Jump to content

  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):

    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Monosodium Glutamate <--that's Msg, Right?

Sweetfudge

By Sweetfudge
in Coping with Celiac Disease

Recommended Posts

Sweetfudge Community Regular
Sweetfudge
Posted

Hey all - I'm kind of having a brain fog day...I think it's due to hypoglycemia though, and not CC...I hope. Difficult to tell as it is also that time of the month and I get ill for a few days. Anyway, couldn't bear to sort through the archives, so I just thought I'd refresh the question. Thanks :)

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


Shalia Apprentice
Shalia
Posted

MSG is gluten free. It isn't good for you, but it's gluten free. (Mostly. If made in the US. If made in Asia, it's usually a wheat source.) (Source, Triumph Dining book, I think. *grin*)

Edit: Your in Provo? Cool. I'm in Salt Lake. :) Hellp fellow Utahn!

happygirl Collaborator
happygirl
Posted

sweetfudge---sorry you are having a rough patch! i hope you get to feeling better.

and yes, msg is gluten free when made in the US. you are correct :)

Rusla Enthusiast
Rusla
Posted

I have read conflicting stuff to do with msg. Outside the fact I have a severe allergy to it and it makes me killer sick. I have read that sometimes it is gluten-free and sometimes not. So, why take the chance not only that, but my personal feelings are that the darn stuff should be made illegal.

Shalia Apprentice
Shalia
Posted
I have read conflicting stuff to do with msg. Outside the fact I have a severe allergy to it and it makes me killer sick. I have read that sometimes it is gluten-free and sometimes not. So, why take the chance not only that, but my personal feelings are that the darn stuff should be made illegal.

I've never read conflicting info on the gluten aspect, but I wholeheartedly agree with you on the illegal aspect.

I've been losing a lot more weight ever since I decided no more MSG. It's amazing.

Evil stuff that stuff is.

MistressIsis Apprentice
MistressIsis
Posted

I've heard the conflicting info too. In fact, the local chinese food place near work that I always go to brought the jar out to me & it said wheat starch on it so I just ask for whatever I want without it & tell then I'm allergic. It could be something else in it but I notice if I forget I get mild symptoms.

I've been thinking about the labeling issue. Yes they now have to label things correctly on the wheat side but I wonder how long it takes to get the older items off the shelves & the new correctly labeled items on. I gotta believe most restaurants & stores are gonna sell the unlabled stuff before bringing out the new...

Kody Rookie
Kody
Posted
I've never read conflicting info on the gluten aspect, but I wholeheartedly agree with you on the illegal aspect.

I've been losing a lot more weight ever since I decided no more MSG. It's amazing.

Evil stuff that stuff is.

I'm having a brain foggy day too -- can anyone tell me what MSG is? like what foods are they in and why is it so bad?

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


pamelaD Apprentice
pamelaD
Posted
I'm having a brain foggy day too -- can anyone tell me what MSG is? like what foods are they in and why is it so bad?

MSG is monosodium glutamate, which is the sodium salt of glutamic acid (not gluten!). It is used as a flavor enhancer all over the world in many cuisines.

An analogy would be what we call 'salt', sodium chloride, which is the sodium salt of hydrochloric acid and also used as a flavor enchancer.

The difference is that sodium chloride ('salt') is in-organic. Glutamic acid is organic (meaning made up of carbon, hrydrogen, oxygen). Some people claim to be sensitive and/or allergic to it in a very similar way to other who are sensitive to other organic food additives like sulfites (this is just an analogy- msg and sulfites are not chemically related).

Hope this helps....

Pam

(chemist)

Kody Rookie
Kody
Posted
MSG is monosodium glutamate, which is the sodium salt of glutamic acid (not gluten!). It is used as a flavor enhancer all over the world in many cuisines.

An analogy would be what we call 'salt', sodium chloride, which is the sodium salt of hydrochloric acid and also used as a flavor enchancer.

The difference is that sodium chloride ('salt') is in-organic. Glutamic acid is organic (meaning made up of carbon, hrydrogen, oxygen). Some people claim to be sensitive and/or allergic to it in a very similar way to other who are sensitive to other organic food additives like sulfites (this is just an analogy- msg and sulfites are not chemically related).

Hope this helps....

Pam

(chemist)

geez, how do you find out if you're allergic to it? Any testing available anywhere? I could do trial and error, but how would i do that? read all my food labels for MSG?

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):



    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):



  • Recent Activity

    1. knitty kitty
      - knitty kitty replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

      In the study linked above, the little girl switched to a gluten free diet and gained enough weight that that fat pad was replenished and surgery was not needed. Here's the full article link... Superior Mesenteric Artery Syndrome in a 6-Year-Old Girl with Final Diagnosis of Celiac Disease https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6476019/
    2. knitty kitty
      - knitty kitty replied to Jordan Carlson's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      1

      Fruits & Veggies

      Hello, @Jordan Carlson, So glad you're feeling better. Tecta is a proton pump inhibitor. PPI's also interfere with the production of the intrinsic factor needed to absorb Vitamin B12. Increasing the amount of B12 you supplement has helped overcome the lack of intrinsic factor needed to absorb B12. Proton pump inhibitors also reduce the...
    3. knitty kitty
      - knitty kitty replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

      @pothosqueen, Welcome to the tribe! You'll want to get checked for nutritional deficiencies and start on supplementation of B vitamins, especially Thiamine Vitamin B 1. There's some scientific evidence that the fat pad that buffers the aorta which disappears in SMA is caused by deficiency in Thiamine. In Thiamine deficiency, the body...
    4. Scott Adams
      0

      Inmate with Celiac Disease Wins $630,000 After Jail Denies Gluten-Free Food

    5. trents
      - trents replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

      Wow! You're pretty young to have a diagnosis of SMA syndrome. But youth also has its advantages when it comes to healing, without a doubt. You might be surprised to find out how your health improves and how much better you feel once you eliminate gluten from your diet. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder that, when gluten is consumed, triggers an...
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,019
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748
    Nancy Adams
    Newest Member
    Nancy Adams
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):

  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      Positive biopsy

      By knitty kitty · Posted

      In the study linked above, the little girl switched to a gluten free diet and gained enough weight that that fat pad was replenished and surgery was not needed.   Here's the full article link... Superior Mesenteric Artery Syndrome in a 6-Year-Old Girl with Final Diagnosis of Celiac Disease https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6476019/
    • knitty kitty
      Fruits & Veggies

      By knitty kitty · Posted

      Hello, @Jordan Carlson, So glad you're feeling better.   Tecta is a proton pump inhibitor.  PPI's also interfere with the production of the intrinsic factor needed to absorb Vitamin B12.  Increasing the amount of B12 you supplement has helped overcome the lack of intrinsic factor needed to absorb B12. Proton pump inhibitors also reduce the production of digestive juices (stomach acids).  This results in foods not being digested thoroughly.  If foods are not digested sufficiently, the vitamins and other nutrients aren't released from the food, and the body cannot absorb them.  This sets up a vicious cycle. Acid reflux and Gerd are actually symptoms of producing too little stomach acid.  Insufficient stomach acid production is seen with Thiamine and Niacin deficiencies.  PPI's like Tecta also block the transporters that pull Thiamine into cells, preventing absorption of thiamine.  Other symptoms of Thiamine deficiency are difficulty swallowing, gagging, problems with food texture, dysphagia. Other symptoms of Thiamine deficiency are symptoms of ADHD and anxiety.  Vyvanse also blocks thiamine transporters contributing further to Thiamine deficiency.  Pristiq has been shown to work better if thiamine is supplemented at the same time because thiamine is needed to make serotonin.  Doctors don't recognize anxiety and depression and adult onset ADHD as early symptoms of Thiamine deficiency. Stomach acid is needed to digest Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) in fruits and vegetables.  Ascorbic acid left undigested can cause intestinal upsets, anxiety, and heart palpitations.   Yes, a child can be born with nutritional deficiencies if the parents were deficient.  Parents who are thiamine deficient have offspring with fewer thiamine transporters on cell surfaces, making thiamine deficiency easier to develop in the children.  A person can struggle along for years with subclinical vitamin deficiencies.  Been here, done this.  Please consider supplementing with Thiamine in the form TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) which helps immensely with dysphagia and neurological symptoms like anxiety, depression, and ADHD symptoms.  Benfotiamine helps with improving intestinal health.  A B Complex and NeuroMag (a magnesium supplement), and Vitamin D are needed also.
    • knitty kitty
      Positive biopsy

      By knitty kitty · Posted

      @pothosqueen, Welcome to the tribe! You'll want to get checked for nutritional deficiencies and start on supplementation of B vitamins, especially Thiamine Vitamin B 1.   There's some scientific evidence that the fat pad that buffers the aorta which disappears in SMA is caused by deficiency in Thiamine.   In Thiamine deficiency, the body burns its stored fat as a source of fuel.  That fat pad between the aorta and digestive system gets used as fuel, too. Ask for an Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity test to look for thiamine deficiency.  Correction of thiamine deficiency can help restore that fat pad.   Best wishes for your recovery!   Interesting Reading: Superior Mesenteric Artery Syndrome in a 6-Year-Old Girl with Final Diagnosis of Celiac Disease https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31089433/#:~:text=Affiliations,tissue and results in SMAS.  
    • trents
      Positive biopsy

      By trents · Posted

      Wow! You're pretty young to have a diagnosis of SMA syndrome. But youth also has its advantages when it comes to healing, without a doubt. You might be surprised to find out how your health improves and how much better you feel once you eliminate gluten from your diet. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder that, when gluten is consumed, triggers an attack on the villous lining of the small bowel. This is the section of the intestines where all our nutrition is absorbed. It is made up of billions of tiny finger-like projections that create a tremendous surface area for absorbing nutrients. For the person with celiac disease, unchecked gluten consumption generates inflammation that wears down these fingers and, over time, greatly reduces the nutrient absorbing efficiency of the small bowel lining. This can generate a whole host of other nutrient deficiency related medical problems. We also now know that the autoimmune reaction to gluten is not necessarily limited to the lining of the small bowel such that celiac disease can damage other body systems and organs such as the liver and the joints and cause neurological problems.  It can take around two years for the villous lining to completely heal but most people start feeling better well before then. It's also important to realize that celiac disease can cause intolerance to some other foods whose protein structures are similar to gluten. Chief among them are dairy and oats but also eggs, corn and soy. Just keep that in mind.
    • pothosqueen
      Positive biopsy

      By pothosqueen · Posted

      26F!
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.