Ugh Displaced Mind

[ravenwoodglass]

i really think if its a yeast problem they would have found it alreaedy

Would you know for sure they checked? What has the doctor said about your new symptoms?

[KrisT]

i really think if its a yeast problem they would have found it alreaedy

Lister, the medical community is not nearly as well educated as we like to think. The average MD would not think to look for yeast because they are never taught the damaging effects of yeast overgrowth. In fact most doctors will tell you that it is all a myth and that yeast cannot cause such symptoms. The doctors never found it in me while I complained for 10 years. It was friends who turned me on to the idea, and it was friends who helped me to get better. NOT ONE doctor ever made me feel better!! The doctors can say its BS, but I know what I did and I know what made me get my life back.

Try fighting the yeast. it won't hurt you to try it. It will make you feel pretty miserable as the yeast dies off, this is called a Herxheimer effect, "Herx" for short. But nothing that I am suggesting is going to physically damage you. If you don't try it you will never know.

BTW the white coating on your toungue is often refered o as "thrush" commonly found in newborns. Thrush is nothing more than YEAST! As any doctor will tell you.

[Lister]

so what specificaly do i need to cut out??

this is what i eat (and when i say this i meen everday of the week)

banana

3 eggs

potatoes(almost always fried- conola oil+ diced/sliced yukon gold potatoes)(1 for lunch and 1 for dinner)

chicken or pork

brocolie, cucumbers,carrots,romain lettece

sweet baby rays bbq sauce

apple juice

propel (grape usualy)

and i try to eat enjoy life cereal twice to three times a week because its the only thing i have found so far that will keep my bms regular

this is what i eat/drink everyday

oh and very very very rarely i have half a mountain dew

never alchohal (still have not drank since turning 21)

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i will give this a try because at this point i will do anything to be better(hence starting the aciphex)

[CarlaB]

Here is a thread that was on the forum about candida: Open Original Shared Link

You shouldn't eat starchy veggies (potato) or fruit (banana, fruit juice) because it feeds the yeast. I'd also avoid the bbq sauce because it has sugar. You might try something else to keep your BM's regular as cereal is usually pretty refined. Basically, eat meat, eggs and veggies.

Lots of garlic and onions are important. I actually take a garlic supplement. And lots of coconut oil. You can buy a yeast cleanse supplement at the health food store if you want a little extra push to get rid of it.

[Lister]

wow this is gonna suck lol, ok i will start in 2 days but until then im going to indulgae and splurge on some treats first

[CarlaB]

Trust me, I know, I did it for 6 months! Even now my doc has me eating just meat, eggs, and veggies -- I actually DREAM about coffee!!!! If I make it one more week on this horrible diet, I'm having a cup of coffee with a gluten-free donut (okay, maybe 1/4 of a donut) next Sunday!! I've been doing this for a month.

[KrisT]

Yes it pretty much sucks, but the rewards are worth it! Cut out your juice and stick to just plain old water. Get a refridgerated acidophilus and take it 3 times a day. This won't help your C so you will want to beef up on leafy green veggies as much as possible. They are much better for you than the potatos and it should help to keep you moving. Load up on garlic and onions with your meats, as Carla said. You should start to notice a difference within a week, but if you don't, you can always request some Diflucan from your doc to get you jumpstarted.

Best of luck!! : )

[Lister]

talked to a lady at work who was trying to battle a candida infection also.. she said that you have to be on that special diet for over a year is that true???

[KrisT]

talked to a lady at work who was trying to battle a candida infection also.. she said that you have to be on that special diet for over a year is that true???

The reality of it is different for each person. I was not very good about sticking to the diet after a few months. I would eat something sweet and follow it with a probiotic pill to try to help battle the yeast as I ate something with sugar. To be honest, that doesn't work!! I have been fighting my candida for well over a year and I have not completely won the battle and don't know that I ever will. I think once the immune system is comprimised that much it is a lifelong struggle to maintain a balance in your system. I know people who are religious about the diet and they continue to feel energetic and healthy every day. If they slip up at a party or something then they start to immediately feel the effects. but its not like that for everyone.

If I recall, you said you did not test positive for celiac, is that right? If that is the case, then you can take Fungal Defense followed by Primal Defense. If you do the fungal defense program every 6 months and live on the primal defense the rest of the time, it will really help keep your system in check. That's one way to do it, or you could just do a cleansing fast every 6 months. You'll be able to eat more and better as you start winning the fight, but you will always have to be aware of what your body is telling you.

[CarlaB]

There are also other products out there, Lister, that are gluten-free. The products Kris mentions are great and I used them both myself, but they are not gluten-free, as she mentioned. Go to a good health food store and talk to the people there, they will be a bigger help as you will be there in person.

I did the anti-candida diet for six months, then I could "cheat" once in a while and feel fine. But I had eliminated all carbs except for veggies for a solid six months with no cheating at all. Once or twice a week I would have a small amount of a carb - like rice or potato -- or I started feeling bad. I was very severe with it.

Don't underestimate the value of garlic (I take pills) and coconut oil!!

[Lister]

so i have not changed my diet yet but instead i did add garlic and onions to absoulty everything i eat... so maybe that will help some

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finally got the program to transfer pics from my girlfriends cellphone onto the comp so i can finally update my pics

[CarlaB]

I look forward to the new pics.

Take some probiotics, too. You need to rebuild the good bacteria.

[loraleena]

Lister, you should look into threelac. You can fight the candida without drastically changing your diet, though you need to stop refined sugars. Check it out online.

[Lister]

i would but its $65 for something to treat that i dont even know for sure if i have... couldnt that end up beeing a waist of money?

[CarlaB]

At least get the probiotics. Take them aggressively (maximum dosage, or more). I would get one that has more than one type of bacteria. They can help you more at the health food store.

Getting of sugar is critical, too.

[Lister]

anyone here have normal bowl habbits? the reason i am asking is im trying to figure out if im sick with something or if this is normal and that i am maving a improvement? or maybe a side effect from adding garlic to diet

but like 3 times now i keep getting shooting pain from my rectum, i rush to the bathroom and have a fairly large bm, its not all celiac disease up like usual instead its soft but still full form, but it comes out really fast with no pressure needed... is this diaraeha? or does it have to be watery to be diaiha, also it makes the water turn very cloudy (maybe yeast?) srry i know im disqgusteing just had to ask i have been wondering all day

[CarlaB]

It's entirely possible that it's the yeast, I couldn't know for sure.

[Lister]

i dont get it, how can u go to bed feeling one way and wake up feeling another way..

i woke up today and where if i had hips my hips would be on my left side is incrediably brused, not visualy brused but i cant even like lay a finger on my side without shooting pain.. so tender for no reason.. other news it seems i have a fairly bad cold.. feel like crap_

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not sure if this is because of eating so much garlic or not.. but man my stomich has been hurting all day like none stop burning pain from the center of my stomic, and off and on gurgle noisis.. its hurtn me

[Lister]

what can i take for stomic pains??? thats gluten free???? my stomich wont stop i cant take it anymore

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talked to a webmd today he says it sounds like leaky gut.. to bad i will never know

[ravenwoodglass]

what can i take for stomic pains??? thats gluten free???? my stomich wont stop i cant take it anymore

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talked to a webmd today he says it sounds like leaky gut.. to bad i will never know

Pepto Bismal the pink liquid is gluten-free. For me when I get gluten related stomach pain if helps a great deal. It will make your stool dark so don't get upset if take it and notice this effect, it is normal.

[Lister]

yeah i hate pepto, last time i took it i had black tarry stools for 4 days off only 1 dosage..

so i was told to take digestive enzyms (whatever those are) and do some breathing exersise and i will be healthy withen a month... yeah right

[CarlaB]

yeah i hate pepto, last time i took it i had black tarry stools for 4 days off only 1 dosage..

so i was told to take digestive enzyms (whatever those are) and do some breathing exersise and i will be healthy withen a month... yeah right

Very good advice, but I don't think it will fix all ... and in a month ... but it would help. Digestive enzymes help you to digest your food better. With your system being in bad shape, you may be lacking the enzymes for proper digestion. Breathing will help with your anxiety.

How's your sister doing?

[Lister]

no clue have not heard anything

[CarlaB]

no clue have not heard anything

Sounds like your family communicates about as well as mine ....

[jerseyangel]

Lister

Your kitty is so cute! Hope you're feeling better today