Soy?

[alyssasgabby]

Hi everyone!

Just a quick question. I have noted that Celiac's should avoid Soy Sauce. In my attempt to be completely gluten free, I am having trouble determining which products to avoid. Do I need to stay away from anything containing soy? Basically, right now I am not eating anything containing Wheat, but are there other ingredients I should be looking for on labels.

I am surviving on Rice and Black Beans but trying to add eggs and some meats back in. I really appreciate the info posted on Dairy in other posts, I didn't realize I needed to stop my dairy intake initially and will begin to do so tomorrow!! What can I use in my morning coffee? I usually use half & half and obviously can't do that now!

Thanks for your help!

[super-sally888]

Hi,

Soy sauce is usually out because it is made with wheat (as well as soy). There are some wheat free brands available - maybe some of the others here can recommend (none available in my part of the world).

Soy is not a problem, unless you are also sensitive to it. However, the health benefits of soy are currently under review so don't go overboard on it (particularly the texturised soy protein - fake meats etc. (check out the soy page on Open Original Shared Link if you are interested)), but can use soy milk in place of regular dairy in your coffee.

You may find that dairy doesn't bother you. Try taking it out for a while and see if it makes a difference. If you are not sure, try adding it back in after eliminating it for a while and see if you have any symptoms/change when you add it back in. Not all are bothered by or sensitive to dairy. Don't eliminate things unless you know / can prove you need to, so you diet is as non-restrictive as you can make it.

Best Wishes

Sally

[Ursa Major]

Even though soy in general isn't as healthy or safe as most people think, the reason to avoid soy sauce is that most of the time, wheat is the first ingredient! There are wheat-free soy sauces out there, one of them being Tamari soy sauce by Life Soy. I think I read that another one is Kikoman (or something like that).

You might want to try goats milk in your coffee. Or almond milk (haven't tried that, as I am intolerant to coffee, but it might be okay).

[super-sally888]

Hi,

Some more stuff on soy, I got from various sites. Use of soy products in moderation should be fine, as long as you are not sensitive to it. (Moderators - is it ok to post this sort of info? Sorry if it's not - Please just delete the post).

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Soy isoflavones (plant estrogens), should be limited to the 35-45 mg per day beyond which they have been shown to cause thyroid and reproductive system derailment in healthy adults. Soy isoflavones are found in all soy products.

Some examples of the amounts of isoflavones found in single serves of various products.

Food Svg Size (g) Serve Protein Isoflavone

Size g/100g mg/svg

Mature soybeans, uncooked 93 1/2 cup 37 175.6

Roasted soybeans 86 1/2 cup 35.2 167.0

Soy flour 21 1/4 cup 37.8 43.8

Textured soy protein, dry 30 1/4 cup 18.0 27.8

Green soybeans,uncooked 128 1/2 cup 16.6 70.1

Soy milk 228 1 cup 4.4 20.0

Tempeh, uncooked 114 4 oz 17.0 60.5

Tofu, uncooked 114 4 oz 15.8 38.3

Soy isolate, dry 28 1 oz 92.0 56.5

Soy concentrate, dry 28 1 oz 63.6 12.4

[Abug]

Silk brand (white wave) soy milk claims to make all gluten-free products as of the last time I looked them up. Kraft has stated earlier that they're thinking of making a gluten-free line, but I haven't seen anything become of it yet, though you can watch for it. On a side note, if anyone else has heard any more of this, let me know. Since I'm one of those who can't have dairy, I really know only of the substitutes in that area, but I seem to be doing fine on it, so I don't understand the health risk. I'm open minded though, so you can be assured that I'll take any valid study under due consideration once its results are presented. I'd surely be dead by now if I weren't willing to make dietary sacrifices for the sake of my health What makes me nervous is if I have to eliminate soy, I'm dangerously running out of options due to a number of food allergies coupled with Celiac Disease and Chronic Hypoglycemia. I don't wanna be stuck with rice and black beans like alyssasgabby That doesn't have adequate nutrition to live on anyway. You should look for more fruits and veggies too. I hope someone posts a list of things to look for on labels for you shortly. I've been gluten-free for so long that I don't have a list any more, and I couldn't list anything worth while if you asked me to. It's all in my head. I look at the ingredients, and I automatically know if I can eat it or not. It's kind of like trying to teach someone how to drive a clutch. I have no idea how! I tried to teach my sister to drive stick shift, and I kept catching myself saying things like, "Just .. GO! Just ------ go forward!" So anyway, I'll leave that up to someone else Best of luck! The hardest part is the first couple weeks! As weeks turn into months, and months turn into years, it all becomes natural! I decided to join this forum after so long because I was afraid I might go astray if I didn't keep in contact with people like me.

You might also notice after a while that I have a bad habit of rambling

And these little faces are so cute, lol

[flowergirl]

I wouldn't have any soy, dairy or coffee for a few months if I were you. At least until there are some healing... Coffee is a gut irritant and you are slowing your progress by drinking it.

[darlindeb25]

Soy did not bother me for almost 2 yrs after going gluten free, then I became intolerant of it. I too believe soy is not good for any of us. You should be wheat, rye, and barley free, not just wheat. Do not use anything with barley malt in it, or even if it simply says malt, you should avoid.

[RiceGuy]

So far I haven't had any problems with soy. I eat tofu for the proteins and fats, and it seems to help me health-wise. I think the arguments about soy will be ongoing for some time yet. Both sides do make some good points though.

Anyway, Open Original Shared Link makes some wheat-free tamari. I don't use anything like that so I can't make any comments on the taste.

[hathor]

Here are some safe and forbidden lists --

https://www.celiac.com/st_main.html?p_catid...-57107623365.5f

If you want to avoid dairy and soy, you might check out almond milk. I haven't tried in in coffee (my system can't take the stuff anymore), but I think it is pretty tasty.

[Abug]

I also have no trouble with soy. I regularly use soy milk in my coffee and in cooking, and my mother makes soy milk out of soy beans. It's really good when she forgets to put salt in it.

[NoGluGirl]

Hi everyone!

Just a quick question. I have noted that Celiac's should avoid Soy Sauce. In my attempt to be completely gluten free, I am having trouble determining which products to avoid. Do I need to stay away from anything containing soy? Basically, right now I am not eating anything containing Wheat, but are there other ingredients I should be looking for on labels.

I am surviving on Rice and Black Beans but trying to add eggs and some meats back in. I really appreciate the info posted on Dairy in other posts, I didn't realize I needed to stop my dairy intake initially and will begin to do so tomorrow!! What can I use in my morning coffee? I usually use half & half and obviously can't do that now!

Thanks for your help!

Dear alyssasgabby,

Wal-Mart's Great Value Soy Sauce is Gluten Free! It is also less expensive than the organic kinds. As far as your coffee goes, many of the Coffee Mates liquid creamers are gluten free!

If they contain gluten, it will be clearly listed! You do not have to starve on this diet! There are tons of things you can have! Just to name a few:

Dinty Moore Beef Stew

Hormel Chili

Hormel Turkey Spam (oven roasted or smoked)

Buddig Deli Style Lunchmeats

Hormel Vienna Sausages

Hormel Bacon

Jimmy Dean Fresh Taste Fast Sausage

Johnsonville Original Bratwurst

Yoplait Yogurt (Whips are great, and all are clearly labeled, so if gluten is present, it will be listed)

Kraft Shredded Cheeses

Kraft Jell-O Pudding and Gelatin Snacks (Kraft Clearly labels all products, so gluten is listed if present)

Kraft Philadelphia Cream Cheese (low-fat, fat-free, original)

Heinz Ketchup

Idahoan Instant Potatoes

Daisy Sour Cream (fat-free, low-fat, and original)

Tostitos

Fritos

Cheetos

Lay's Original Potato Chips

Classico Red and White Sauces (all) my favorite is the Sweet Tomato Basil

Pace Picante Sauce

Velveeta Cheese

Kraft American Singles (Original)

Great Value Soy Milk

Pompeiian Cold Pressed Extra Virgin Olive Oil

PAM Non-Stick Cooking Sprays (all except PAM for Baking, it contains flour)

Smart Balance Light and Original

Kraft Mayonnaise (reg. and fat-free)

Kraft Miracle Whip (reg. and Fat-free)

Kraft Salad Dressings (Fat-free French and Thousand Island Fat Free I recommend)

Cool Whip

Dora The Explorer Cinnamon Stars Cereal

Cocoa Pebbles

Fruity Pebbles

Jif Peanut Butter (all varieties including Smooth Sensations)

Welch's Grape Jelly

ButterFinger Candy Bars

3 Musketeers Bars

Snickers Bars

Reese's Peanut Butter Cups

Jelly Belly Jelly Beans (all except cinnamon toast flavor)

Act II Microwave Popcorn

Cool Ranch Doritos (Not Nacho Cheese-they have gluten)

Kraft Caramels

Skittles

Coca-Cola Classic, Vanilla, Diet Coke, Diet Vanilla (caffeine free ones are okay too!)

Diet Rite

Fruit 2-0 flavored waters

Nestle Pure Life flavored waters

All Folgers Coffees (includes Instant and Cappuccinos)

Wal-Mart's Great Value canned fruits and vegetables

Dole Fruit Singles

Del Monte Canned Fruits and Vegetables

Heinz Sweet Pickle Relish

Durkee ground cinnamon

Durkee ground ginger

Durkee ground cayenne pepper

Durkee ground cloves

Durkee all liquid extracts and flavorings and food colorings

Emeril's Essence Asian, Italian, and Southwest Seasonings

Ore-Ida Tater Tots

Ore-Ida French Fries

Ore-Ida Quick Fries (The ones in the microwave) They are good and fast!

To use around the house:

Dawn Dish Soap (Includes Power Disolver)

Cascade

All Laundry Detergent

Murphy's Oil Soap

Spray'n Wash Spot Remover

Some Beauty Products and Hygiene items:

Crest Whitening Expressions Toothpastes(all)

Colgate Toothpastes (all)

Johnson & Johnson Baby Oil

Vasoline Petroleum Jelly

Crest WhiteStrips

Colgate Simply White

Glide Floss

Revlon LipGlides (I am wearing Sparkling Sangria in my avatar)

Maybelline (Read labels: Any gluten containing ingredients will be clearly labeled)

Wet'n Wild Cosmetics (all except one of the mascaras)

CoverGirl (Clearly labels any gluten containing ingredients)

Dove Shampoos, Hair Styling Aids, and Conditioners (company clearly labels gluten if present)

Suave lotions, shampoos, and conditioners (Company clearly labels gluten if present)

Anywho, I hope this helps you out!

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

[alyssasgabby]

You are all so AWESOME and Inspiring! I have slowly added some of the foods to my diet, including Veggies and Fruit, some Fritos for snacks, Snickers Bars for my chocolate cravings and even Hormel Black Label Bacon (on my Grocery Store's checklist of "Safe" foods).

I am feeling pretty good, though I just passed a Kidney Stone (OUCH!!). D has almost completely stopped, but I still have Back pain. I saw some other posts on that, and will discuss with my MD on Wednesday.

I want to thank all of you for all of your help! I printed out noglugirl's list and am keeping it with me at all times.

Thanks Again!!

Dear alyssasgabby,

Wal-Mart's Great Value Soy Sauce is Gluten Free! It is also less expensive than the organic kinds. As far as your coffee goes, many of the Coffee Mates liquid creamers are gluten free!

If they contain gluten, it will be clearly listed! You do not have to starve on this diet! There are tons of things you can have! Just to name a few:

Dinty Moore Beef Stew

Hormel Chili

Hormel Turkey Spam (oven roasted or smoked)

Buddig Deli Style Lunchmeats

Hormel Vienna Sausages

Hormel Bacon

Jimmy Dean Fresh Taste Fast Sausage

Johnsonville Original Bratwurst

Yoplait Yogurt (Whips are great, and all are clearly labeled, so if gluten is present, it will be listed)

Kraft Shredded Cheeses

Kraft Jell-O Pudding and Gelatin Snacks (Kraft Clearly labels all products, so gluten is listed if present)

Kraft Philadelphia Cream Cheese (low-fat, fat-free, original)

Heinz Ketchup

Idahoan Instant Potatoes

Daisy Sour Cream (fat-free, low-fat, and original)

Tostitos

Fritos

Cheetos

Lay's Original Potato Chips

Classico Red and White Sauces (all) my favorite is the Sweet Tomato Basil

Pace Picante Sauce

Velveeta Cheese

Kraft American Singles (Original)

Great Value Soy Milk

Pompeiian Cold Pressed Extra Virgin Olive Oil

PAM Non-Stick Cooking Sprays (all except PAM for Baking, it contains flour)

Smart Balance Light and Original

Kraft Mayonnaise (reg. and fat-free)

Kraft Miracle Whip (reg. and Fat-free)

Kraft Salad Dressings (Fat-free French and Thousand Island Fat Free I recommend)

Cool Whip

Dora The Explorer Cinnamon Stars Cereal

Cocoa Pebbles

Fruity Pebbles

Jif Peanut Butter (all varieties including Smooth Sensations)

Welch's Grape Jelly

ButterFinger Candy Bars

3 Musketeers Bars

Snickers Bars

Reese's Peanut Butter Cups

Jelly Belly Jelly Beans (all except cinnamon toast flavor)

Act II Microwave Popcorn

Cool Ranch Doritos (Not Nacho Cheese-they have gluten)

Kraft Caramels

Skittles

Coca-Cola Classic, Vanilla, Diet Coke, Diet Vanilla (caffeine free ones are okay too!)

Diet Rite

Fruit 2-0 flavored waters

Nestle Pure Life flavored waters

All Folgers Coffees (includes Instant and Cappuccinos)

Wal-Mart's Great Value canned fruits and vegetables

Dole Fruit Singles

Del Monte Canned Fruits and Vegetables

Heinz Sweet Pickle Relish

Durkee ground cinnamon

Durkee ground ginger

Durkee ground cayenne pepper

Durkee ground cloves

Durkee all liquid extracts and flavorings and food colorings

Emeril's Essence Asian, Italian, and Southwest Seasonings

Ore-Ida Tater Tots

Ore-Ida French Fries

Ore-Ida Quick Fries (The ones in the microwave) They are good and fast!

To use around the house:

Dawn Dish Soap (Includes Power Disolver)

Cascade

All Laundry Detergent

Murphy's Oil Soap

Spray'n Wash Spot Remover

Some Beauty Products and Hygiene items:

Crest Whitening Expressions Toothpastes(all)

Colgate Toothpastes (all)

Johnson & Johnson Baby Oil

Vasoline Petroleum Jelly

Crest WhiteStrips

Colgate Simply White

Glide Floss

Revlon LipGlides (I am wearing Sparkling Sangria in my avatar)

Maybelline (Read labels: Any gluten containing ingredients will be clearly labeled)

Wet'n Wild Cosmetics (all except one of the mascaras)

CoverGirl (Clearly labels any gluten containing ingredients)

Dove Shampoos, Hair Styling Aids, and Conditioners (company clearly labels gluten if present)

Suave lotions, shampoos, and conditioners (Company clearly labels gluten if present)

Anywho, I hope this helps you out!

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

[UNCHeel]

I've used La Choy Soy Sauce because I read it was gluten free and nothing ont he ingredient list stood out as being an issue. Anyone know if that's still true?