Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Gluten Ataxia?


Keely

Recommended Posts

Keely Newbie

This is confusing.

My 4 year old has severe progressive ataxia (poor walking), and dysarthria (no speech - he signs and is very bright). He has been diagnosed with a mitochondrial disorder and this was what his problems were blamed on.

This spring he had a positive AGA, and went on to get an endoscopy. The endoscopy showed a helicobactor infection, as well as leukocytic infiltrates in the stomach and duodenum, but the villi were fine and celiacs was ruled out for the time being.

We returned for our 6 month appointment and they had more results for us.

Brandon has a positive HLA test, as well as positive TTG, EMA, and AGA.

After doing alot of reading my understanding is gluten ataxia (ataxia and dysarthria mediated by antigluten antibodies attacking the nerves and cerebellum) is a diagnosis that does not require gut involvement.

Does anyone know anything about this diagnosis?

Our GI insists without gut involvement there is no celiacs, however the literature I have found says otherwise.

We are approaching our pediatrician and neurologist about this in the next few days, but im curious if anyone here has any experience.

Thanks in advance,

Keely

www.caringbridge.org/visit/brandonandtyler


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



chrissy Collaborator

i think that both of these can be caused by celiac------which i would say he definitely has if he had a positive TTG and EMA. your son is pretty young still so the gut symptoms may just not be obvious---but if he has a positive TTG, then he has intestinal damage somewhere. those scopes can only go about 6 feet into the small intestine, which means that there is about 16 more feet that they can't test----and the damage can be patchy, so it can be missed by a biopsy.

hopefully, your son's problems are more celiac than mitochondrial.

Guest nini

the biopsies can easily miss damage, and with those specific tests being positive, he does have celiac. and yes it can affect the neurological system instead of the gut, your gi dr. is wrong.

celiacgirls Apprentice

Whatever they call it, it seems your son's problems are at least partly due to gluten. Some doctors won't diagnose celiac without the positive biopsy. Some doctors recognize gluten intolerance as the same thing without the gut damage. Either way, the strict gluten free diet is the answer.

Sophiekins Rookie

It is often the case with neurological celiac disease that the gut is not involved. Print this article: Open Original Shared Link and take it with you to your pediatrician, neurologist and GI. This is written by THE expert on NCD (he discovered gluten ataxia). If you need more help, try posting something on this site: Open Original Shared Link I am pretty sure that there is a mom on there who has had similar experiences, whose son was recently diagnosed with NCD, and if she's not looking, the rest of them are seriously expert and can point you in the right direction from here.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Sarah Grace's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      21

      Headaches / Migraines and Hypoglycaemia

    2. - Jmartes71 posted a topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      0

      Related issues

    3. - trents replied to Sarah Grace's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      21

      Headaches / Migraines and Hypoglycaemia

    4. - Scott Adams replied to jessicafreya's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      1

      Tamale ingredients

    5. - Wheatwacked replied to Roses8721's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      6

      GI DX celiac despite neg serology and no biopsy


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,144
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Jenny0384
    Newest Member
    Jenny0384
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Sarah Grace,  Thank you for the update!  It's so good to hear from you!  I'm glad Thiamine, B Complex and magnesium have helped you.  Yes, it's important to take all three together.    I had to quit eating cheese and nuts a long time ago because they triggered migraines in me, too.  They are high in tyrosine, an amino acid, found also in fermented foods like sauerkraut and red wine.   I found taking Tryptophan very helpful with migraines.  Tryptophan is a precursor of serotonin and people with migraines are often low in serotonin.  (Don't take tryptophan if you're taking an SSRI.)     This recent study shows tryptophan really helps. The association between dietary tryptophan intake and migraine https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31254181/   For immediate respite from a migraine, try smiling REALLY BIG, mouth closed, tongue pressed against roof of mouth, and crinkle up your eyes like you just heard or saw the funniest thing...  This causes an endorphin release in the brain.  Usually it's the funny event, then the endorphin release and then the smile.  Smiling first makes the endorphin center think it missed something and it catches up quickly by releasing endorphins after the big crinkle eyed smile.  Must make crinkly eyes with smile or it won't work.  If you do this too frequently within a short time frame (several hours), you can deplete your endorphins, but you'll make more in a couple of hours, so no worries. Get your thyroid checked, too.  Migraines are also seen in low thyroid function (Hashimoto's or hypothyroidism).  Celiac and thyroid problems go hand in hand.   Vitamin D helps, too.  Low Vitamin D is found in migraine.   I'm so glad you're doing better.  
    • Jmartes71
      Its been a complete nightmare dealing with all these health issues one thing after another and being told many different things.I am looking for a new primary care physician considering when I told my past doctor of 25 years I was diagnosed before any foods eliminated from my diet and now this year at age 54 no longer able to push considering Im always exhausted, leg pain , stomach,skin and eye issues,high blood pressure to name a few all worsen because I was a  school bus driver and few years until my immune system went to hell and was fired because of it.Im still struggling now, Im sibo positive and been told im not celiac and that I am.I have a hernia and dealing with menopause. Its exhausting and is causing depression because of non medical help. Today I saw another gastrointestinalist and he said everything im feeling doesn't add up to celiac disease since my ITg levels are normal so celiac disease is under control and it's something else. I for got I had Barrett's esophagus diagnosed in 2007 because recent doctors down played it just like my celiac disease. Im currently looking for a pcp in my area because it is affecting me personally and professionally. Im told since celiac looks under control it's IBS and I need to see a therapist to control it. Gastrointestinalist around here think only food consumption and if ITG looks normal its bit celiac disease it's something else. Is this right? This is what im being told. I want medical help but told its IBS.Im feel lost by " medical team "
    • trents
      My migraines generally have their onset during the early morning hours as well. Presently, I am under siege with them, having headaches all but two days so far this month. I have looked at all the things reported to be common triggers (foods, sleep patterns, weather patterns, stress, etc.). Every time I think I start to see a pattern it proves not to pan out in the long run. I'm not sure it's any one thing but may, instead, be a combination of things that coalesce at certain times. It's very frustrating. The medication (sumatriptan or "Imatrix") is effective and is the only thing that will quell the pain. NSAIDs, Tylenol, even hydrocodone doesn't touch it. But they only give you 9 does of sumatriptan a month. And it doesn't help that medical science doesn't really know what causes migraines. They know some things about it but the root cause is still a mystery.
    • Scott Adams
      These are labeled gluten-free: https://www.amazon.com/Corn-Husks-Tamales-Authentic-Flavorful/dp/B01MDSHUTM/
    • Wheatwacked
      Just a gluten free diet is not enough.  Now you have to identify and replenish your malnutrition.  Celiac disease is co-morbid with malabsorption syndrome.  Low vitamin D, Low Thiamine caused Gastointeston Beriberi, low choline, low iodine are common the general population, and in newly diagnosed Celiacs in the western culture its is more likely.  It takes time to heal and you need to focus on vitamins and minerals.  Gluten free foods are not fortified like regular processed foods.  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.