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Just got a call from Mark since I missed my earlier call.

Patti is resting comfortably. She has had some broth so far. He'll be bringing solid type foods tomorrow for her. She had a spinal. They almost didn't go ahead with it due to her cold. I wonder if the spinal helped with that or not. I forget what I had for my sections. We need to keep on her about not doing work she shouldn't be doing. For c-sections (I assume hysterectomies are the same) you couldn't lift more than 10 lbs for the first 6 weeks.

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L,

Can't wait to hear about your appointment. Always look forward to more possible answers for everyone. :)

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Judy and Andrea....thanks for the updates on Patti and Evie. I'm sad about Evie not feeling well again....I sent you an email Judy.

Well, the screening went well. The doctors see no reason why I can not go out of the country to a fairly major american facility that employs chefs that have anyines best intetrests at heart. I still have to take Bobbi (DW) to see the base Social Worker with me next week. They now have to know if she will be able to cope with my gone for so long. She jokes she will ask if I can leave sooner.

Ryan,

I hope all goes well with your wife. You gotta do everything you can for her....to make her feel she is #1 in your life and in your heart. I know it cant be easy for her. Good luck with everything!! :)

LLMD coming up in just a couple weeks.

OMG...I just thought of something. :o

Are you bringing your laptop??? I'll be dying to hear about it so please tell me you'll have computer access. :unsure:

This is the second day of my elimination diet and I feel like my body is crying out for all the stuff I can't have. I'm also extremely irritable. Is it too early to be having withdrawal symptoms from all the bad stuff, or is this all just in the mind?? I hope for DH's sake as well as mine that this irritability doesn't last long....

Nope....its not too soon to be feeling this way. It happens very quickly for me. I had the worst withdrawl ever my first week off "normal" foods. I was SCARED. I was also extremely obsessed with staring at the boxes of mac & cheese in the cupboards. I was shaking and sweating and having blood sugar problems...lightheadedness....you'd think I was coming off some narcotic or something. :blink:

I have been feeling better though I hesitate to say it, not that I am feeling well but I do feel that something has shifted and my health is on the upswing. This started over a week ago and though I am not hugely energetic the pain is receding and I am optimistic for the first time, in a very long time, that I am going to get well.

YAY Rinne!! Glad you are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Good news. I've missed you and hoped you were ok. :)

Candida...what an ugly monster.

Yeah....pure UGLINESS.

So the BioSET lady ordered a blood test? Wow, cool! :P

Yup...I'm telling you shes awesome. I have to say...so far she has proven herself to be more knowledgeable than every Dr./specialist I've seen in the past 4 years. I've seen probably more than 50 Dr.'s so thats saying something for sure. I'm not sure if she is *better* than my new Dr. but if not better than certainly equal. I can see why he values her input.

I forget why it's alkalinizing, but even though it's an acid, it alkalinizes the system. Other vinegars do not.

I use Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar.

Yeah...Bragg's ACV is heavily promoted on the Candida boards. I forget why excatly but I think Braggs is still in its natural state...its raw and thats why its all cloudy and not clear like other ACV's. I dunno....I was way too scared to ever try drinking it.

I don't think I could survive on a strict anti-candida diet, so I really feel for you guys who are having to go through that.

It wasnt that bad for me....I did it for 4 months...not a single piece of fruit or any sugar at all. No sweet or starchy veggies and no carbs. Just meat, fish, eggs and some veggies. Heck...I know if I can do it.....*anyone* can do it. I was the queen of fast food, mac & cheese and microwave dinners.

I have my app't on Friday morning with my LLMD. I saw the NP last time...this time is with the LLMD. I am looking forward to it-and also to getting more test results back!

I'm looking forward to hearing all about it. Good luck Laura....I hope the results give you some answers. :)

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Just got a call from Mark since I missed my earlier call.

Patti is resting comfortably. She has had some broth so far. He'll be bringing solid type foods tomorrow for her. She had a spinal. They almost didn't go ahead with it due to her cold. I wonder if the spinal helped with that or not. I forget what I had for my sections. We need to keep on her about not doing work she shouldn't be doing. For c-sections (I assume hysterectomies are the same) you couldn't lift more than 10 lbs for the first 6 weeks.

Actually I couldn't lift anything for 2-3 months afterwards. I reminded her that not just the outside is stitched, but the inside is stitched as well, so any pushing/pulling/lifting is going to put a strain on it all.

I wonder how long she will be in the hospital...I stayed in 4 days and they almost didn't let me go then, lol. Um, you have to pass gas before they let you out and well... :lol:

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OMG...I just thought of something. :o

Are you bringing your laptop??? I'll be dying to hear about it so please tell me you'll have computer access. :unsure:

Yeah...Bragg's ACV is heavily promoted on the Candida boards. I forget why excatly but I think Braggs is still in its natural state...its raw and thats why its all cloudy and not clear like other ACV's. I dunno....I was way too scared to ever try drinking it.

I'll have my laptop!! I always bring it! I hope the hotel has wireless ...

Bragg's is great! It does not taste bad at all (unless you think more is better like Adam does ... it isn't btw). It is raw, in it's natural state, which is why it's good for you. I wouldn't be afraid of it, at all!! I've been drinking it off an on for over 10 years ... not so much the past few years though ... interesting. I'll have to be more devoted to drinking it!! Have the BioSET lady check out whether you can tolerate it. It's good stuff. It's very refreshing to drink, not that you'll enjoy it like a Coke, but it feels refreshing.

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I'VE HAD PEOPLE SAY THEY DIDN'T GET MY EMAILS SENT THROUGH THIS FORUM SO IF YOU PM ME WITH YOUR ADDRESS I'LL BE HAPPY TO ADD YOU

LET'S ALL SAY SOME PRAYERS FOR EVIE.

Thanks for the update on Evie and Patti!

I PM'd you my email address.

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Actually I couldn't lift anything for 2-3 months afterwards. I reminded her that not just the outside is stitched, but the inside is stitched as well, so any pushing/pulling/lifting is going to put a strain on it all.

I wonder how long she will be in the hospital...I stayed in 4 days and they almost didn't let me go then, lol. Um, you have to pass gas before they let you out and well... :lol:

Donna,

When I was talking to her via pm's she said she would be released on Friday. With my sections they have pretty much the same requirements. If she's eating solids tomorrow she should be fine. I was really annoyed this last time as they wanted to restrict my diet more than the prior hospital the first two were born in. Mitch wound up sneaking things in for me. :) They didn't want me having too much fiber. I was asking for lots of fruit goes well after surgery and they restricted that. :angry:

If they want her out in two days they are going to have to let her eat. Hopefully she won't have any grief over that.

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Have the BioSET lady check out whether you can tolerate it. It's good stuff. It's very refreshing to drink, not that you'll enjoy it like a Coke, but it feels refreshing.

I'd bet money I cant tolerate it right now but I'll definately try it later when I'm doing better.

I went to Whole Foods and got a ph kit and also a book about all this stuff. The test kit also came with a mini booklet with alot of info.

Annyways, when I saw the mercury free dentist a couple years back he tested my ph. It showed up all the way yellow (acidic). He was telling me I was really bad off. He was the first to bring up candida and diet and all of that. But then when my regular Dr. tested my urine earilier this year they said I was too alkaline. :huh:

So I was thinking maybe I didnt really have candida because I was too alkaline. :unsure:

So now I tested my saliva and it looks to me like I'm to alkaline. I started reading the booklet and it says that too alkaline is actually the same as being too acidic. :blink: How confusing is that! :unsure:

Alkalosis usually occurs when the body becomes too acid, protecting itself by dumping large quantities of ammonia to overcompensate for the chronic acidosis. Both alkalosis and acidosis are an over acid condition.

Until you become balanced (it may take months), your readings may fluctuate widely. It is not uncommen to go from 5.5 (acid) to 8.0 (alkaline) in a metter of minutes. Both are an acid problem. Only excess acids will cause your body to pull buffers from tissues, sometimes overcompensating and resulting in a reading of 8.0 (alkalosis) an equally dangerous situation. Eating acid foods to correct an alkalosis reading will only make the situation worse.

Alot of good info. in these books and yeah.....it says an acid body causes candida overgrowth. The book starts out with the ABC'S....acid, blood and candida.

Apparantly for urine and saliva the ph can be off but it says the blood must remain at a perfect level of 7.35-7.45 ph or damage can occur to vital organs and life itself could be jeopordized. It says to maintain the ideal ph for the blood our bodies will leach the calcium (that is alkaline) right out of our bones and teeth to correct a too acid condition. It can lead to osteoporosis, kidney stones and tooth decay. :o

Oh MAN....how am I gonna fix my ph if I cant eat all the green veggies?? :(

My whole diet is mostly acidic. Out of 5 foods....3 are very acidic.

HOLY COW...it says people might notice their gold jewelery turning green against their skin......its cuz they are too acid. That happens to ME ever since I got sick. :o

This is really scary....it says the cells of your body become saturated with acid, or if you are running alkaline, parasites, fungi and bacteria are allowed to flourish. Soon the stage is set for disease. EEEEK.

It says stress in itself can cause an acid state. When we are always in a rush, grabbing fast food with a cola, eating in the car while we drive, we are creating stress, stress, stress, and more stress!!

OMG...that was me....I lived like that and in constant stress. Maybe my body was way too acid and then the antibiotics gave the candida plenty of room to take over my gut??? :blink:

Shheeeesh.....I hope this can be corrected. I hope the Bioset lady can help me. :(

It says that once all this happens you get malabsorption. You cant absorb nutrients from food and you cant utilize supplements in an acid environment. It will block the body's absorption of vitamins and minerals. :(

The acid waste sets the stage for the potentially devastating effects of a host of microscopic organisms in your body, starting with Candida.
AndreaB Contributor
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Yikes is right Rachel!

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Yikes is right Rachel!

BOO-HOO :(

AndreaB Contributor
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It's hard to see you like this :( when your picture is like this :D

That will be you now. I think Donna will always be this :lol:

diamondheart Newbie
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Almost anything sweet will do, but would really LOVE some chocolate, lol. I know I've been WAY overeating fruit. :(

Okay, so I guess this answers my next question which is "if it showed no yeast does that mean I don't have Candida". :lol: Darned STUPID candida. I'm almost sure I have a problem with it. I can't take many sugars of any kind before my body starts doing weird stuff.

Well, the adrenal fatigue could be the reason that your body doesn't tolerate sugar. I thought for sure I would have Candida, but my stool test didn't show it either. The weird thing is that when I was getting tested for parasites and pathogens by my GP, she never ordered a Candida test :blink: . I was so mad that she overlooked that.

Carla, thanks for the reminder about the magnesium. I knew that about chocolate cravings being caused by magnesium deficiency, but forgot about it :ph34r: . Even though I love chocolate, it does not love me. I'll try upping my magnesium.

Patti, hope your surgery went well! Remember to take it easy for a couple of weeks. I walked everyday after my laparoscopic myomectomy, even if I just did laps around my living room :lol: . I definitely think it helps. Driving in the car sucked for a week or so. I swear, my friend who drove me to the acupuncturist a couple of days after my surgery aimed for every pot hole and sewer cover in town :( . Also, I made the mistake of watching the movie "40 Year Old Virgin" a day or two after my surgery. That was the funniest movie I've seen recently, but it was a killer to laugh. Have you every NOT tried to laugh at a funny movie? OMG! Also, I learned the hard way that ibuprofen is really hard on your intestines (small intestines in particular), so if you are having intestinal issues, try to find something else to take for the pain, or make sure you take it with PLENTY of food. Happy healing :D !

Claire

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Apparantly for urine and saliva the ph can be off but it says the blood must remain at a perfect level of 7.35-7.45 ph or damage can occur to vital organs and life itself could be jeopordized. It says to maintain the ideal ph for the blood our bodies will leach the calcium (that is alkaline) right out of our bones and teeth to correct a too acid condition. It can lead to osteoporosis, kidney stones and tooth decay. :o

Great info Rachel! I learn a lot from your posts. I just read this to my hubby. He has osteopenia and kidney stones, and he has had urine tests that show high calcium leaching out of his body. His doctors didn't have any good explanations, and just gave him calcium supplements :blink: . DH seemed to be agreeable to this info, and he is a skeptical chemist! Maybe we have the answer to his kidney stone/osteopenia problems? I'm really excited to pursue this with him further. What are the references that you like on this topic?

Claire

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Great info Rachel! I learn a lot from your posts. I just read this to my hubby. He has osteopenia and kidney stones, and he has had urine tests that show high calcium leaching out of his body. His doctors didn't have any good explanations, and just gave him calcium supplements :blink: . DH seemed to be agreeable to this info, and he is a skeptical chemist! Maybe we have the answer to his kidney stone/osteopenia problems? I'm really excited to pursue this with him further. What are the references that you like on this topic?

Claire

Claire,

I dont have any online references at this point. I just went to Whole Foods last night and got the ph test kit and a book called "The pH Miracle". I'll find out more today when I go to Bioset....if I get to see Bioset lady #1.

Most of what I wrote last night came from the little guide that was provided with the test kit. Apparantly proper pH is very important for good health. Its required to be at normal body weight, for proper absorption of nutrients, vitmins and minerals, safe elimination of bodily toxins.....and obviously to prevent the "uglies" like candida from taking over.

I tested again this morning and again...I'm all the way in the high alkaline range (8.0). :(

I guess this means that my body is dumping ammonia in order to compensate for being too acidic.

Check out this quote....it makes alot of sense.

"If I could live my life all over again, I would devote it to proving that germs seek their natural habitat (diseased tissue) rather than being the cause of diseased tissue; e.g, mosquitos seek the stagnant water, but do not cause the pool to become stagnant."

I'll post more on the subject though....as I learn. It sounds like your hubby could definately improve his health by correcting his pH. I hope it helps!!

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Yep, this is what my mom and I were talking about...great way to get in a little exercise but be really careful about breakables. :lol: I actually think I'd LOVE this if it had a tennis game, or bowling, or dancing or something like that. Can't justify buying it for only 1 or 2 games though. Course, I somehow justified buying 250 exercise videos, so maybe there's hope. :lol:

Donna,

Bobbi bought the "eye toy" for my PS2, and it came with a "game" that makes up a 12 week routine for you, and increases the difficulty of the games as you go. They are geared for a cardio workout and the like, so that over 12 weeks, you actually get in shape while playing the game.

Judy,

I wonder if they had to take both ovaries. I know she wanted to keep as much as possible.

I'm planning on calling her at home early next week. Didn't want to bother her before that.

I'll be looking forward to any updates you have before then. :)

They had to for my mother, and she found that recovery was quick, but not easy. She was laid out for about a week, and then life was back to normal.

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I dont have any online references at this point. I just went to Whole Foods last night and got the ph test kit and a book called "The pH Miracle". I'll find out more today when I go to Bioset....if I get to see Bioset lady #1.

OMGosh, I think I have this book. :lol: I hope I didn't throw it out. I've not read it yet though...my old chiropractor is the one who suggested my pH might be out of balance, so I bought it, but never read it cuz my brain just couldn't get around much back then.

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Bobbi bought the "eye toy" for my PS2, and it came with a "game" that makes up a 12 week routine for you, and increases the difficulty of the games as you go. They are geared for a cardio workout and the like, so that over 12 weeks, you actually get in shape while playing the game.

Hum, I think I know which one this is...I belong to a fitness forum and people were talking about it. I almost bought the stupid PS2 just for this game alone, lol. :lol:

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Well, the adrenal fatigue could be the reason that your body doesn't tolerate sugar. I thought for sure I would have Candida, but my stool test didn't show it either. The weird thing is that when I was getting tested for parasites and pathogens by my GP, she never ordered a Candida test :blink: . I was so mad that she overlooked that.

You know, my doctor didn't really say anything about what to eat for the adrenal fatigue. All the info I have is what I've learned from Carla, lol. I think I'll try a 2 week test run without fruits and see what happens. I guess test included Candida--it only said *yeast*, so I'm not sure...it definitely wasn't a separate test.

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Annyways, when I saw the mercury free dentist a couple years back he tested my ph. It showed up all the way yellow (acidic). He was telling me I was really bad off. He was the first to bring up candida and diet and all of that. But then when my regular Dr. tested my urine earilier this year they said I was too alkaline. :huh:

Was this Dr. Adams? I see him next week for my next removal, so I was going to ask him about chelation...I'll also ask about pH.

CarlaB Enthusiast
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You know, my doctor didn't really say anything about what to eat for the adrenal fatigue. All the info I have is what I've learned from Carla, lol. I think I'll try a 2 week test run without fruits and see what happens. I guess test included Candida--it only said *yeast*, so I'm not sure...it definitely wasn't a separate test.

The adrenal diet my doc had me on allowed no more than one piece of fruit per day ... even that was not recommended, only allowed. It was all meat, eggs and veggies with some limited starchy carbs.

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The adrenal diet my doc had me on allowed no more than one piece of fruit per day ... even that was not recommended, only allowed. It was all meat, eggs and veggies with some limited starchy carbs.

Okay, that settles it, lol. I MUST cut out the fruit. I think I'm currently having at least 2 and sometimes three pieces of fruit...the whole fruit. Bananas even, lol.

Saturday I'll get all the stuff I need and that's what I'll do...meat, eggs and veggies. The adrenal supplements they have me on don't really seem to be doing much, although I suppose I should be a little more patient since I've just been sick and that probably hasn't helped.

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DONNA

ADDING YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS NOW.

I'LL JUST FORWARD EVIE'S ADDRESS IN CASE YOU DIDN'T GET IT.

I'M RECOVERING FROM 'CHILLS' AGAIN LAST NITE.

I'M SO TIRED OF THIS CRAP.

DON'T SEEM TO BE GETTING ANY ANSWERS.

THANKS DONNA.

JUDY

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DONNA

ADDING YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS NOW.

I'LL JUST FORWARD EVIE'S ADDRESS IN CASE YOU DIDN'T GET IT.

I'M RECOVERING FROM 'CHILLS' AGAIN LAST NITE.

I'M SO TIRED OF THIS CRAP.

DON'T SEEM TO BE GETTING ANY ANSWERS.

THANKS DONNA.

JUDY

Thanks Judy! So sorry you aren't feeling well. I have been having chills the last two weeks too and it certainly is crap, lol.

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Evie sighting!

Hi Evie, is that YOU!???!!! Hope you are doing better today!

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      how much gluten do I need to eat before blood tests?

      By catnapt · Posted

      thank you so much for your detailed and extremely helpful reply!! I can say with absolute certainty that the less gluten containing products I've eaten over the past several years, the better I've felt.   I wasn't avoiding gluten, I was avoiding refined grains (and most processed foods) as well as anything that made me feel bad when I ate it. It's the same reason I gave up dairy and eggs- they make me feel ill.  I do have a bit of a sugar addiction lol so a lot of times I wasn't sure if it was the refined grains that I was eating - or the sugar. So from time to time I might have a cookie or something but I've learned how to make wonderful cookies and golden brownies with BEANS!! and no refined sugar - I use date paste instead. Pizza made me so ill- but I thought it was probably the cheese. I gave up pizza and haven't missed it. the one time I tried a slice I felt so bad I knew I'd never touch it again. I stopped eating wheat pasta at least 3 yrs ago- just didn't feel well after eating it. I tried chick pea pasta and a few others and discovered I like the brown rice pasta. I still don't eat a lot of pasta but it's nice for a change when I want something easy. TBH over the years I've wondered sometimes if I might be gluten intolerant but really believed it was not possible for me to have celiac disease. NOW I need to know for sure- because I'm in the middle of a long process of trying to find out why I have a high parathyroid level (NOT the thyroid- but rather the 4 glands that control the calcium balance in your body) I have had a hard time getting my vit D level up, my serum calcium has run on the low side of normal for many years... and now I am losing calcium from my bones and excreting it in my urine (some sort of renal calcium leak) Also have a high ALP since 2014. And now rapidly worsening bone density.  I still do not have a firm diagnosis. Could be secondary HPT (but secondary to what? we need to know) It could be early primary HPT. I am spilling calcium in my urine but is that caused by the high parathyroid hormone or is it the reason my PTH is high>? there are multiple feedback loops for this condition.    so I will keep eating the bread and some wheat germ that does not seem to bother me too much (it hasn't got enough gluten to use just wheat germ)    but I'm curious- if you don't have a strong reaction to a product- like me and wheat germ- does that mean it's ok to eat or is it still causing harm even if you don't have any obvious symptoms? I guess what you are saying about silent celiac makes it likely that you can have no symptoms and still have the harm... but geez! you'd think they'd come up with a way to test for this that didn't require you to consume something that makes you sick! I worry about the complications I've been reading about- different kinds of cancers etc. also wondering- are there degrees of celiac disease?  is there any correlation between symptoms and the amnt of damage to your intestines? I also need a firm diagnosis because I have an identical twin sister ... so if I have celiac, she has it too- or at least the genetic make up for having it. I did have a VERY major stress to my body in 2014-2016 time frame .. lost 50lbs in a short period of time and had severe symptoms from acute protracted withdrawal off an SSRI drug (that I'd been given an unethically high dose of, by a dr who has since lost his license)  Going off the drug was a good thing and in many ways my health improved dramatically- just losing 50lbs was helpful but I also went  off almost a dozen different medications, totally changed my diet and have been doing pretty well except for the past 3-4 yrs when the symptoms related to the parathyroid issue cropped up. It is likely that I had low vit D for some time and that caused me a lot of symptoms. The endo now tells me that low vit D can be caused by celiac disease so I need to know for sure! thank you for all that great and useful information!!! 
    • trents
      how much gluten do I need to eat before blood tests?

      By trents · Posted

      Welcome, @catnapt! The most recent guidelines are the daily consumption of a minimum of 10g of gluten (about the amount found in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for a minimum of two weeks. But if possible stretching that out even more would enhance the chances of getting valid test results. These guidelines are for those who have been eating gluten free for a significant amount of time. It's called the "gluten challenge".  Yes, you can develop celiac disease at any stage of life. There is a genetic component but also a stress trigger that is needed to activate the celiac genes. About 30-40% of the general population possesses the genetic potential to develop celiac disease but only about 1% of the general population actually develop celiac disease. For most with the potential, the triggering stress event doesn't happen. It can be many things but often it is a viral infection. Having said that, it is also the case that many, many people who eventually are diagnosed with celiac disease probably experienced the actual onset years before. Many celiacs are of the "silent" type, meaning that symptoms are largely missing or very minor and get overlooked until damage to the small bowel lining becomes advanced or they develop iron deficiency anemia or some other medical problem associated with celiac disease. Many, many are never diagnosed or are diagnosed later in life because they did not experience classic symptoms. And many physicians are only looking for classic symptoms. We now know that there are over 200 symptoms/medical problems associated with celiac disease but many docs are only looking for things like boating, gas, diarrhea. I certainly understand your concerns about not wanting to damage your body by taking on a gluten challenge. Your other option is to totally commit to gluten free eating and see if your symptoms improve. It can take two years or more for complete healing of the small bowel lining once going gluten free but usually people experience significant improvement well before then. If their is significant improvement in your symptoms when going seriously gluten free, then you likely have your answer. You would either have celiac disease or NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity).
    • catnapt
      how much gluten do I need to eat before blood tests?

      By catnapt · Posted

      after several years of issues with a para-gland issue, my endo has decided it's a good idea for me to be tested for celiac disease. I am 70 yrs old and stunned to learn that you can get celiac this late in life. I have just gradually stopped eating most foods that contain gluten over the past several years- they just make me feel ill- although I attributed it to other things like bread spiking blood sugar- or to the things I ate *with* the bread or crackers etc   I went to a party in Nov and ate a LOT of a vegan roast made with vital wheat gluten- as well as stuffing, rolls and pie crust... and OMG I was so sick! the pain, the bloating, the gas, the nausea... I didn't think it would ever end (but it did) and I was ready to go the ER but it finally subsided.   I mentioned this to my endo and now she wants me to be tested for celiac after 2 weeks of being on gluten foods. She has kind of flip flopped on how much gluten I should eat, telling me that if the symptoms are severe I can stop. I am eating 2-3 thin slices of bread per day (or english muffins) and wow- it does make me feel awful. But not as bad as when I ate that massive amnt of vital wheat gluten. so I will continue on if I have to... but what bothers me is - if it IS celiac, it seems stupid for lack of a better word, to intentionally cause more damage to my body... but I am also worried, on the other hand, that this is not a long enough challenge to make the blood work results valid.   can you give me any insight into this please?   thank you
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