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Lister Rising Star

Ok this is slighty aquard to ask but what would you consider D, i just had a very very fast movement but it had no debre only nice looking and solid stools, is this what a regular movement is like?? i have always had either D like really bad D or really bad C never anything like this it felt like D but had perfect looking stools only. does this meen i am acually getting better? my stomic is feeling great today btw. ahhhh i feel like a almost new me just need this brain fog to go away


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Mucous can mean a lot of different things. People with IBS, travelers D, a stomach bug, Ulcerative COlitis, Crohns, and/or Microscopic Colitis. I was dx'd with UC in March of 05 when my GI told me the results of my colonoscopy. RIght after the c scope my doc said everything looked great and I probably had IBS. But then the biopsies came back with slight inflammation of the mucosal layer of the colon. He tagged me with UC. Tried some meds for UC, didnt work and thought they made me worse. THe only med that has made me better is Entocort EC which is a steroid that is highly effective amoung patients with Microscopic colitis and crohns disease. I moved and got a new GI. After looking at all my records for what seemed like an hour he said that he didnt think I had UC, but maybe microscopic colitis, IBS, an infection, or nothing at all.

I took Dr Fine's tests at Enterolab.com ( many people on a MC forum use it and have found great results) which showed I had a gluten and casien intolerance or sensativity; these are fecal tests. I took blood tests for Celiac disease and gluten intolerances but they were negative. THe test also showed I had the two genes needed to be present for celiac disease and at the time I was negative for colitis and crohsn colitis. So that sounds to me like I would need to go Gluten-free Casein-free. I ran these tests by my new GI and he threw them out the window. I like my GI but he is not very open to unconventional tests and treatments. SO I have been Gluten-free Casein-free for about a week now and it is too early to tell if it is helping or not.

Hope some of this helped you in some way.

Lister Rising Star

oh it looks like the mucus has gone away besides for the black specks of what i think is dead mucus my stools are back to a normal heatlhy looking color

ravenwoodglass Mentor
candida can cause gluten intolerancy thats why im looking into it

Your genetics cause gluten intolerance. If it is not in your genes you will not develop it.

Lister Rising Star

its not in my genes they already tested for it. But im still sensative to it for some reason. of course i guess the tests could have been wrong. and when i said it can cause gluten intolerancy i ment to say sensativity and it can cause it for all diffrent foods not just gluten

i just wanted to say i feel pretty darn good today :)

i think it may have to do with Enjoy Life bars- i ate one last night and withen 20 minutes my brain fog cleared up for like 2 hours it was really nice though i think the bars are going to be a accuired taste- eveything else from enjoy life is awsome but these bars are very uniqe

loraleena Contributor
Your genetics cause gluten intolerance. If it is not in your genes you will not develop it.

Lister is right. Candida can cause gluten intolerance, genes cause celiac. Candida can cause multiple food intolerances, as well as a multitude of other problems. I am looking into this also.

Lister Rising Star

only problem with candidia is that most regular doctors wont even think about it, let alone acknowlage it when you bring it up u usaly have to go to a fungi specialist i forgot what they are called.

as a update because i like to write how im doing, im doing pretty good, this morning was one of the first mornings i have had normal bms. but as the day progressed it turned into C but hey atleast i had some normal thats a start. My head is slightly cleared up with brain fog here and there but not nearly as strong or persistant. My stomic has subsided besides for little spasims here and there, as long as i keep myself fed every 3 hours or so i need to snack on something and then i wont get the growls or poping, i am having random sharp pains though but there not offten and dont last long at all just little jolts here and there. the mucus has almost completly disapeard besids for small amounts but my bms are no longer green so thats a definate plus, of course i guess even before going gluten free i had a 2 day period where everything seemed normal and then bam i started having blood so who knows this could just be a 1 day rest of the awfullness but im hoping its just finally improving and im getting better. Still no word from my doctor so i dont know my test results yet,*keeping fingers crossed please be parasites/candida*

thank's everyone for listinging to me constanly complain and all of the great advice and guhlia thanks alot for briinging up candida it really looks/sounds like me


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everyone done making fun of my spelling? :(

Sorry, I wasn't trying to make fun of you :P. I don't think anyone here cares if you can't spell, but if you ever feel like learning how to, you might as well :)

Okay, back to the topic...

judy05 Apprentice
its not in my genes they already tested for it. But im still sensative to it for some reason. of course i guess the tests could have been wrong. and when i said it can cause gluten intolerancy i ment to say sensativity and it can cause it for all diffrent foods not just gluten

i just wanted to say i feel pretty darn good today :)

i think it may have to do with Enjoy Life bars- i ate one last night and withen 20 minutes my brain fog cleared up for like 2 hours it was really nice though i think the bars are going to be a accuired taste- eveything else from enjoy life is awsome but these bars are very uniqe

Hi Lister, glad to hear you are feeling better. I think you need to "chill out", if you are gluten intolerant it takes a while to get all of the gluten out of your system. It took me several months but I had been sick for a long, long time. Are you keeping a food diary? It helps to look back when you react to something. It usually only takes a few minures to an hour before I react.

Lister Rising Star

yeah i only got sick for about half a month then they put me on the gluten free diet. Well i guess if i look back i had symptoms of stuff but never really botherd ot think about it, axid reflux everyday if i drank soda/ in the afternoon i had constant gut pain but i ingnored it

still no answer from the doctors office :( i want my results. plus i wanna bring up candida so that way if it is the cause we can take care of it so i can get better fully.

ravenwoodglass Mentor
Lister is right. Candida can cause gluten intolerance, genes cause celiac. Candida can cause multiple food intolerances, as well as a multitude of other problems. I am looking into this also.

Gluten intoelrance may allow candida to develop more readily but I stand by my statement. If gluten intolerance is not in your genetic soup you are not going to develop it. Standard blood tests do not show whether it is in your genes, they show whether you are throwing antibodies into your blood fighting the reaction. Gene testing is not something a doctor would order on a regular basis, for one thing the tests are quite expensive and for another most doctors feel that just because you have the gene (or genes) for gluten intolerance and celiac that does not mean you will develop it.

jerseyangel Proficient
Gluten intoelrance may allow candida to develop more readily but I stand by my statement. If gluten intolerance is not in your genetic soup you are not going to develop it. Standard blood tests do not show whether it is in your genes, they show whether you are throwing antibodies into your blood fighting the reaction. Gene testing is not something a doctor would order on a regular basis, for one thing the tests are quite expensive and for another most doctors feel that just because you have the gene (or genes) for gluten intolerance and celiac that does not mean you will develop it.

Yes, this is correct--you have to have the genes, a trigger, and gluten present in the diet to develop Celiac. Even the gene testing isn't perfect because not all of the genes connected to Celiac have been identified.

Lister Rising Star

yes i know for celiac, but im not celiac or intollerante im sensative. i was saying it can cause food sensativitys, not celiac or intollration, and i have had testing for genes it was not cheap thats for sure and nothing was found related to intolrancy or celiac genes

Lister Rising Star

someone posted in another post that i could have thyroid problems because i keep getting little paper cuts on my fingers and hands in random spots for no reason. My question is, im not loosing or gaining weight anymore, should i still have my thyroids tested?? doctor never even brang it up as beeing a posabilty for anything...

gah i got some gas problems today not flatulants just built up gas inside of me. It hurts to breath it makes sharp pains in my chest and i can keep feeling gas moving around in me wtf. o well atleast im not in acuall pain pain-edit ok i have flautlents as well and a desent amount of it nm i guess thats the problem lol. gah i think im healing finally seeing as i have been gas free since i got sick, but now my stomic pains have gone away and i got gas badly lol. i did not eat anything to cause such flatulance so maybe its just my body finally getting somewhat healthy, cant wait tell i can talk to my doctor maybe he will finally rule out ulceritive colitis and chrons since im doing so much better..

oh (getting personel) those black specks i keep questioning about and mentioning have gone away but instead they have been replaced by what looks like peanut skins, these make me a little more worried because i had these skin like things for about 4 days before i started bleeding about 3 1/2 weeks ago.... i hope its just something clearing out and not the start of a ulcer or something.... beh sorry im complaining again its becoming like second nature. It is because i have no one to talk to anymore- no one wants to listen that i know besides my mother ( i try to avoid talking to her because she is mentaly insane-littaraly) everyone else is sick of hering me talk since its been a month now of me always talking about it. I just want to talk to my doctor and tell him everything and see what he thinks but not even he wants to listen :( o well back to videogames if i can see strait)

One more question viteman b12- everyone keeps telling me to go get some to help with the brain fog, im already taking centrum(i know these vitemans suck) so i want to go out and get some good ones for b12 and what not, what brands do you recommend im going to go to GNC and get some and is it a problem if i take them today since i already took a centrum??

nm black specks still there i just did not notic them this morning yay so i got the specks and the peanut skin like things..... now im worried im going to start bleeding soon hopefully not but this is just like how it was before i started to bleed

ravenwoodglass Mentor
One more question viteman b12- everyone keeps telling me to go get some to help with the brain fog, im already taking centrum(i know these vitemans suck) so i want to go out and get some good ones for b12 and what not, what brands do you recommend im going to go to GNC and get some and is it a problem if i take them today since i already took a centrum??

You should be able to find the sublingual B12 at GNC with no problem, the folks at the counter can help you find the right one if needed. Just be sure it says Gluten Free somewhere on the box. There is no problem with taking this on top of the Centrum.

Lister Rising Star

right on gonna go get some in abit then, gah its amazing how much better i feel today besides for slight worry about the fact i think im going ot have blood in a couple of days but o well for now i feel so much better. once this brain fog is lifted maybe i can finally smoke bowls agian lol, i have felt so intoxicated without it its just been sitting there agening lol. i cant wait to feel completly normal again. I hope this is not just a relapse like i will feel good for a couple of days then like crap again- i hope things just keep going better o yeah o yeah.

penguin Community Regular
once this brain fog is lifted maybe i can finally smoke bowls agian lol, i have felt so intoxicated without it its just been sitting there agening lol.

Hang on a second - you're waiting for the brain fog to lift in order to chemically (and illegally, for that matter) induce brain fog? What part of that makes sense? :huh:

I have oft joked that I'm a real cheap date, while everyone else passes the bowl around, all I need is a loaf of wonder bread :rolleyes:

I hope you're telling your doctor about your smoking habits, since it can definitely effect whatever you've got going on internally.

Lister Rising Star

i only smoke maybe 1 bowl a day now. and he knows i smoke cigs, plus im on medical mj for my back pain so its not technacly illegal-------- i have been a chronic smoker of mj for 5 years now so its a hard habit to lift when i find life so boring without it. but as i said with this brain fog i cant bring myself to smoke any...

and mj does not cause any problems with your stomic, hell they give it to patients with chrons disease down here in oregon

and chelse what i ment by that is, if im hanging out with friends or i just want to have a uplifted time instead of depressed i can smoke and i will be in a happy and fun mood, but with this brain fog im just constantly depressed and feel tired and wierd all the time, weed usualy only lastes about 30 minutes for me not all day long like this

penguin Community Regular
i only smoke maybe 1 bowl a day now. and he knows i smoke cigs, plus im on medical mj for my back pain so its not technacly illegal-------- i have been a chronic smoker of mj for 5 years now so its a hard habit to lift when i find life so boring without it. but as i said with this brain fog i cant bring myself to smoke any...

and mj does not cause any problems with your stomic, hell they give it to patients with chrons disease down here in oregon

Not to start any kind of debate on mj, but, JFHC only one bowl a day?!

That and all of your cigarettes are going to give you lung cancer in about 5 minutes. Don't tell me pot doesn't cause lung cancer, because it does, it's just as carcinogenic as tobacco, and in some ways more so. My sister's dad has black spots on his lungs from mj, and he doesn't smoke tobacco.

MJ affects you systemically, until you are drug free, you won't have a clue what you're working with. So I guess your dr is the one who prescribed the daily mj for your back pain?

I also don't think that boredom is a medically sound reason...

Lister Rising Star

diffrent doctor and yes. and i know its bad for your lungs but im talking about stomic problems. and I do know what im working with because like i said above- well i edited so you probably did not have a chance to read it- it only lastes about 30 minutes in my system so after 30 my head is cleared-well from the mj atleast and i can tell whats going on with my body. I have not smoked any today and only a tiny bit yesterday. even though i am thinking maybe i need a lil in a bit to stop my little spasims im getting in my stomic right now. I do understand the health issues related to MJ or ciggarets and im planning on quiting both soon, well im definatly going to stop the cigs the second i figure out whats wrong with me and then im going to slowly ween myself away from the mj

and when i said only one a day thats acually really good for me- before i got sick i was up to atleast 6-10 bs a day and everyone in my house is just the same.. but they yes are not legaly aloud to use it like i am. and yes i know bordem is not medicaly sound reason to use it but hey they give me way more then i need for the back pain so meh if i have to pay for it i may as well use it when i feel like it

anyways i guess we both kinda went way off topic so back we go weeeeeeeeeeee

penguin Community Regular
and chelse what i ment by that is, if im hanging out with friends or i just want to have a uplifted time instead of depressed i can smoke and i will be in a happy and fun mood, but with this brain fog im just constantly depressed and feel tired and wierd all the time, weed usualy only lastes about 30 minutes for me not all day long like this

Not to still be the party pooper, but, your brain fog may very well be withdrawl from the pot. If you're a chronic user, your body can become dependant on it. It's not in the same way as say, cocaine, but it still causes depression, listlessness, etc.

THC is stored in your body for like, 6 weeks. It's stored in fatty organs, like the liver. You may only feel it for 30 minutes, but your body is feeling the effects of it much longer. I only *feel* the immediate effects of glutening for a couple of hours, but it's still in my body causing problems for much longer than that.

I wouldn't be saying this stuff if I didn't care, and if I hadn't seen other people in my life with this same problem. I'm not trying to attack you, I'm just trying to get you to see the big picture of what you may be doing to yourself.

Lister Rising Star

yeah i know but i have gone thru pot withdraw before and its definatly not like this. About 2 years ago i got arrested for smoking in a car, so i was put on probation and drug tested for 1 year so i managed to stay sober for a year besides for drinking on a weekend bases, and i will say yes i was depressed alot but my brain and my body where in no way this shape

also when i was saying 1 b a day now its not even 1 b its like 2 or three tokes and i always pass after that, because man does it make me feel really wierd- not even like high its like a new drug to me almost now

back onto topic though i guess-- sheesh not sure if its something i ate or my body finally clearing up some but man i have had to use the bathroom for bms 3 times already and i have only been awak for like 3 hours and these are not normal bms these are huge bms lol wow i overshare somtimes o well

now that im thinking about it-the thyroid thing- i did loose rapit weight over 100 pounds in a month/but that has stoped and now im staying at the same weight- but i do always have cold and i meen really cold feet never cold hands though but very cold feet- but i meen that could be alot of things meh whatever my doctor needs to hurry up and give me the results on that parasite test i did the test on friday

Lister Rising Star

alright YAY i retract all my comments about getting better once more........ my stomic is starting with the growls and poping noises again gah it burns then growls then burns then growls god WTF, i know i did not get glutend or cced because i made the food im eating myself with clean utenesals that i cleaned myself, and i have not had a shower yet so there is no peronel products on me that could have glutened me grrrrrrrr. why cant i never get better o well atleast i had a day and a half with good feelings... im gonna go walk down to gnc and get some b12 and see if that helps with the brain fog

Lister Rising Star

well i got the b12 though it does not seem to be helping. and to make everything worse im having cramping now like right below my chest and it keeps coming and going but it really hurts ;l gah i dont know what to do.... im not going to get my results today beause my doctor is not it either.... i just wanna figure this all out already

ravenwoodglass Mentor
well i got the b12 though it does not seem to be helping. and to make everything worse im having cramping now like right below my chest and it keeps coming and going but it really hurts ;l gah i dont know what to do.... im not going to get my results today beause my doctor is not it either.... i just wanna figure this all out already

The B12 is not like an asprin, it may take a few days to see a difference depending on how low your levels are. Have you tried a Rolaids for the pain? It may help.

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