calcium Pantothenate (B5), Pyridoxine HCI (B6), Vitamin B12, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Colors.

this may seem off the wall but try some Red Bull. A quick preview to what the B vitamins Nothing bad in it. Just vitamins and real sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup. High fructose corn syrup has to be processed by the liver first.  Glucose goes straight to the blood, giving that burst of energy while the vitamins are the ones needed to turn sugar into energy.  Eyes and brain especially need Glucose from carbs, not fat.  The Taurine targets the Reactive Oxygen Species. Oxidative stress in turn causes cellular damage and results in more reactive oxygen species being produced; a vicious cycle that contributes to a progressive decline in cellular function. Taurine reverses all the adverse effects derived from excessive oxidative stress via various mechanisms.

My blood sugar base is 180 ng/ml.  Very low carb diet. Oddly, the longer I fast the higher it goes, while small amounts of sugar lowers it.  A representative of a Keto Diet grudgingly admitted that some of their members reported high glucose on low carb. No meds other than prednisolone (secondary adrenal cortex insufficiency because I started on it in 2012 for the overwhelming pains, before discovering that the pain was gluten.)  and recently Chlonidine for high blood pressure (all other bp drugs cripple and dehydrate me; Lisinopril caused me an inguina hernia from the persistant cough.)

I am pain free and getting stronger. I was bedridden from 2010 to 2014 so still working on the atrophy.

An hour after drinking it my glucose goes to 225 ng/ml (as expected that's why we drink sugary soft drinks) then drops to around 150.

Last summer I combined B vitamins with choline and lost 30 pounds of belly fat.  Adding the Taurine and Kelp for iodine recently improved my muscle tone, brain function and general wellbeing.

 

1. 5 to 15 mg prednisolone maintenance dose because my adrenal cortex does not produce any cortisol.
2. Clonidine .2 mg 3 times a day for blood pressure. (was 180/79 even with meds, now between 130/65 and 118/60.

Daily Vitamins

• 10,000 IU D3  blood is constant at 80 ng/ml
• 500 mg Thiamine B1
• 500 mg Nicotinic Acid B3 you get used to the flush
• 500 mg Pantothenic Acid B5
• 1 mg B12 (1000 mcg)
• 1000 mg Taurine
• 840 Phosphatidyl Choline ( = 500 mg choline)

Breakfast is 17 to 24 ounces of Red Bull and an ounce (30 grams) rehydrated dryed kelp sheets cut into gummy worms.  very chewy and tastes like string beans.

Labs in two weeks so I'll see if they are as good as I feel.
 

 

Edited August 16, 2023 by Wheatwacked

[Wheatwacked]

I forgot to include 2 ounces of Cherry flavor magnesium citrate in 20 ounces of water.  Tastes like lemonade. Thats 580 mg of magnesium.

Last night at 9 pm my glucose was 180 mg/dl. Checked it just now, 6:30 pm. 124 mg/dl.